Seriously, I tried versing it in easy and medium and it is pathetic. First off it can't build properly, by the time I'm building my super units it's still stuck on T1 and 2 units. It never attack except I think once on medium. Also when I was trying to move some of my units instead of the ones around them moving aside automatically the units were just bumping into each other and taking ages to get out. They also can't shoot right, there was a scout in my base and some of my units started firing...at my own base, they couldn't tell the building was blocking their line of site and ended up damaging a power plant rather than the scout. Same with mountains or anything. :?
The huge units like the Fatboy just clips through everything as well it just drives through walls, buildings, turrets ect.
Does anyone else have this? I mean I've seen some pretty average A.I in games but this is HORRIBLE and the clipping is so obvious I wonder how the hell they missed it.
It's obvious that this thread is pointless....I hope it dies right away :)....after my post of course. You're biasim is noted my C&C loving friend....
I also like both Supreme Commander and C&C but you don't see me running around posting my opinions....do us a favor and keep them to your self please :)
Umm im sorry but i thought you where allowed to state your opinion on forums, but he was also asking does anyone else have the same problem answear him instead of getting all stuck up over a game.
Jesus christ I have a kane avatar and everyone thinks I'm bias. Heres a crazy thought guys....maybe I like RTS games the most and not just some idiot C&C fanboy posting flame bait?
This isn't system wars you know and I'm not a fanboy. My point still stands I still think it has really really bad A.I and if you have nothing to add than "omg c&c bias!" then don't bother posting.
I think what he's saying is that there are problems with the AI that aren't solvable no matter what difficulty it's played on. Units shooting indefinitely into a mountain for example.
Seriously, I tried versing it in easy and medium and it is pathetic. First off it can't build properly, by the time I'm building my super units it's still stuck on T1 and 2 units. It never attack except I think once on medium. Also when I was trying to move some of my units instead of the ones around them moving aside automatically the units were just bumping into each other and taking ages to get out. They also can't shoot right, there was a scout in my base and some of my units started firing...at my own base, they couldn't tell the building was blocking their line of site and ended up damaging a power plant rather than the scout. Same with mountains or anything. :?
The huge units like the Fatboy just clips through everything as well it just drives through walls, buildings, turrets ect.
Does anyone else have this? I mean I've seen some pretty average A.I in games but this is HORRIBLE and the clipping is so obvious I wonder how the hell they missed it.darklord888
Then you havn't played many games then, SupCom's A.I. is awesome
[QUOTE="darklord888"]Seriously, I tried versing it in easy and medium and it is pathetic. First off it can't build properly, by the time I'm building my super units it's still stuck on T1 and 2 units. It never attack except I think once on medium. Also when I was trying to move some of my units instead of the ones around them moving aside automatically the units were just bumping into each other and taking ages to get out. They also can't shoot right, there was a scout in my base and some of my units started firing...at my own base, they couldn't tell the building was blocking their line of site and ended up damaging a power plant rather than the scout. Same with mountains or anything. :?
The huge units like the Fatboy just clips through everything as well it just drives through walls, buildings, turrets ect.
Does anyone else have this? I mean I've seen some pretty average A.I in games but this is HORRIBLE and the clipping is so obvious I wonder how the hell they missed it.113871999
Then you havn't played many games then, SupCom's A.I. is awesome
I've played 5 games vs the A.I and all are the same.
When I was playing a demo skirmish on hard, it was basically a race to get the big units out first so there wasn't a whole lot of fighting going on. The computer won the race (this was before I figured out how to build the experimental units), but thanks to my amazing defense and the monkeylord's lazer fizzling out just before it could totally fry my commander I was able to get in close and give it an overcharge blast. Soon after, I finished the nuke launcher and launched my first nuke at the AI's base, taking out its experminental development area. Very satisfying indeed! A few minutes later I sent a spy plane to recon the base and I was very suprised to see that missile defense systems were popping up all over the remainder of the base, which was still quite large.
Conclusion:Â In my experience the AI is very adaptive to the techniques being used against it.
