The MONEY people SPEND on MMOs...

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#1 FelipeInside
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http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/12/15/mmo-infographic/

WOW... and the majority are F2P Models so (apart from WoW), that's the new business plans they need to follow.

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#2 JigglyWiggly_
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who needs to be good at a game when you can pay
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doesn't include korea and china? Shamefur dispray :P

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#4 Priapus101
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TIL League of Legends was a MMO. Oh wait..

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#5 8-Bitterness
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F2P is disgusting. Can't help it but I hate kids and brazilian hackers along with ridiculous grindfests. Even the people on Tribes Ascend were unbearably dumb and they wouldn't be capable of having fun even if their lives depended on it.

Imo mmos signal a pretty grim future for the people that actually play games and work to be good at them.

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#6 JigglyWiggly_
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F2P is disgusting. Can't help it but I hate kids and brazilian hackers. Even the people on Tribes Ascend were unbearably dumb and they wouldn't be capable of having fun even if their lives depended on it.8-Bitterness
tribes ascend is fine arena especially, you don't need to pay at all. Provided you are good anyway, the other classes are better than stock soldier AR + eagle pistol. But it's what i use anyway.
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MMORPG is like a second job. All dat grinding gears and levels. Pretty sad, but Koreans sure love them grinding games.

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#8 Cwagmire21
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And that's why every studio is trying to make a successful MMO, if you can pull it off - your studio is set.

Granted, there have been plenty lately that have invested a ton of money into an MMO to only have it fail months later.

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MMORPG is like a second job. All dat grinding gears and levels. Pretty sad, but Koreans sure love them grinding games.

Mr_BillGates
Its funny reading comments like this. If someone comes home from work and plays games for 3 hours they are a hardcore gamer and praised for it, yet if someone comes home from work and plays WoW for a few hours each night it gets called a second job...
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#10 Nintatterdemon
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F2P makes sense for the MMO model. It sucks, but that's what the market has shown it wants. I don't play many MMOs but the few I've played, I preferred the monthly subscription model.

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#11 trijity
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I suppose that I do not understand the point of this. They take an entire GENRE and combine it to advertise how much money it made? Who knows what games were all included in this as well. Hell, let's take every single FPS ever created in the genre and see how much it made this year, guarantee it trumps those figures. Let's take the entirety of the sports genre, racing genre, anything.

This is a cool statistic just for the sake of knowing how much it's "worth", but in terms of proving anything else is just dumb. People taking this information and claiming MMO players spend a lot are being incredibly ignorant.

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#12 MadCat46
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I suppose that I do not understand the point of this. They take an entire GENRE and combine it to advertise how much money it made? Who knows what games were all included in this as well. Hell, let's take every single FPS ever created in the genre and see how much it made this year, guarantee it trumps those figures. Let's take the entirety of the sports genre, racing genre, anything.

This is a cool statistic just for the sake of knowing how much it's "worth", but in terms of proving anything else is just dumb. People taking this information and claiming MMO players spend a lot are being incredibly ignorant.

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To give it some context $6.5b put's it at a little under 10% of the industries total income per year which is around $70b. So at the very least it proves the MMO market represents a sizable chunk on the markets income and is pretty impressive in a industry as diversified as this.
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#13 Bird_Killer
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$13 billion over 400 million players over dozens of countries isn't anything really significant.

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#14 Kinthalis
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[QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

MMORPG is like a second job. All dat grinding gears and levels. Pretty sad, but Koreans sure love them grinding games.

V4LENT1NE

Its funny reading comments like this. If someone comes home from work and plays games for 3 hours they are a hardcore gamer and praised for it, yet if someone comes home from work and plays WoW for a few hours each night it gets called a second job...

EXACTLY. It's just pathetic balbberings from either jeoulous console gamers that don't have that many MMO's to play, or ignorant people who like to stereotype because thinking before they speak would be too much effort for them.

I know people who feel exactly the same way, even though they EASILY play more than your average MMO gamer, they just play Call fo Duty or Halo instead.

The irony doesn't seem to phase them one bit.

