Shadow Warrior, way better then I expected

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#1 REforever101
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It seems much rarer nowadays that a game that looks meh from the outset surprises me.  The new shadow warrior, so far at least, is one of them.  The visuals are drastically nicer then what they appeared in screenshots, the combat and swordplay actually seem to work, and most importantly the game has decent sense of immature humor coming from lo wang like the original build engine shadow warrior.  Also I found a few secret areas, so hopefully that keeps going too

On a negative note though, it would seem SSAO kind of hurts performance for some people. I'm using a quad core and a gtx 780 and I've found that at max settings and 1920x1080 there are a few areas where the fps dips a bit. Lowering ssao from ultra to medium seems to fix that right up though without actually hurting the visuals in anyway I could notice

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#2 jer_1
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This game looks great, I absolutely adored the original back when i was a young teen. I'm going to have to get this very soon!
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#3 pelvist
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It is a fun game, im at chapter 10 and liking the game so far but I do feel like the melee combat could have been done a lot better.

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#4 ShimmerMan
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Not seeing the hype personally. I thought the game was a solid 7 out of ten. I could state why the game is not much better than a 7 but I cant be assed.

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Not seeing the hype personally. I thought the game was a solid 7 out of ten. I could state why the game is not much better than a 7 but I cant be assed.

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That translates into you haven't played the game. The hype? There is no hype for the game, none at all.

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#6 ShimmerMan
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[QUOTE="ShimmerMan"]

Not seeing the hype personally. I thought the game was a solid 7 out of ten. I could state why the game is not much better than a 7 but I cant be assed.

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That translates into you haven't played the game. The hype? There is no hype for the game, none at all.

Why would I state I've played the game if I haven't. Now you're just blatently accusing someone of lying with no proof, that's not very clever is it. I guess you never learned to be "right" about anything and you are probably always wrong. The hype I'm referring to is the overly positive feedback the game is receiving from players.

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#7 uninspiredcup
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Already a thead. Yes, it's GOTY. Best shooter in years highlighing how crap they have become.

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Already a thead. Yes, it's GOTY. Best shooter in years highlighing how crap they have become.

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yeah i'm not really sure how shooters can bail out of the call of duty tail spin into the ground
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Gonna wait till it gets a little lower in price before buying it. But I'm glad the developers managed to make another great game. That reminds me, I need to play Hard Reset soon.
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#10 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Will play it when I can get it for like 10 bucks. Definitely not a 40 dollar game. Not for me.

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#11 coasterguy65
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Loved the original. Spent many late nights deathmatching on it. I'll pick up the new version once the price drops some. Maybe during the Steam winter sale.

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I really like it as well. I have used nothing but the Katana the entire time and have had a blast

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#13 Masculus
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It's the kind of shooter that when you push it, it pushes back. It's refreshing a FPS that feels you are actually playing it. I like the dodge thingy.

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Pretty awesome game from the 3 hours I played today, but at the same time Its not GOTY or anything atleast for me.

Love the art design and the gameplay is fun to, looking forward to buying it in the future for myself.

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#15 m25105
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It's a great FPS. Do yourself a favour and turn off hints too.
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Due to how unoptimized I hear it being, I am waiting till I build my new rig for this game.  (But I do hear it has some rather nice visuals)

However, I was a major fan of the original game, actually of the Build Tri-fecta (Blood, and Duke Nukem as well) 

 

I hear this game is a much better attempt than Duke Nukem Forever.  So it is gonna be something I get, just down the road. 

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Due to how unoptimized I hear it being, I am waiting till I build my new rig for this game.  (But I do hear it has some rather nice visuals)

However, I was a major fan of the original game, actually of the Build Tri-fecta (Blood, and Duke Nukem as well) 

 

I hear this game is a much better attempt than Duke Nukem Forever.  So it is gonna be something I get, just down the road. 

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its not terribly unoptimized, its just not well optimized either. I'm using an i7 with a gtx 780, the game is maxed out at 1920x1080. It mostly plays silky smooth, but it certainly does dip. Also setting ssao to low helps a lot, its kind of broken
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#18 Lach0121
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[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

Due to how unoptimized I hear it being, I am waiting till I build my new rig for this game.  (But I do hear it has some rather nice visuals)

However, I was a major fan of the original game, actually of the Build Tri-fecta (Blood, and Duke Nukem as well) 

 

I hear this game is a much better attempt than Duke Nukem Forever.  So it is gonna be something I get, just down the road. 

