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#1 lezdeppelin1249
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Anyone els curious on what happened to all the hype about the gaming service Onlive?

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#2 PSfanboy101
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Onlive is just a Steam dressed up in a shell and its gonna turn to be the phantom 2
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#3 jedinat
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Onlive is just a Steam dressed up in a shell and its gonna turn to be the phantom 2PSfanboy101
Hardly. Steam just distributes games. Onlive is supposed to run them for you.
If it works out--that'll be great. But some reason that it just can't work, since the hardware toll on this service would be immense.
MMORPGs cover their server costs with monthly fees--I'm sure it takes a lot of the computing power to keep track of where everyone is and what's happening and all that, but all the rendering--the powerful video cards, gigs of RAM that are needed to run high textured/detailed games these days is all done on individual PCs. I would think the individual player load of rendering a game is many more times intensive than the bits moving to and from the server maintaining what the player is doing. So given the costs need to cover (or profit) MMO costs, what kind of costs would be involved in maintaining Onlive?

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#4 FelipeInside
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Anyone els curious on what happened to all the hype about the gaming service Onlive?

lezdeppelin1249
That was all it was, hype. I said it would fail....and it will....
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#5 Squeets
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The beta is out soon right? We will know how it runs for actual consumers soon enough (though I am almost certain it will fail)... even a fraction of a second delay from the server side to the consumer will make the games unplayable... that coupled with the fact that internet outages mean you can't play...

I don't get where those guys got investment capitol from... there are just so many little things that can make the entire thing fail...

I think once everything is said and done, there will be a lot of people suing (investors) and a lot of people filing bankruptcy (OnLive Devs/Corporate officials)... It won't be pretty...

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#6 Cobacel
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It will fail because i don't see that technologie yet !

Think about it . NO LAG ? it's impossible due to many people having cheaps and slow internet! Those people would slow the network of ONLIVE imediatly !

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The beta is out soon right? We will know how it runs for actual consumers soon enough (though I am almost certain it will fail)... even a fraction of a second delay from the server side to the consumer will make the games unplayable... that coupled with the fact that internet outages mean you can't play...

I don't get where those guys got investment capitol from... there are just so many little things that can make the entire thing fail...

I think once everything is said and done, there will be a lot of people suing (investors) and a lot of people filing bankruptcy (OnLive Devs/Corporate officials)... It won't be pretty...

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lol I highly doubt there will be people suiing investors. Little over exaggerated. But I do think this will fail would be cool if it didn't though.
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Anyone els curious on what happened to all the hype about the gaming service Onlive?

lezdeppelin1249
It died, because everyone realised three things. 1) It is just an expensive rental service. 2) It'll probably never even come out. 3) If it DOES come out, and people buy games and what not from it, when it inevitably fails, those people will have lost a lot of money with nothing to show for it.
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#9 Squeets
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[QUOTE="Squeets"]

The beta is out soon right? We will know how it runs for actual consumers soon enough (though I am almost certain it will fail)... even a fraction of a second delay from the server side to the consumer will make the games unplayable... that coupled with the fact that internet outages mean you can't play...

I don't get where those guys got investment capitol from... there are just so many little things that can make the entire thing fail...

I think once everything is said and done, there will be a lot of people suing (investors) and a lot of people filing bankruptcy (OnLive Devs/Corporate officials)... It won't be pretty...

blade55555

lol I highly doubt there will be people suiing investors. Little over exaggerated. But I do think this will fail would be cool if it didn't though.

I said the investors WOULD be suing... (the OnLive devs and/or Corporate officials)... and those OnLive guys would be filing bankruptcy?

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#10 blade55555
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[QUOTE="blade55555"][QUOTE="Squeets"]

The beta is out soon right? We will know how it runs for actual consumers soon enough (though I am almost certain it will fail)... even a fraction of a second delay from the server side to the consumer will make the games unplayable... that coupled with the fact that internet outages mean you can't play...

I don't get where those guys got investment capitol from... there are just so many little things that can make the entire thing fail...

I think once everything is said and done, there will be a lot of people suing (investors) and a lot of people filing bankruptcy (OnLive Devs/Corporate officials)... It won't be pretty...

Squeets

lol I highly doubt there will be people suiing investors. Little over exaggerated. But I do think this will fail would be cool if it didn't though.