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#15 Kinthalis
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$13 billion over 400 million players over dozens of countries isn't anything really significant.

Bird_Killer

In what way is it not significant?

In terms of rewvennu per player? That might matter to you, but it means jach $hit to the people in the industry. It's INVESTMENT vs return they care about, and it appears to be doing well in that regard.

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#16 Bird_Killer
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[QUOTE="Bird_Killer"]

$13 billion over 400 million players over dozens of countries isn't anything really significant.

Kinthalis

In what way is it not significant?

In terms of rewvennu per player? That might matter to you, but it means jach $hit to the people in the industry. It's INVESTMENT vs return they care about, and it appears to be doing well in that regard.

It's jack **** because it gives broad data that doesn't say much in reality. The "people in the industry" don't know how much they've collectively invested. Let me point out that this infographic is more not to only inform the public the genre makes, but also to raise awareness of the research/database organization that produced it. If the "people in industry" wants data that they care about, then they'd just buy that subscription.

This is nothing more than showing the obvious with numbers that you can't deduce/analyze further with and self-promotion of the site's service.

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#17 grimdust
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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"][QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

MMORPG is like a second job. All dat grinding gears and levels. Pretty sad, but Koreans sure love them grinding games.

Kinthalis

Its funny reading comments like this. If someone comes home from work and plays games for 3 hours they are a hardcore gamer and praised for it, yet if someone comes home from work and plays WoW for a few hours each night it gets called a second job...

EXACTLY. It's just pathetic balbberings from either jeoulous console gamers that don't have that many MMO's to play, or ignorant people who like to stereotype because thinking before they speak would be too much effort for them.

I know people who feel exactly the same way, even though they EASILY play more than your average MMO gamer, they just play Call fo Duty or Halo instead.

The irony doesn't seem to phase them one bit.

The second job part is in the grinding not the hours spent. A reference to the boring side of the genre that is essential to keep people busy month after month.
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#18 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"] Its funny reading comments like this. If someone comes home from work and plays games for 3 hours they are a hardcore gamer and praised for it, yet if someone comes home from work and plays WoW for a few hours each night it gets called a second job...grimdust

EXACTLY. It's just pathetic balbberings from either jeoulous console gamers that don't have that many MMO's to play, or ignorant people who like to stereotype because thinking before they speak would be too much effort for them.

I know people who feel exactly the same way, even though they EASILY play more than your average MMO gamer, they just play Call fo Duty or Halo instead.

The irony doesn't seem to phase them one bit.

The second job part is in the grinding not the hours spent. A reference to the boring side of the genre that is essential to keep people busy month after month.

So grinding is boring to you.... but what about people that play COD 4 hours straight each night? Or FIFA 4 hours x day? It's the same maps over and over, it's the same football game over and over. Now I agree some people take gaming to the extreme, specially MMOs.
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#19 8-Bitterness
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[QUOTE="grimdust"][QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

EXACTLY. It's just pathetic balbberings from either jeoulous console gamers that don't have that many MMO's to play, or ignorant people who like to stereotype because thinking before they speak would be too much effort for them.

I know people who feel exactly the same way, even though they EASILY play more than your average MMO gamer, they just play Call fo Duty or Halo instead.

The irony doesn't seem to phase them one bit.

FelipeInside

The second job part is in the grinding not the hours spent. A reference to the boring side of the genre that is essential to keep people busy month after month.

So grinding is boring to you.... but what about people that play COD 4 hours straight each night? Or FIFA 4 hours x day? It's the same maps over and over, it's the same football game over and over. Now I agree some people take gaming to the extreme, specially MMOs.

Thing there I think is that normally even if you play matches on the same map on an FPS (take dust_2 on CSS for example) they will hardly come out the same every time, when grinding things often feel like a drag and like more of exactly the same over and over again, not to say it can't vary but when grinding properly you expect things not to vary so you can maximize efficiency. Of course if you play COD for hours on end only to level up that defeats the purpose and it turns into a boring grindfest.

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People have already dropped well over $100 on SOE's Scamside 2.

