Pascal Titan X revealed

• 12-billion transistors
• 11 TFLOPs FP32 (32-bit floating point)
• 44 TOPS INT8
• 3,584 CUDA cores at 1.53GHz (versus 3,072 CUDA cores at 1.08GHz in previous TITAN X)
• High performance engineering for maximum overclocking
• 12GB of GDDR5X memory (480GB/s)

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$1200 and biggest GPU ever created!

I'm hugely disappointed there's no HBM2 but curious to see how they compare to my Titan X's at 1.5GHz.

250w with 1 8pin and 1 6pin could make it an ace overclocker though, we'll find out on Aug 2

So only modest 1500€+ here, bargain

I'll wait for mumblings of the Ti, flip my card, and wait :p

This is very strange.

It will come too early.

These specs leave almost no space for a GTX1080Ti.

I actually expected this to be the GTX1080Ti and a full fat Pascal GP102/GP100 with 16GB HBM2 to be the TitanX Pascal.

What will happen with GTX1080Ti? 3328 cores clocked below 1500MHz (since Pascal Titan will be 1531MHz boost) and 12GB VRAM again?

One thing is sure, this will sell like hotcakes...

And GTX1080 sales will slow down a bit.

@klunt_bumskrint: @Coseniath: do you mean this gen the Ti will not be 20℅ faster?

I also thought about 1080Ti and most certainly Titan will have HBM2...

Maybe the salvation will come this time by AMD?

@PredatorRules: I mean that in this generation, we might not see a Ti.

Not at least till AMD creates something more powerful (at least 10-15%) than GTX1080.

Why to create a cheaper GPU ($800 and $900FE?) when there is no competition in this performance level, while you can make everyone who aims this high to just go and buy a Pascal Titan ($1200)?

God, we need AMD back in high end market...

edit:

1. AMD said its going to release Vega in October.

2. The GTX780 arrived 3 months after the Titan.

3. The GTX980ti arrived 3 months after the Titan-X

4. Titan X pascal will arrive in the begining of August.

5. GTX1080Ti?

6. ?????

7. Profit.

:P

I wonder if we might get something like a Titan P at the start of next year with 16Gb HBM2 etc, then maybe once the dust has settled a 1080ti that might have similar performance to this but cheaper, maybe only 8G vram.

My guess is 1080 Ti will be exact same Titan just with 8GB instead of 12GB.

This is floating as a rumor on the web, that Titan X will be replaced by Titan P with 16GB HBM2, but its just a rumor...

This is kinda difficult cause they will need lower or raise the VRAM bandwidth.

Doing 256bit 8GB 10GHz GDDR5X like GTX1080 will limit the GPU.

There was an other suggestion that I read, talking about 3328 cores and 10GB 320bit 10GHz GDDR5X (400GB/s).

This seems more reasonable way to limit a bit the total VRAM and not cripple so much the bandwidth.

That seems pretty reasonable but 320 bit sounds a little odd. maybe they'll use 384 bit.

This card is only ~30% more powerful than a GTX 1080. With the odd memory configuration, the new Titan X not being a full GP102 GPU, and that low power difference between it and the 1080, I'm going to go ahead and say that their will NOT be a 1080 Ti in this line-up.

We will see a redo of the Kepler series in terms of GPU releases. Next year we will see;

• A slightly modified version of the 1070 will become the GTX 1160 (or 1160 Ti).
• A slightly modified version of the 1080 will become the GTX 1170.
• A slightly modified version of this Titan X will become the GTX 1180.
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• A new Titan will be released in the first half of 2017 with an updated full GP102 (or GP100) chip and 16GBs of HBM 2.0 memory.
• A cutdown version of that "2017" Titan will be released as the GTX 1180 Ti. 12GBs of HBM 2.0 memory?

Nvidia has this habit of using odd bandwidth.

And I have the habit to buy every odd bandwidth VRAM Nvidia has. xD

8800GTS 320MB, 320bit.

GTX275 896MB, 448bit.

GTX570 1280MB, 320bit.

And the first card that I bought and I thought it will not have odd VRAM: GTX970, which after a couple of days that I order it, they found about 224bit+32bit xD.

Should I warn people for the next card I will buy? lol

ps: I am pretty sure, that if I would cancel my order for G1 GTX970 (I didn't even pay yet, I could easily cancel it), the universe would recreate the spacetime continuum and GTX970 would have the same ROPs and the same memory configure as GTX980. (256bit, 64 ROPs).

