Reinstalling an OEM on a new motherboard.

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#1 Fightingfan
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Long story short....

 

I had to buy a new mobo, and so I'm trying to install my previous version of windows - it's was/is an OEM disc.

Well turns out you can't install OEMs on new hardware(just learned that), but anyway just for the heck of it I tried to install it and when I get to "install windows" screen - you know where it ask "language, date, time" it automatically freezes. Is this normal?

 

Guess I'm gonna have to just go buy a retail copy of windows 7 if I can find one...

 

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#2 mastershake575
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I re-installed my copy of windows 7 64bit OEM and had no problems (I don't know where you heard that you can't re-install it).

I simply re-installed the software (disc) and then called microsoft support and got a new license key (they re-activated my copy of windows over the phone/gave me a new key without a single question asked).

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#3 Fightingfan
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With new hardware? I was told they won't provide the key. I guess I can try. It's late, gonna see how I can wipe my SSD and HDD clean via the bios and see if that fixes the problem.
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#4 Fightingfan
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I just don't get why it freezes constant upon booting up - same spot "language, time, date".
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#5 Fightingfan
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Thinking it could be a ram issue - gonna see if ram's not on right tomrrow.
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#6 mastershake575
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With new hardware? I was told they won't provide the key. I guess I can try. It's late, gonna see how I can wipe my SSD and HDD clean via the bios and see if that fixes the problem.Fightingfan
Yeah with new hardware (I replaced the motherboard and CPU).

All I did was reformat my harddrive (which is recommeneded for motherboard/CPU upgrades) and then installed my windows cd.

I called microsoft support using this method (click windows 7 under the resolution tab and the instruction are there http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950929/en-us ). I choose to speak to a representive and they gave me a new activation key (I've talked to some people with OEM software and they all had support give them keys without any questions asked). Its a common joke that they give out keys like hotcakes

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Could it be you don't have the right drivers installed? Check your BIOS to make sure everything is sane. I have had an OEM Win7 install, so that shouldn't be a problem. So long as you have the product key. Your freezing problems do not have anything to do with that. If you suspect RAM, try the built in RAM tester. Although, I tend to doubt that it is a hardware issue, but I wouldn't rule it out. >>>>It's late, gonna see how I can wipe my SSD and HDD clean via the bios and see if that fixes the problem. I really think you have not set up your hard drives correctly. Google for a tutorial about how to go through the install process. And follow the steps carefully.
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#10 Fightingfan
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Ram is good. CPU is good temp wise, mobo too. SSD and HDD should be fine as the mobo picks them up just fine. Still can't seem to past the "Language, time, input methods". Appears to freeze mouse and keyboard obviously work on bios so.... IDK...
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Could it be you don't have the right drivers installed? Check your BIOS to make sure everything is sane. I have had an OEM Win7 install, so that shouldn't be a problem. So long as you have the product key. Your freezing problems do not have anything to do with that. If you suspect RAM, try the built in RAM tester. Although, I tend to doubt that it is a hardware issue, but I wouldn't rule it out. >>>>It's late, gonna see how I can wipe my SSD and HDD clean via the bios and see if that fixes the problem. I really think you have not set up your hard drives correctly. Google for a tutorial about how to go through the install process. And follow the steps carefully.jcknapier711

There's no drivers installed when you're doing a clean install of Windows.

When there's RAM issues, the PC usually gets stuck in a reboot loop, while yours just freezes in the same spot.  Maybe it's an update issue?  try installing with the PC disconnected from the net.

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It's not connect to the internet.
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OEMs work. I've installed my Win7 OEM on 4 different CPU/Motherboard swaps. Worst case scenario, you will have to activate online, and it may require you to call the Microsoft automated number to manually activate it which takes less than 10 minutes. If it hangs during any part of the setup, it's usually just loading and you need to wait. Sometimes, very lengthy periods if you have an older computer. There was one time where I had the same issue as you, where it would just hang.. but I just kept on trying and trying, and it eventually passed the "freezing' part. It's usually loading and it may take a while.
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Long story short....

 

I had to buy a new mobo, and so I'm trying to install my previous version of windows - it's was/is an OEM disc.

Well turns out you can't install OEMs on new hardware(just learned that), but anyway just for the heck of it I tried to install it and when I get to "install windows" screen - you know where it ask "language, date, time" it automatically freezes. Is this normal?

