Sins or WiC?

hey, Im a huge fan of RTS games and have been very interested in both games and just recently built a computer to handle these games well. However, since i've already spent so much on the computer i dont really wanna spend that much money on gaming for a while so against my own will i can only buy one of these 2 games.

Which one would be a better buy overall? Thanks for your opinions

I think Sins is by far the better game, but it's not really an RTS - it's more like a real time representation of a turn based strategy game.

Check out the video review in the link in my sig if you want more info on the game.

world in conflict has amazing multiplayer, the graphics are jaw dropping, the action is alot of fun and different while it still has a great, but short single player. It's overall an awesome game but I wouldn't get it if you have no plans for online multiplayer.

I haven't played Sins but from what i've seen its more of a slow paced game where there is alot more strategy involved. The space theme of it is really cool though and I personally love the idea of long 3 hour matches where there is no real rush on you, where you can just build your economy, unlike other traditonal rts games.

Both games aren't really 'rts' games though, at least not compared to what your probalby used to.

both are quality games, here are some pros/cons for each;

sins - no SP campaign, multiplayer and cpu skirmishes take hours even on the smallest maps. huge amount of life and replayabilty

WiC - SP campaign, skirmishes, multiplayer. shorter more intense battles.

Ironically I reinstalled WiC last night and after playing the first few missions I will definately say Sins is the better game. By a long shot.

Thats not to say WiC is bad. Its a 9.0+ title imo...but sins is just mo' fun! ideally you should own both.

I haven't played Sins, but I can promise that you won't be disappointed if you get WiC. The SP is great, but the MP is really where it's at. There are over 20 incredibly destructible maps, four roles (player classes) that feel unique and balanced and the battles are not only crazy fun and intense, but also eye candy. It has a way of requiring teamwork to win, but making it easy to do even with strangers (but if you have friends with the game, you'll have a lot more fun, like just about every game).

Plus, it's unique. It's fast like a shooter, but plays like an RTS and overall lots of fun. A must-buy if you're a fan of multiplayer RTS (techincally RTT)

Sins is structured very well, but I quit playing after one game...the lack of a single player campaign was a deal breaker for me. I wish I would have read the reviews or the box more carefully. I can't recommend Sins.

Just to clarify on the people saying Sins doesn't have a single player campaign - it doesn't have a campaign in the same way that the Civilization and Total War games don't have campaigns.

There is a very solid (and very long lasting) single player game, it's just not the typical mission based structure you see in RTS games - but again, Sins isn't an RTS.

World in Conflict for sure. It will really get you to appreciate your new computer. Sins of a Solar Empire is a great game and I really recommend it but it doesn't have the "explosive action" of World in Conflict.

Both great games. WiC feels more like a traditional RTS while Sins is more like a combination of GalCiv and Homeworld. Whatever you choose you won't make a mistakezhivago_x

World in Conflict is all but traditional.

Just to clarify on the people saying Sins doesn't have a single player campaign - it doesn't have a campaign in the same way that the Civilization and Total War games don't have campaigns.

There is a very solid (and very long lasting) single player game, it's just not the typical mission based structure you see in RTS games - but again, Sins isn't an RTS.

mfsa

Sins single player is closes to an expanded RTS skirmish than to something like Total War or Civilization. Anyways the 4X element in the game is not that strong so in reality it is an RTS... but with different pacing.

To the TP; both of the are great games and you might as well try out the demos to see which one you prefer as they play differently.

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Just to clarify on the people saying Sins doesn't have a single player campaign - it doesn't have a campaign in the same way that the Civilization and Total War games don't have campaigns.

There is a very solid (and very long lasting) single player game, it's just not the typical mission based structure you see in RTS games - but again, Sins isn't an RTS.

Nikalai_88

Sins single player is closes to an expanded RTS skirmish than to something like Total War or Civilization. Anyways the 4X element in the game is not that strong so in reality it is an RTS... but with different pacing.

To the TP; both of the are great games and you might as well try out the demos to see which one you prefer as they play differently.

Yeah, it is closer to RTS than 4X, but a typical RTS game will last 15-90 minutes, while a typical game of Sins might be a hundred times that if you're playing with 5+ people/AIs. I was just trying to establish that Sins isn't a typical RTS, and because of the nature of the game, it doesn't really need a campaign - and a campaign arguably wouldn't work out so well, either.

Company of Heroes.. best RTS out there.Rattlesnake_8

That and WiC are probably my all time favourite strategy games. CoH is probably a better deal because it's cheaper, but you absolutely cannot go wrong either way. Or better yet, get them both!

I'm not very interested in WiC.

I played and loved Sins, but I haven't played it in a long time... too slow paced IMO.

I'm not very interested in WiC.

I played and loved Sins, but I haven't played it in a long time... too slow paced IMO.

aliblabla2007

Only reason I haven't played Sins in a while is because matches take way too long and I never have the time to play through a full one. Only time I can play is probably during weekends.
mo0ksi

I did once. it took 6 hours on a large map with 1 AI.

What a game, 6 hours that's way too long for an Strategy game..

Must be an very hard Strategy Game.. ^^

World In Conflict.

The only downside is that the first mission absolutely sucks.

But then the story gets better and better, the gameplay opens up and by the end of the fifth mission you'll be amazed.

The missions themselves are brilliant.

And the multiplayer is something really original.

With GTA IV out in seven-eight days, I'm debating on whether to pick up a copy of Sins. I heard that, if it draws you in, it sucks your time away.

I might wait to get World in Conflict until the Soviet SP campaign is released.

[QUOTE="Rattlesnake_8"]Company of Heroes.. best RTS out there.AlternatingCaps

That and WiC are probably my all time favourite strategy games. CoH is probably a better deal because it's cheaper, but you absolutely cannot go wrong either way. Or better yet, get them both!

agreed, although i think the tc said he doesn't usually play rts games, and i wouldn't reccomend coh to a begginner. it's pretty tough, whereas if he is used to shooters, WIC is a great transitional step. it's an rts that has the pace of an fps, so i'd start with that. the only problem being that the controls of WIC will spoil you, and make it harder to get back into older, or more tradidional rts games.

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[QUOTE="Rattlesnake_8"]Company of Heroes.. best RTS out there.with_teeth26

That and WiC are probably my all time favourite strategy games. CoH is probably a better deal because it's cheaper, but you absolutely cannot go wrong either way. Or better yet, get them both!

agreed, although i think the tc said he doesn't usually play rts games, and i wouldn't reccomend coh to a begginner. it's pretty tough, whereas if he is used to shooters, WIC is a great transitional step. it's an rts that has the pace of an fps, so i'd start with that. the only problem being that the controls of WIC will spoil you, and make it harder to get back into older, or more tradidional rts games.

Still, nothing spoils like Supreme Commander...

When I returned to traditional RTS games after playing that one, it was such a shock, it ruined my C&C3 experience - I was so zoomed in!

I say Sins if you have the time to devote to it. I don't and barely play it.