Skyrim 6GB, Really? Bethesda gonna shove us console textures up in the a$s...

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#1 Kankaseni1
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Ridiculous. Looks this steaming pile of crap will need to be modded first to get enjoyable on a decent level. Like every other Bethesda game.
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#2 chaoz-king
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It's not like an HD texture pack wasn't going to be made within the first week anyway.
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#3 DanielDust
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Bethesda will do nothing, just as you said, "the modding community" will do it, funny thing is, there's no way a decent texture pack won't be over those 6 gigs.
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#5 Iantheone
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So long as they didnt skimp on content im fine. Like other have said, it can all be fixed with mods.
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#6 tobes1993
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Firstly if you think it's all just about texture then i think you need to play some better games. Secondly you've already seen the demos, and it looks great. Why not wait and see what the game is actually like before sharing you're incessant negativity with us all.
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#7 bussinrounds
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People keep talking about mods will make it better. Did any mods overhaul oblivion's garbage non-reactive combat and turn it into something somewhat tolerable ? I don't think so.

At least if your gonna make a s***ty action game, would it be too much to ask for some decent action ? :x

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#8 Ikavnieks
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People keep talking about mods will make it better. Did any mods overhaul oblivion's garbage non-reactive combat and turn it into something somewhat tolerable ? I don't think so.

At least if your gonna make a s***ty action game, would it be too much to ask for some decent action ? :x

bussinrounds

Actually OOO, Deadly Reflex, Midas Magic were among many, so yes, I think so.

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#9 Vesica_Prime
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I actually think the gameplay looks better than any previous Elder Scrolls game and I say this as a hardcore Morrowind fanboy.

Oh and the graphics look very nice.

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#10 bussinrounds
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[QUOTE="bussinrounds"]

People keep talking about mods will make it better. Did any mods overhaul oblivion's garbage non-reactive combat and turn it into something somewhat tolerable ? I don't think so.

At least if your gonna make a sh**ty action game, would it be too much to ask for some decent action ? :x

Ikavnieks

Actually OOO, Deadly Reflex, Midas Magic were among many, so yes, I think so.

I said OVERHAUL the combat completly and give actual hit reaction ? Not just make slight changes to an already s*** system.

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#11 Ondoval
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I'm still playing unmodded Oblivion currently, and despite the low res textures, is a BEAUTIFUL game.

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#12 Vesica_Prime
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I'm still playing unmodded Oblivion currently, and despite the low res textures, is a BEAUTIFUL game.

Ondoval

I'm echoing this point of view, I don't get why everyone says it is an ugly game. It was probably one of the most beautiful game of its time (which of course lost out to Crysis but what hasn't.)

Personally I can write an essay on the flaws of Oblivion but ugliness would not be on it.

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#13 madmenno
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You can't make assumptions like that if you don't know anything about it. DXT compression owns and many companies don't use it. They could also have packed there data files thighter. Although, yes it seems a bit small, but you already seen the quality of the game right? Be glad it isn't that large, there will hopefully come plenty of mods to cramp your HD.
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#14 madmenno
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[QUOTE="Ondoval"]

I'm still playing unmodded Oblivion currently, and despite the low res textures, is a BEAUTIFUL game.

Vesica_Prime

I'm echoing this point of view, I don't get why everyone says it is an ugly game. It was probably one of the most beautiful game of its time (which of course lost out to Crysis but what hasn't.)

Personally I can write an essay on the flaws of Oblivion but ugliness would not be on it.

Agree as well, with Qarls texture pack and some environmental mods it even more awesome. But playing oblivion unmodded on PC is a crime. Do yourself a favour and make from that soso game an awesome game of epicness.

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[QUOTE="Ikavnieks"]

[QUOTE="bussinrounds"]

People keep talking about mods will make it better. Did any mods overhaul oblivion's garbage non-reactive combat and turn it into something somewhat tolerable ? I don't think so.

At least if your gonna make a sh**ty action game, would it be too much to ask for some decent action ? :x

bussinrounds

Actually OOO, Deadly Reflex, Midas Magic were among many, so yes, I think so.

I said OVERHAUL the combat completly and give actual hit reaction ? Not just make slight changes to an already s*** system.

Yes, that's what Deadly Reflex does. It chucks the default combat system for a more in-depth, technical one.

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#16 Chris_53
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Skyrim looks fantastic from what I can tell. I honestly cant understand why people are complaining about the textures
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#17 Legendaryscmt
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Since when does size = quality? As far as I'm concerned, the smaller the size, the more games I can install.

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#18 lordreaven
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Justa reminder, Todd Howard confiremd PC version is getting higher res textures

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#19 D1zzyCriminal
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Quarl will sort it.

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#20 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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Justa reminder, Todd Howard confiremd PC version is getting higher res textures

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Didn't he also say that the game will look similar tot he console versions? So which one is it? :P
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#21 Johnny_Rock
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...because texture compression is all that matters I suppose. Please concern yourself with the steaming pile of crap between your ears before pointing out piles elsewhere.

