Raptor vs ordinary

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#1 thesimpsons2
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Hi

What is the main difference apart from price on the WD Raptor drives. They are so expensive and you don't get as much capacity for the price.

My friend said that they are barely different from normal S-ATA drives and are a rip off.

What do you think.

Thanks

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#2 ch5richards
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What you get with a Raptor is more heat and more noise and slightly faster load times.  Now I do not own one because everytime I asked I basically got that answer and decided it's not worth it.
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#3 jachichorro
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WD Raptor drives have smaller capacity, but are much faster (10.000RPM), louder, warmer and their interface is only SATA150 as opposed to what you see on current 7.200RPM drives, which are SATA300 (theoretically faster interface). A small Raptor drive is good for installing the OS coupled with larger 7.2kRPM drives for storage, or if you can afford, a larger Raptor drive (or even two in RAID0 -- insane!) for your OS+games and another larger 7.2kRPM for music, photos, etc.
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#4 thesimpsons2
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Ok, thanks very much.
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#5 Funkyhamster
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It seems to me like size matters in loading the OS more than speed, for whatever reason - I moved from a 40GB to 250GB HDD, and XP loaded in 10 seconds instead of 5 minutes. :|
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#6 jachichorro
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It seems to me like size matters in loading the OS more than speed, for whatever reason - I moved from a 40GB to 250GB HDD, and XP loaded in 10 seconds instead of 5 minutes. :|Funkyhamster

What are the cache, interface type, spinning speed and latency of the two drives? 

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#7 K_r_a_u_s_e_r
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I've got two 150 GB Raptors, they aren't much louder or warmer than regular hard disks. Surprisingly performance is noticed, I enjoy them and would recommend them. I have a 36 GB Raptor in my 2003 Server too, very nice.
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#9 K_r_a_u_s_e_r
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Oh my, you're right that's so HOT! It runs much cooler than my 3.66 GHz Quad-Core.

Hot Stuff In Here

I get more FPS on a Raptor then any other hard disk I've tried, I think you're a bit jealous. Run louder? Sure, but who cares I've got 4 50-60 dba fans anyways, I'll be surprised to even hear it.

Black = HDD.
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#10 jobano
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Raptors look nice on pen and paper, but I'd probably only get a 36GB one to use for my OS. They seem pretty expensive.
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#11 LordEC911
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Oh my, you're right that's so HOT! It runs much cooler than my 3.66 GHz Quad-Core.

Hot Stuff In Here

I get more FPS on a Raptor then any other hard I've tried, I think you're a bit jealous. Run louder? Sure, but who cares I've got 4 50-60 dba fans anyways, I'll be surprised to even hear it.

Black = HDD.
K_r_a_u_s_e_r

Raptors are not going to increase FPS...
Yes, they do run hotter then other HDs...
Yes, they are louder then other HDs...

You may not care about any of that but some people do.
Also, not many people have the money to spend a few dollars per gigabyte of storage and with you stretching the truth a bit about their actual benefits, I felt compelled to post facts in this thread.

All OEM:

Raptors-
$100 36gb = $2.78 per gb
$140 74gb = $1.89 per gb
$170 150gb = $0.88 per gb

WD/Seagate-
$75 250gb $0.33 per gb
$90 320gb $0.28 per gb 

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#12 K_r_a_u_s_e_r
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Raptors are not going to increase FPS...
Yes, they do run hotter then other HDs...
Yes, they are louder then other HDs...

LordEC911


That's where you're wrong, they do increase FPS, you don't even own one.
They run cool enough from my side, 26C is just perfect.
You're right, they're louder but if you're a serious overclocker or are running a server this sound shouldn't phase you at the slightest.
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#13 LordEC911
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[QUOTE="LordEC911"]

Raptors are not going to increase FPS...
Yes, they do run hotter then other HDs...
Yes, they are louder then other HDs...

K_r_a_u_s_e_r



That's where you're wrong, they do increase FPS, you don't even own one.
They run cool enough from my side, 26C is just perfect.
You're right, they're louder but if you're a serious overclocker or are running a server this sound shouldn't phase you at the slightest.

I am a serious overclocker and am concerned about how loud my system is.

No, I do not own one, since I obviously buy the best bang for the buck, but plently of benchmarks have been done. Anyways, using common sense, you can easily figure out that the HD does not have an impact on FPS, enough to be measurable.  

Instead of just outright arguing with me, why not try to disprove me? Maybe becuase you can't.... 

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#14 K_r_a_u_s_e_r
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All your benchmarks are is how "loud" or how "warm" the hard drive is, nothing which shows how well a certain hard drive performs in set game. Of course! I'll go out and buy a random SATA drive just to prove someone who doesn't know what they're talking about right which in turn hasn't even proved me wrong - not only that but doesn't even own set hard drive that he bases all his arguments around. Funny stuff, am I right?
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#15 LordEC911
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All your benchmarks are is how "loud" or how "warm" the hard drive is, nothing which shows how well a certain hard drive performs in set game. Of course! I'll go out and buy a random SATA drive just to prove someone who doesn't know what they're talking about right which in turn hasn't even proved me wrong - not only that but doesn't even own set hard drive that he bases all his arguments around. Funny stuff, am I right?K_r_a_u_s_e_r

Wait.... If you haven't tested it out, why are you arguing that it increases FPS?

How do you know that? Did you read it on the intraweb? 

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#16 HostileEffect
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IIRC, faster hard drives have shorter life spans...

Fast HDDs = Noise and heat unless you go SSD
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#19 jobano
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I do believe both of you need to relax.