REforever101

its not terribly unoptimized, its just not well optimized either. I'm using an i7 with a gtx 780, the game is maxed out at 1920x1080. It mostly plays silky smooth, but it certainly does dip. Also setting ssao to low helps a lot, its kind of broken

Yeah thats on your rig, which is much more powerful than mine :P

My current rig is over 5 years old with upgrades (cpu/gpu/psu) and it is showing its age in modern games, but still running relatively strong considering. 

I also game at 1080p, so that would prolly be much worse for me. 

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I have a Q6600/4GB Ram/570GTX and it runs very well...actually was pretty damned impressed with how well the game runs on my computer pretty much maxed out @ 1980X1050. Anyways game is fantastic...wild hog really outdid themselves this time.
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I have a Q6600/4GB Ram/570GTX and it runs very well...actually was pretty damned impressed with how well the game runs on my computer pretty much maxed out @ 1980X1050. Anyways game is fantastic...wild hog really outdid themselves this time.Renevent42

 

Thats close to my rig, although I have a 945 phenom II quad. 

But did you mean to type 1680x1050, or 1920x1080?

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#21 Renevent42
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Yeah 1920X1080...my bad.
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#22 Lach0121
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Yeah 1920X1080...my bad.Renevent42

Hmm if you are getting good performance on your rig, I should get similar. As we both have 4gb of RAM ddr2.  and GTX570.

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#23 Renevent42
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How is this game getting so little attention?  It's freaking great!

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#24 m25105
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How is this game getting so little attention?  It's freaking great!

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Lack of bribery.
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#25 Renevent42
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[QUOTE="Renevent42"]

How is this game getting so little attention?  It's freaking great!

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Lack of bribery.

Honestly not seeing a lot of gamers talking about it either...
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#26 m25105
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[QUOTE="m25105"][QUOTE="Renevent42"]

How is this game getting so little attention?  It's freaking great!

Renevent42

Lack of bribery.

Honestly not seeing a lot of gamers talking about it either...

Because the game has not received the attention it deserved. Take IGN for example, still no review up. And the Escapist rated it 7/10, but if you read why you'll see that the reviewer is complaining about the levels being too hard to navigate and that the enemies too difficult, causing you to die and start from the last check point (clearly demonstrating that the reviewer didn't know or bothered to check for quick saves). So the people that only check IGN for example, are ignorant of its existence and the people checking meta critic look at a number that's scewed by the escapist. Hell has Gamespot made a review of Shadow Warrior yet?

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#27 Renevent42
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[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="m25105"] Lack of bribery.m25105

Honestly not seeing a lot of gamers talking about it either...

Because the game has not received the attention it deserved. Take IGN for example, still no review up. And the Escapist rated it 7/10, but if you read why you'll see that the reviewer is complaining about the levels being too hard to navigate and that the enemies too difficult, causing you to die and start from the last check point (clearly demonstrating that the reviewer didn't know or bothered to check for quick saves). So the people that only check IGN for example, are ignorant of its existence and the people checking meta critic look at a number that's scewed by the escapist. Hell has Gamespot made a review of Shadow Warrior yet?

I suppose that could have something to do with it...though the game has also garnered some good reviews too. I didn't read the Escapist review, but if those are the complaints the reviewer wasn't very good at all. Compared to Hard Reset, Shadow Warrior is a walk in the park. Also, while there is some room for minor exploration/secrets, the levels are fairly linear. How the reviewer got lost is a damn mystery lol.

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#28 m25105
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You can bet though that the next CoD game gets 9.0/10 average across the board by all the big reviewer sites, despite it being the exact same game over and over and over again. That's why I wrote lack of bribery. The smaller sites are giving Shadow Warrior the praise it's due as are the big youtube names.
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#29 m25105
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Looks like IGN finally did pick it up, they gave it 8,6 which is pretty good :)
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#30 uninspiredcup
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I hope this game doesn't flop in sales. It seems to have a bigger budget than Hard Reset but it didn't get to steams No1 sellers even on launch day which kinda sucks.

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Gonna wait till it gets a little lower in price before buying it. But I'm glad the developers managed to make another great game. That reminds me, I need to play Hard Reset soon. Miroku32

I guess I see Hard Reset and Serious Sam as similar  games.  I spent a whopping $3 to find out I don't really like Serious Sam 3.  So, if Serious Sam 3 and Hard Reset are similar?  And Hard Reset was made with some of the same developers as Shadow Warrior?  Is it safe to believe that I won't like Shadow Warrior if I didn't like Serious Sam 3?