@Coseniath: I know that they have that habit. I didn't have those cards myself, I had GTX 260 and GTX 560 Ti instead.

GTX 970 doesn't have odd bus though.. It's a 256 bit card with 224GB/s + 32GB/s bandwidth. I think if a 1080 Ti comes it'll be a 384 bit.

Too much money. I don't care who they are targeting. That level of performance does not justify the cost. If it was over 50% more performance than the 1080, then I would consider it. The price gouging has to stop. All the cards are going up in price this generation. AMD really need to step it up to keep Nvidia in check.

These specs were expected for 1080Ti, not Titan.

I don't think we will see a Ti version this generaiton. Perhaps with Pascal 2XX

@horgen: I have the same thoughts.

Unless AMD replies with something really strong in October with far lower price that will force Nvidia to take action like they did with GTX780Ti.

Yup. A very odd set of spec's indeed. I'm with you. Looks like there won't be a Ti this generation. Even if it does release in some form, I doubt the performance vs price when compared to a flat 1080 just isn't going to justify it. Ugh...this may be a long wait until Volta. >.<

I seriously hope so, the new titan is going to be 1500-1600€ here, can grab sli 1080 for that much

Why not wait? Pascal is according to some just Maxwell on steroids.

Doubt it will happen, and it would be wiser for nVidia to lower the price of their current cards... There is no room really for a 1080Ti.

Oh I'll wait. I was looking forward to a 1080Ti, but if there isn't one, looks like I'm in it for the long haul and wait for a "proper" (money wise for me anyways) upgrade to SLI 980Ti's. I just hope that doesn't mean waiting until 2018. With 1080's just hitting the market not long ago, a 1180 seems more like a probably upgrade time for me without a 1080Ti. And I'm horrible at waiting...lol.

@joseph_mach: Moneywise I don't think there is a good upgrade for you. Not with first gen Pascal at least.

Not embracing HBM is strange. The advantages it affords in lower power requirements and heat output would be especially attractive for the high-end boards, especially as those boost clock speeds start to creep up on the same frequencies that are normally found on CPUs. I wonder if there is a Titan X Black Edition in the future with HBM2.

Im slightly tempted to sell my 2 1080s and get a Titan. But I need to stop being impulsive and just enjoy my setup!

And it only has 12GB RAM, just like Maxwell Titan X. Nor is it the full chip in use either.

Could be a new Titan when the 11XX lineup launches. With HBM2... Or we have to wait for Volta for that.

NVIDIA Accelerates Volta to May 2017? From TechpowerUp xD

It seems Nvidia is in rush for this:

I think 1080's price will fall since it will no longer be world's best performer money can buy.

I don't know, it seems they have a use for the full GP102 but not for a lighter than Titan GP102:

NVIDIA Launches Maxed-out GP102 Based Quadro P6000

The new Quadro P6000, announced at SIGGRAPH alongside the GP104-based Quadro P5000, features all 3,840 CUDA cores physically present on the chip.

Besides 3,840 CUDA cores, the P6000 features a maximum FP32 (single-precision floating point) performance of up to 12 TFLOP/s. The card also features 24 GB of GDDR5X memory, across the chip's 384-bit wide memory interface.

So who knows? Maybe afterall we will see a 3328 cores GTX1080Ti...

@Coseniath: The 1080 won't be cheaper until it has competition from AMD.

I am not saying that Nvidia will cut prices, I just think, prices will go more to the Nvidia MSRP price ($599) than the price they are now.

Ah. Well they need to cut prices in order for it to affect the prices here in Norway.

Same crap applies to all EU stores. :(

@Coseniath: Well you don't have to pay more for 1060 than you had for 970 when it was released, right?

@horgen: Yes and no.

The prices vary a lot. I can found GTX1060 from 300 euros up to 450 euros. Oo

I payed 400 euro for G1 970, cause back then, the dollar was rising against euro. Otherwise it was like 370 euros for the Gigabyte G1 970.

@Coseniath: In Norway the 1060 has replaced the 970 in terms of pricing. Pretty spot on actually. They are from 2800kr to 3500kr(300-370 euros )or so... Or 3800kr(400 euros) I think. Cheapest 1070 starts at 4500kr(475 euros) I think... That's what I paid for my 680 in 2012.

@horgen: GTX1070 is an other story. Without any competition from AMD, GTX1070 prices are skyrocketted...

I can't even imagine how much Titan X Pascal (probably not even Vega would be able to counter it...) will cost in EU.

An arm and a leg I'm guessing.

Those 1200$ for it in American prices... It's a steal for us :P