 

Guess I'm gonna have to just go buy a retail copy of windows 7 if I can find one...

 

Fightingfan

I changed my CPU from a Phenom II X3 720BE to an FX-8350. I also changed the motherboard from a Gigabyte AM3 board to an ASUS AM3+ board. I used my existing Win 7 OEM install. After booting into Windows 7, I got the prompt to reactivate, pressed Okay....... Done.

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Long story short....

 

I had to buy a new mobo, and so I'm trying to install my previous version of windows - it's was/is an OEM disc.

Well turns out you can't install OEMs on new hardware(just learned that), but anyway just for the heck of it I tried to install it and when I get to "install windows" screen - you know where it ask "language, date, time" it automatically freezes. Is this normal?

 

Guess I'm gonna have to just go buy a retail copy of windows 7 if I can find one...

 

Fightingfan

You can call the microsoft number to get them to activate it with your new motherboard.

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#16 jcknapier711
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There's no drivers installed when you're doing a clean install of Windows.

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Windows has to install drivers before the installation to get the hard drives (and other things) to function... How are you going to install Windows onto a device it can't give instructions to?
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#17 jcknapier711
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]

Long story short....

 

I had to buy a new mobo, and so I'm trying to install my previous version of windows - it's was/is an OEM disc.

Well turns out you can't install OEMs on new hardware(just learned that), but anyway just for the heck of it I tried to install it and when I get to "install windows" screen - you know where it ask "language, date, time" it automatically freezes. Is this normal?

 

Guess I'm gonna have to just go buy a retail copy of windows 7 if I can find one...

 

GummiRaccoon

You can call the microsoft number to get them to activate it with your new motherboard.

This. I had just assumed the TC wanted to reinstall from scratch.
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#18 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]

Long story short....

 

I had to buy a new mobo, and so I'm trying to install my previous version of windows - it's was/is an OEM disc.

Well turns out you can't install OEMs on new hardware(just learned that), but anyway just for the heck of it I tried to install it and when I get to "install windows" screen - you know where it ask "language, date, time" it automatically freezes. Is this normal?

 

Guess I'm gonna have to just go buy a retail copy of windows 7 if I can find one...

 

jcknapier711

You can call the microsoft number to get them to activate it with your new motherboard.

This. I had just assumed the TC wanted to reinstall from scratch.

I am, well technically not scratch as the Hard drives are partitioned. Letting my buddy handle it - Im pretty sure the issue is with the SSD. Also Microsoft isn't legally required to "reactivate" OEM product codes, but it's no biggy to them to be honest. I have to call them up and just explain the situations, inform you guys later. Product codes(OEMs) are locked to the Mobo and CPU, and so if you change either part; technically you're legally required to buy a new product key.
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#19 Fightingfan
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OEMs work. I've installed my Win7 OEM on 4 different CPU/Motherboard swaps. Worst case scenario, you will have to activate online, and it may require you to call the Microsoft automated number to manually activate it which takes less than 10 minutes. If it hangs during any part of the setup, it's usually just loading and you need to wait. Sometimes, very lengthy periods if you have an older computer. There was one time where I had the same issue as you, where it would just hang.. but I just kept on trying and trying, and it eventually passed the "freezing' part. It's usually loading and it may take a while.Elann2008
That's what i kept doing retrying, but no luck. SSD so I shouldn't have to wait too long, but did a 15min wait and still nothing. My bud will figure it out and update me on it.
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[QUOTE="jcknapier711"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

You can call the microsoft number to get them to activate it with your new motherboard.

Fightingfan

This. I had just assumed the TC wanted to reinstall from scratch.

I am, well technically not scratch as the Hard drives are partitioned. Letting my buddy handle it - Im pretty sure the issue is with the SSD. Also Microsoft isn't legally required to "reactivate" OEM product codes, but it's no biggy to them to be honest. I have to call them up and just explain the situations, inform you guys later. Product codes(OEMs) are locked to the Mobo and CPU, and so if you change either part; technically you're legally required to buy a new product key.

You are also allowed to try and convince them to let you install it on a new motherboard.  Which they do constantly.