I'm not trying to pick on any of these games.  I'm just pointing out SS3: BFE doesn't do it for me.  It was either that or Hard Reset during the Summer sale.  Perhaps I would've liked Hard Reset and really like Shadow Warrior.  Any validity to my comparisons here?

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#32 Renevent42
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[QUOTE="Miroku32"]Gonna wait till it gets a little lower in price before buying it. But I'm glad the developers managed to make another great game. That reminds me, I need to play Hard Reset soon. Fire_Wa11

I guess I see Hard Reset and Serious Sam as similar  games.  I spent a whopping $3 to find out I don't really like Serious Sam 3.  So, if Serious Sam 3 and Hard Reset are similar?  And Hard Reset was made with some of the same developers as Shadow Warrior?  Is it safe to believe that I won't like Shadow Warrior if I didn't like Serious Sam 3?

I'm not trying to pick on any of these games.  I'm just pointing out SS3: BFE doesn't do it for me.  It was either that or Hard Reset during the Summer sale.  Perhaps I would've liked Hard Reset and really like Shadow Warrior.  Any validity to my comparisons here?

What didn't you like about those games? I think that could kinda help guide you to determine if you may enjoy Shadow Warrior.
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I didn't play Hard Reset. During the Steam Summer Sale I w as going to get one or the other. I ended up getting Serious Sam 3. I didn't like it. So, my question is if I didn't like Serious Sam 3 does it stand to reason that I wouldn't like Hard Reset? And if it stands to reason that I wouldn't like Hard Reset based on the previous link in the ol' logic chain, does it stand to reason that I won't like Shadow Warrior?
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I didn't play Hard Reset. During the Steam Summer Sale I w as going to get one or the other. I ended up getting Serious Sam 3. I didn't like it. So, my question is if I didn't like Serious Sam 3 does it stand to reason that I wouldn't like Hard Reset? And if it stands to reason that I wouldn't like Hard Reset based on the previous link in the ol' logic chain, does it stand to reason that I won't like Shadow Warrior? Fire_Wa11
Could you explain what you didn't like about SS3?
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[QUOTE="Miroku32"]Gonna wait till it gets a little lower in price before buying it. But I'm glad the developers managed to make another great game. That reminds me, I need to play Hard Reset soon. Fire_Wa11

I guess I see Hard Reset and Serious Sam as similar  games.  I spent a whopping $3 to find out I don't really like Serious Sam 3.  So, if Serious Sam 3 and Hard Reset are similar?  And Hard Reset was made with some of the same developers as Shadow Warrior?  Is it safe to believe that I won't like Shadow Warrior if I didn't like Serious Sam 3?

I'm not trying to pick on any of these games.  I'm just pointing out SS3: BFE doesn't do it for me.  It was either that or Hard Reset during the Summer sale.  Perhaps I would've liked Hard Reset and really like Shadow Warrior.  Any validity to my comparisons here?

 

Hard Reset is a much better game than SS3. Play on Insane abd it's basically the Dark Souls of FPS. Very hard but fair.

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[QUOTE="Renevent42"]I have a Q6600/4GB Ram/570GTX and it runs very well...actually was pretty damned impressed with how well the game runs on my computer pretty much maxed out @ 1980X1050. Anyways game is fantastic...wild hog really outdid themselves this time.

see thats whats kind of bugging me. people with titans are reporting fps dips like what i get, but then others with hardware like yours or below perform even better.
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#37 Renevent42
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[QUOTE="REforever101"][QUOTE="Renevent42"]I have a Q6600/4GB Ram/570GTX and it runs very well...actually was pretty damned impressed with how well the game runs on my computer pretty much maxed out @ 1980X1050. Anyways game is fantastic...wild hog really outdid themselves this time.

see thats whats kind of bugging me. people with titans are reporting fps dips like what i get, but then others with hardware like yours or below perform even better.

I actually want to update my impressions on that...I beat the game this weekend and while the game was almost 100% smooth, there were like 3-4 areas that did give low frame rates. The 1st boss and maybe like 2 very specific arenas. Very strange because other than that the entire game ran extremely smooth.
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#38 deactivated-59d151f079814
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It is a fun game, im at chapter 10 and liking the game so far but I do feel like the melee combat could have been done a lot better.

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I have yet to see a game with good melee combat for a first person.. They usually tend to be too floaty and you have serious problems with judging distance between combatants and the range of your weapon..