I said the investors WOULD be suing... (the OnLive devs and/or Corporate officials)... and those OnLive guys would be filing bankruptcy?

either way I doubt there will be any suing.
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#11 rmfd341
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OnLive will suck. It's not possible to do what they were promising..
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#12 X360PS3AMD05
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This was what i heard before i stopped listening ........."from the creators of WebTV".....
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#13 IMaBIOHAZARD
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Just read this article. It should tell you everything you need to know.

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#15 Squeets
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[QUOTE="Squeets"]

[QUOTE="blade55555"] lol I highly doubt there will be people suiing investors. Little over exaggerated. But I do think this will fail would be cool if it didn't though.blade55555

I said the investors WOULD be suing... (the OnLive devs and/or Corporate officials)... and those OnLive guys would be filing bankruptcy?

either way I doubt there will be any suing.

So if you invested millions of dollars into OnLive and it failed miserably and you saw no return... you would just ride off loosing millions of dollars and say "That's alright... you guys tried."... I doubt that would be the case...

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#16 General_X
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Just read this article. It should tell you everything you need to know.

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Thanks for the article, that is exactly the stuff I was saying when it was announced and now I have an official source to prove it.
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#17 supermeat77
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the tech problems are too much. don't hold your breath
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720p? I dont need to tell you where to shove it.

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it does not scale, sure they may be able to get acceptable performance and quality for one user, but . Let us see them try a few hundred simultaneously, not to mention a few thousand.
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#20 Squeets
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Just read this article. It should tell you everything you need to know.

IMaBIOHAZARD

That article sums it up nicely...

"The only way OnLive can work:

  • 1. OnLive has mastered video compression that outstrips the best that current technologies can achieve by a vast margin. In short, it has outsmarted the smartest compressionists in the world, and not only that, it's doing it in real-time.
  • 2. OnLive's unparalleled grasp of psychophysics means that it has all but eliminated the concept of IP lag during its seven years of "stealth development", succeeding where the best minds in the business have only met with limited success.
  • 3. OnLive has developed a range of affordable PC-compatible super-computers and hardware video encoders that are generations beyond anything on the market at the moment.

"

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#21 FelipeInside
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AND WHO WANTS TO PLAY GAMES at 1280x800 ANYWAY..... (caps)
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AND WHO WANTS TO PLAY GAMES at 1280x800 ANYWAY..... (caps)FelipeInside
That's my laptop max resolution, I wouldn't mind. :D
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]AND WHO WANTS TO PLAY GAMES at 1280x800 ANYWAY..... (caps)-D3ATH-
That's my laptop max resolution, I wouldn't mind. :D

ok ok.... WHO ELSE APART FROM -D3ATH-.....lol
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#24 blade55555
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[QUOTE="blade55555"][QUOTE="Squeets"]

I said the investors WOULD be suing... (the OnLive devs and/or Corporate officials)... and those OnLive guys would be filing bankruptcy?

Squeets

either way I doubt there will be any suing.

So if you invested millions of dollars into OnLive and it failed miserably and you saw no return... you would just ride off loosing millions of dollars and say "That's alright... you guys tried."... I doubt that would be the case...

They wont' be able to sue its their fault for investing in a hopeless case then. They can't sue because it didn't work out the way they hoped. Doesn't work like that.
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#25 Squeets
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[QUOTE="Squeets"]

[QUOTE="blade55555"] either way I doubt there will be any suing. blade55555

So if you invested millions of dollars into OnLive and it failed miserably and you saw no return... you would just ride off loosing millions of dollars and say "That's alright... you guys tried."... I doubt that would be the case...

They wont' be able to sue its their fault for investing in a hopeless case then. They can't sue because it didn't work out the way they hoped. Doesn't work like that.

Um... investing in a business isn't the same as investing in the stock market... they are two completely different things... How do you think people open restaurants? They get money from banks in the form of loans (the bank is investing money and the person promises to pay it back)... The bank gives them the money and the person signs a contract that says "once we are in business, I will repay the loan with 15% interest over the coarse of 15 years (or some amount of time)..." it is the same thing for small businesses not getting loans from banks... they find investors and sign some contracts... the business says "you give me $100,000 and once we become incorporated, I promise a 200% ROI (Return On Investment) meaning you get $200,000 back..." they shake hands and sign some contracts... failing to return the $200,000 means they breach the contract... and thus they go to court and sue over the money...

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#26 Astaroth2k
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In reality though with the way fractional reserve banking works...the bank doesn't give you any money when you take out a loan,best con artists ever.