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[QUOTE="jcknapier711"]Could it be you don't have the right drivers installed? Check your BIOS to make sure everything is sane. I have had an OEM Win7 install, so that shouldn't be a problem. So long as you have the product key. Your freezing problems do not have anything to do with that. If you suspect RAM, try the built in RAM tester. Although, I tend to doubt that it is a hardware issue, but I wouldn't rule it out. >>>>It's late, gonna see how I can wipe my SSD and HDD clean via the bios and see if that fixes the problem. I really think you have not set up your hard drives correctly. Google for a tutorial about how to go through the install process. And follow the steps carefully.JimmyJumpy

There's no drivers installed when you're doing a clean install of Windows.

When there's RAM issues, the PC usually gets stuck in a reboot loop, while yours just freezes in the same spot.  Maybe it's an update issue?  try installing with the PC disconnected from the net.

Then nothing would work ever.

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[QUOTE="JimmyJumpy"]

[QUOTE="jcknapier711"]Could it be you don't have the right drivers installed? Check your BIOS to make sure everything is sane. I have had an OEM Win7 install, so that shouldn't be a problem. So long as you have the product key. Your freezing problems do not have anything to do with that. If you suspect RAM, try the built in RAM tester. Although, I tend to doubt that it is a hardware issue, but I wouldn't rule it out. >>>>It's late, gonna see how I can wipe my SSD and HDD clean via the bios and see if that fixes the problem. I really think you have not set up your hard drives correctly. Google for a tutorial about how to go through the install process. And follow the steps carefully.GummiRaccoon

There's no drivers installed when you're doing a clean install of Windows.

When there's RAM issues, the PC usually gets stuck in a reboot loop, while yours just freezes in the same spot.  Maybe it's an update issue?  try installing with the PC disconnected from the net.

Then nothing would work ever.

Now what kind of stupid remark is that?

A fresh install means the hard drive is empty.  You install your OS and *then* your drivers, i.e. what comes with the mobo, sound card, GPU, etc. ...

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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="JimmyJumpy"]

There's no drivers installed when you're doing a clean install of Windows.

When there's RAM issues, the PC usually gets stuck in a reboot loop, while yours just freezes in the same spot.  Maybe it's an update issue?  try installing with the PC disconnected from the net.

JimmyJumpy

Then nothing would work ever.

Now what kind of stupid remark is that?

A fresh install means the hard drive is empty.  You install your OS and *then* your drivers, i.e. what comes with the mobo, sound card, GPU, etc. ...

Understanding of computers status = minus one

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#24 JimmyJumpy
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[QUOTE="JimmyJumpy"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Then nothing would work ever.

GummiRaccoon

Now what kind of stupid remark is that?

A fresh install means the hard drive is empty.  You install your OS and *then* your drivers, i.e. what comes with the mobo, sound card, GPU, etc. ...

Understanding of computers status = minus one

Seemingly still one better than you :P

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#25 GummiRaccoon
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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="JimmyJumpy"]

Now what kind of stupid remark is that?

A fresh install means the hard drive is empty.  You install your OS and *then* your drivers, i.e. what comes with the mobo, sound card, GPU, etc. ...

JimmyJumpy

Understanding of computers status = minus one

Seemingly still one better than you :P

I'm choosing to believe that you are trolling and not just as clueless as you are presenting yourself as.

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*Face palm* My issue was I was connecting my keyboard and mouse into my USB 3.0. Pretty much my entire motherboard only has usb 3.0 and only 1-2 usb 2.0. Can't recognize until windows is installed...
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*Face palm* My issue was I was connecting my keyboard and mouse into my USB 3.0. Pretty much my entire motherboard only has usb 3.0 and only 1-2 usb 2.0. Can't recognize until windows is installed... Fightingfan

Yup, that'll do it. The fact that you're running an OEM copy of Windows only affects activation. Any other symptom you experience trying to install Windows will be unrelated to your OEM copy.

While MS is not required to reset your activiation, they are generally pretty lenient about that sort of thing if you call them up and give them a reasonable explanation. The only real distinction between an OEM and Retail copy of Windows is that the OEMs come with fewer activiations on distinct hardware (all versions have unlimited activiations on the same hardware).

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[QUOTE="JimmyJumpy"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Understanding of computers status = minus one

GummiRaccoon

Seemingly still one better than you :P

I'm choosing to believe that you are trolling and not just as clueless as you are presenting yourself as.

I think he's probably that clueless.

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