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I lol'd!

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#22 lordreaven
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[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"][QUOTE="lordreaven"]

Justa reminder, Todd Howard confiremd PC version is getting higher res textures

Didn't he also say that the game will look similar tot he console versions? So which one is it? :P

Touche.......
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#24 MythPro1
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[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"][QUOTE="lordreaven"]

Justa reminder, Todd Howard confiremd PC version is getting higher res textures

Didn't he also say that the game will look similar tot he console versions? So which one is it? :P

Touche.......

The fact we have to rely on mods for this sort of thing is sad enough.
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#25 sailor232
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As long as it dosnt have copy/paste dungeons I'll be happy.

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#26 BlackDevil99
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so long as the story and gameplay are great they could re-use the oblivion textures for all i care.

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#27 MythPro1
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What is Skyrim adding that's new? What sets it apart from Morrowind or Oblivion aside from the visuals? This isn't sarcasm, I'd like to know.

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#28 shakmaster13
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What is Skyrim adding that's new? What sets it apart from Morrowind or Oblivion aside from the visuals? This isn't sarcasm, I'd like to know.

MythPro1
Does anything need to? The elder scrolls games have all been amazing for their time (except Arena).
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#29 lordlunch2
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I have already created a mod that I will be releasing on DAY 1. It uses textures as high in fidelity as the Avatar film and is what USA today calls "A magnificent spectacle for the eyes."
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#30 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Yes because that should be the main concern.. Not the fear that the game will be as shallow as Oblivion was.
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#31 Code135
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6GB ... that's freaking Oblivion with mods ... though by the looks of the system requierments Bethesda released I don't know what to believe anymore ...

P.S. Check out Start/Select, I guarantee you will laugh in the first 30 seconds and then at the end of the show when you see the requierments you'll yell "GTFO !"

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#32 MythPro1
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[QUOTE="MythPro1"]

What is Skyrim adding that's new? What sets it apart from Morrowind or Oblivion aside from the visuals? This isn't sarcasm, I'd like to know.

shakmaster13
Does anything need to? The elder scrolls games have all been amazing for their time (except Arena).

For me, yes that's important. I'd like to see games that build on what came previously and add more ideas. Bringing more to the table is very important to me.
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#33 vfibsux
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As long as they don't consolize it in other ways I can live with it.

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[QUOTE="shakmaster13"][QUOTE="MythPro1"]

What is Skyrim adding that's new? What sets it apart from Morrowind or Oblivion aside from the visuals? This isn't sarcasm, I'd like to know.

MythPro1
Does anything need to? The elder scrolls games have all been amazing for their time (except Arena).

For me, yes that's important. I'd like to see games that build on what came previously and add more ideas. Bringing more to the table is very important to me.

Mmm if i had to choose the things that they added that interest me most it would be... The promise of more level designers for dungeons, to get back to more unique locations compared to morrowind. The perk system is also very interesting, since it basically replaces the perk you received every 25 skill ups with a lot more user freedom and choice, which seems way more fun and less tedious. At the same time the game gives you an entire new world to explore...which alone is worth it for me :P. The addition of several more armor sets is also a huuuuge plus, because so much joy in the games comes from getting new loot.
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#35 alan_carter
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heh.. they looked fine, not flawless, specially from that xbox footage, close looks at vegetation and texts.. there were some flickering shadows but...

Please don't scare me, or i'll go mad and prepurchase bf3.. i have time til tomorrow 23:59!

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#36 jer_1
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[QUOTE="jedinat"]

...because texture compression is all that matters I suppose. Please concern yourself with the steaming pile of crap between your ears before pointing out piles elsewhere.

Johnny_Rock

I lol'd!

Hah, that was a great one! I will reserve my words for the final game. I'm sure it's going to look just fine but I really expected the size to be about double what it is. Maybe this 6gig size is for the PS3/360 version?

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#37 with_teeth26
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Remember Far Cry 2? It was like 3 gigs and looked amazing.

Then, remember RAGE? 20 gigs, and it had horrible textures.

Imma wait for the release.

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#38 alan_carter
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[QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]

[QUOTE="jedinat"]

...because texture compression is all that matters I suppose. Please concern yourself with the steaming pile of crap between your ears before pointing out piles elsewhere.

jer_1

I lol'd!

Hah, that was a great one! I will reserve my words for the final game. I'm sure it's going to look just fine but I really expected the size to be about double what it is. Maybe this 6gig size is for the PS3/360 version?

Fallout 3 is 5,6 gb and oblivion is 4,4gb. Both without mods or dlcs. New vegas is on my other pc and the requierments says 10gb, and i remember that it occupied less than that. Maybe as u said those hdd stimations are for console, but i doubt it as they're mentioned along pc specs.. still game can't be more than 12gb.