When I was playing a demo skirmish on hard, it was basically a race to get the big units out first so there wasn't a whole lot of fighting going on. The computer won the race (this was before I figured out how to build the experimental units), but thanks to my amazing defense and the monkeylord's lazer fizzling out just before it could totally fry my commander I was able to get in close and give it an overcharge blast. Soon after, I finished the nuke launcher and launched my first nuke at the AI's base, taking out its experminental development area. Very satisfying indeed! A few minutes later I sent a spy plane to recon the base and I was very suprised to see that missile defense systems were popping up all over the remainder of the base, which was still quite large.
Conclusion: In my experience the AI is very adaptive to the techniques being used against it. zenephi
I think SupCom's AI is very efficient, but I hardly think it's very smart, it's great at building an economy, defense, and an army without cheating, but it hardly responds to certain types of attacks or units very well (for example, they won't build more AA if you constantly attack them with airborne units) there are lots of games that feature this now, but at least SupCom's AI is efficient.
Umm im sorry but i thought you where allowed to state your opinion on forums, but he was also asking does anyone else have the same problem answear him instead of getting all stuck up over a game.
Samuraidragons
Actually, his avatar does make a difference. That is like me having an avatar of Jesus Christ and I am talking about hating satan.
Chris Taylor, the same creator that made Total Annihilation. Now those who played T.A. would immediately understand that Supreme Commander and T.A. are known to be one of the most modable rts games. Total Annihilation had an unbelievably crappy A.I. Many mods were later created that were specifically meant to harden the difficulty of the A.I. and the same will happen to Supreme Commander. I assure you all, that in a few months, hundreds of mods will become available and I'm pretty sure that more than one of them will make the A.I. more difficult. Until then, just enjoy the game. Not all games are pefect, but they are just meant to simply entertain.
Umm im sorry but i thought you where allowed to state your opinion on forums, but he was also asking does anyone else have the same problem answear him instead of getting all stuck up over a game.
AntWrig
Actually, his avatar does make a difference. That is like me having an avatar of Jesus Christ and I am talking about hating satan. Err no it's not like that at all. If I was christian that means I'm against satan. Just because I have a picture of an RTS I enjoy does not mean I hate others. I enjoy most RTS's and was looking forward to SupCom just as much as C&C3 but I was dissapointed and mainly by the A.I. That's why I made the thread.
Chris Taylor, the same creator that made Total Annihilation. Now those who played T.A. would immediately understand that Supreme Commander and T.A. are known to be one of the most modable rts games. Total Annihilation had an unbelievably crappy A.I. Many mods were later created that were specifically meant to harden the difficulty of the A.I. and the same will happen to Supreme Commander. I assure you all, that in a few months, hundreds of mods will become available and I'm pretty sure that more than one of them will make the A.I. more difficult. Until then, just enjoy the game. Not all games are pefect, but they are just meant to simply entertain.
Yeah I can see mods coming out soon but it's still pretty poor having AI so bad mods need to be made to play it any fun at all. It's not fun spending 1 hour + just to wipe their base out in 5 minutes.
It's obvious this guy will not change his mind! He's a Biased fanboy!
Lds_Ricky
Yes just because I like a game that means I hate all others and have been only playing tiberium sun for the last 10 years... It isn't a religion mate it's a game.
Well, anyways, EVEN IF you dont like SupCom AI (which many people do, I guess it depends on the person), the AI is EASILY moddable and has already been changed to be more human-like (AKA builds full-tech units and isnt afraid of doing it quick). The AI already supports the ability to learn and plan against you, but i think the actual AI exicution of the game was simplified because the game takes much more than other RTS games to get the ropes. But yeah, you can download AI mods that make it better. And a mod for anything else too (UI for instance). And you mention how its not fun to spend 1+ hour (which means your still learning the game, my games never last more than an hour unless I want them to, people expect to just pickup and play this game to its fullest potentual) just to blow up a base in 5 minutes tells me this: SupCom is not the style of RTS that your interested in! If so, get over it! If you obivously dont like how supcom plays (I personally love it), then C&C3 would be a better choice for you. A game doenst suck just because you are not interested in its gameplay style.
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