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#21 V4LENT1NE
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[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"] Its funny reading comments like this. If someone comes home from work and plays games for 3 hours they are a hardcore gamer and praised for it, yet if someone comes home from work and plays WoW for a few hours each night it gets called a second job...grimdust

EXACTLY. It's just pathetic balbberings from either jeoulous console gamers that don't have that many MMO's to play, or ignorant people who like to stereotype because thinking before they speak would be too much effort for them.

I know people who feel exactly the same way, even though they EASILY play more than your average MMO gamer, they just play Call fo Duty or Halo instead.

The irony doesn't seem to phase them one bit.

The second job part is in the grinding not the hours spent. A reference to the boring side of the genre that is essential to keep people busy month after month.

Every game has grinding aspects if you play it that way, WoW is actually one of the games that has the most variety.

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Shamefur dispray :Pwis3boi
Just read this out with the spelling as you intended. Thought about where it was from, remembered Shogun 2, then I lol'd.
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#23 illmatic87
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But yeah. Already spent about $30 on GW2s gem store. No regrets either. Is a positive sign for the industry, because I find that one of the primary motivators for player microtransactions is encouraged from the game providing a good service or, at the very least, a good core product. It still has a long ways to go as I still feel that free-to-play games are dominated by freeloaders (who tend to be the most vocal and entitled, despite fairness). But it is without dangers, especially if developers want to try exploit negative psychological behaviours. (ie. Virtual gambling).
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#24 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="grimdust"][QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

EXACTLY. It's just pathetic balbberings from either jeoulous console gamers that don't have that many MMO's to play, or ignorant people who like to stereotype because thinking before they speak would be too much effort for them.

I know people who feel exactly the same way, even though they EASILY play more than your average MMO gamer, they just play Call fo Duty or Halo instead.

The irony doesn't seem to phase them one bit.

V4LENT1NE

The second job part is in the grinding not the hours spent. A reference to the boring side of the genre that is essential to keep people busy month after month.

Every game has grinding aspects if you play it that way, WoW is actually one of the games that has the most variety.

WOW has certainly improved in grinding aspects, it used to be a lot worse. For MMOs, the most variety in grinding I've seen is with LOTRO and Guild Wars 2.
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#25 C_Glass
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wow, 54% of polish mmo gamers are under 30? Dear god, that's alot of old people filling up the mmo space.


I'd expect that sort of statistic to spread out all over the west in the next decade though.

Go old people, don't let arthrtis stop you from pushing the wasd keys damnit!!! :x Die with a joypad in your hand.

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#26 synxz
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MMORPG is like a second job. All dat grinding gears and levels. Pretty sad, but Koreans sure love them grinding games.

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Spot on. I grew up playing MMORPG and then discovering other game with less grinding aspects. I thought it was pretty dumb to be wasting time grinding exp or items, or making specific schedules to hunt a rare loot when there's other games out there that offer plenty more variety. Any fps or rts multi match outdones the grinding mmorpg experience. If a match of chilvary or natural selection 2 is the same as repetitious clicking and looting monsters, then that player is beyond salvation.
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]Shamefur dispray :Pillmatic87
Just read this out with the spelling as you intended. Thought about where it was from, remembered Shogun 2, then I lol'd.

that's called engrish

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[QUOTE="grimdust"][QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

EXACTLY. It's just pathetic balbberings from either jeoulous console gamers that don't have that many MMO's to play, or ignorant people who like to stereotype because thinking before they speak would be too much effort for them.

I know people who feel exactly the same way, even though they EASILY play more than your average MMO gamer, they just play Call fo Duty or Halo instead.

The irony doesn't seem to phase them one bit.

V4LENT1NE

The second job part is in the grinding not the hours spent. A reference to the boring side of the genre that is essential to keep people busy month after month.

Every game has grinding aspects if you play it that way, WoW is actually one of the games that has the most variety.

I believe that anyone that sticks with an MMO even though they are well aware of its shortcomings and they are bored of it yet still play it are pretty loony. "Boring MMO" and player deserve each other.