PS: gta IV and ep.from liberty city, each one is 15gb, using 30gb of my hard drive, and textures are awsome, aren't they?

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[QUOTE="bussinrounds"]

[QUOTE="Ikavnieks"] Actually OOO, Deadly Reflex, Midas Magic were among many, so yes, I think so.

Phoenix534

I said OVERHAUL the combat completly and give actual hit reaction ? Not just make slight changes to an already s*** system.

Yes, that's what Deadly Reflex does. It chucks the default combat system for a more in-depth, technical one.

Yup, I haven't played oblivion for a while now but DR mod among others made the combat really good and enjoyable. It's just sad that people sphew ignorance before even doing a simple google search.

It's hilarious that it seems that people expect better combat from a RPG then games that are actually built around combat, like Devil May cry and Bajonetta.

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#40 Crystal-Rush
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Well consoles are the lead platform. Everything that was translated to the PC version had consoles in mind.

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#41 Code135
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Remember Far Cry 2? It was like 3 gigs and looked amazing.

Then, remember RAGE? 20 gigs, and it had horrible textures.

Imma wait for the release.

with_teeth26

This is so funny, yet so true ... although Rage got fixed ... kinda ... :roll:

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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="bussinrounds"] I said OVERHAUL the combat completly and give actual hit reaction ? Not just make slight changes to an already s**t system.

kaealy

Yes, that's what Deadly Reflex does. It chucks the default combat system for a more in-depth, technical one.

Yup, I haven't played oblivion for a while now but DR mod among others made the combat really good and enjoyable. It's just sad that people sphew ignorance before even doing a simple google search.

It's hilarious that it seems that people expect better combat from a RPG then games that are actually built around combat, like Devil May cry and Bajonetta.

Mmmhmm. Deadly reflex for the win.

Leaping out of stealth in slo-mo for a critical hit to the neck is awesome (also note the texture pack :D)

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[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"] Didn't he also say that the game will look similar tot he console versions? So which one is it? :PMythPro1
Touche.......

The fact we have to rely on mods for this sort of thing is sad enough.

Not really, but the fact that people are surprised by this is what is really sad.
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#44 Code135
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[QUOTE="MythPro1"][QUOTE="lordreaven"] Touche.......Agent_Kaliaver
The fact we have to rely on mods for this sort of thing is sad enough.

Not really, but the fact that people are surprised by this is what is really sad.

Why wouldn't we be surprised ? Games lately are over 10GB easy and just thinking that Skyrim, not some random other random game but Skyrim is 6 freaking GB ... how the hell did they put everything in that ... Only time will tell ... for now:roll:

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#45 jedinat
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Oooh, I was moderated with point loss again. I fail to see why someone can make a topic clearly insulting an upcoming game others have invested much of their selves in; yet one can't respond word for word exactly in kind.

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#46 Code135
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[QUOTE="MythPro1"][QUOTE="lordreaven"] Touche.......Agent_Kaliaver
The fact we have to rely on mods for this sort of thing is sad enough.

Not really, but the fact that people are surprised by this is what is really sad.

Why wouldn't we be surprised ? Games lately are over 10GB easy and just thinking that Skyrim, not some random other random game but Skyrim is 6 freaking GB ... how the hell did they put everything in that ... Only time will tell ... for now:roll:

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#47 DanielDust
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Oooh, I was moderated with point loss again. I fail to see why someone can make a topic clearly insulting an upcoming game others have invested much of their selves in; yet one can't respond word for word exactly in kind.

jedinat

Maybe it's because insulting a game isn't against the TOS. Your "educated" insulting comments are fun, but when you're writing about TES, something snaps.

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[QUOTE="Agent_Kaliaver"][QUOTE="MythPro1"][QUOTE="lordreaven"] Touche.......

The fact we have to rely on mods for this sort of thing is sad enough.

Not really, but the fact that people are surprised by this is what is really sad.

I believe you misunderstood what I was implying. I was saying it's sad we have to wait for mods to really make the game look nice, run correctly, or play logically.
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#49 sleepingzzz
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People keep talking about mods will make it better. Did any mods overhaul oblivion's garbage non-reactive combat and turn it into something somewhat tolerable ? I don't think so.

At least if your gonna make a s***ty action game, would it be too much to ask for some decent action ? :x

bussinrounds

You obviously never tried any of the mods. Don't know why you people jump in as if you have knowledge about them. If you never tried using a combat mod and I seriously doubt if you even tried one mod just don't say anything. It also saves you from looking like a big douche.

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#50 jedinat
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[QUOTE="jedinat"]

Oooh, I was moderated with point loss again. I fail to see why someone can make a topic clearly insulting an upcoming game others have invested much of their selves in; yet one can't respond word for word exactly in kind.

DanielDust

Maybe it's because insulting a game isn't against the TOS. Your "educated" insulting comments are fun, but when you're writing about TES, something snaps.

But trolling is, specifically "provoking fans of a particular system or game"