Metro Last Light.....AWESOME!

I mean, that intro cinematic is something else.  Worth my $49 dollars right there.  Being able to change the resolution to a playable state without it crashing would be nice, but hey, I guess I can't have my cake and eat it too.  Best launch ever seen.  Way to test your game before releasing it, devs.

You have amd or nvidia?GamingVengeance

Does this game have the frame dropping DoF like in Metro 2033?

I disabled that in 2033 and got a huge boost to frame rate.

Besides the DoF in that game looked pretty bad when it was noticeable.

Finally got it working after unplugging my TV from my card, but the game stutters so bad that it's not enjoyable playing it.  I'm using Nvidia's new beta drivers too.  I'm getting 60+ framerates  and have tried all combinations but it doesn't stop the stuttering, which can freeze the game for half a second every 5-10 seconds at least.  It seems to me it's just poorly optimized.  I think I'm going to try for a refund on this one.

what.... i cant play it till the 16th..:(

*sigh*

Constant drops.  Found some advice on the web, but I don't know how to do this:

By changing r_api # n in %APPDATA%\Local\4AGames\Metro LL\(numbers)\user.cfg to 0, 1, or 2 you can switch between Direct X 9, 10, and 11 modes respectively.  DirectX 9 and 10 do not have access to the tesselation option, but there is a significant framerate increase from switching to DX 9, so if you are playing on lower end DX 10/11 hardware switching may give you a much needed framerate increase.  I noticed that DirectX 9 mode caused minor loading stutters throughout the game world, most noticeable in the underground metros.

I've tried in DX 10 and 11 and still have stutters with Physx off, but figure 9 is worth a shot. 

*sigh*

Constant drops.  Found some advice on the web, but I don't know how to do this:

By changing r_api # n in %APPDATA%\Local\4AGames\Metro LL\(numbers)\user.cfg to 0, 1, or 2 you can switch between Direct X 9, 10, and 11 modes respectively.  DirectX 9 and 10 do not have access to the tesselation option, but there is a significant framerate increase from switching to DX 9, so if you are playing on lower end DX 10/11 hardware switching may give you a much needed framerate increase.  I noticed that DirectX 9 mode caused minor loading stutters throughout the game world, most noticeable in the underground metros.

I've tried in DX 10 and 11 and still have stutters with Physx off, but figure 9 is worth a shot. 

MirkoS77

windows button, search bar, type in " %appdata%" and then go into the local file folder. You should be able to take it from there.Elann2008

[QUOTE="Elann2008"]windows button, search bar, type in " %appdata%" and then go into the local file folder. You should be able to take it from there.ShadowJax04

[QUOTE="ShadowJax04"][QUOTE="Elann2008"]windows button, search bar, type in " %appdata%" and then go into the local file folder. You should be able to take it from there.Elann2008

[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

[QUOTE="ShadowJax04"] His computer needs to allow hidden folders, then windows button > user > appdata.ShadowJax04

I've heard so many people complain of glitches, shadow problems, crashes and not being able to change resolution. Yet my game has worked flawlessly so far, it also runs incredibly well

Same with me sean, no crashes, the FPS has been great and it looks amazing to.

55-65 fps, has yet to go below 55 for me. Have everythign cranked up except SSAA (which reminds me of ubersampling, and doent looks any better, jsut system hog).

The only people ive heard complaining so far are people who don't have a nvidia card.

Same with me sean, no crashes, the FPS has been great and it looks amazing to.

 

55-65 fps, has yet to go below 55 for me. Have everythign cranked up except SSAA (which reminds me of ubersampling, and doent looks any better, jsut system hog).

The only people ive heard complaining so far are people who don't have a nvidia card.

kozzy1234

SSAA is ubersampling basically. It renders the game at a higher res and then downsamples it to your chosen resolution. 

Honestly their auto AA that's always on does a fantastic job anyway and I have SSAA off and still can't see jaggies. Like at all. 

I am extremely happy with how the game runs, couldn't have asked for better really. 

I've heard so many people complain of glitches, shadow problems, crashes and not being able to change resolution. Yet my game has worked flawlessly so far, it also runs incredibly well

seanmcloughlin

Same with me sean, no crashes, the FPS has been great and it looks amazing to.

 

55-65 fps, has yet to go below 55 for me. Have everythign cranked up except SSAA (which reminds me of ubersampling, and doent looks any better, jsut system hog).

The only people ive heard complaining so far are people who don't have a nvidia card.

kozzy1234

Between the ridiculous frame rate drops and the constant shadow flickering this may be one of the most unoptimized launches I've been a part of. Maybe it my AMD card, but still, the game should not perform this poorly on any card. I really wish this game ran flawlessly, it's been really good so far.Toxic-Seahorse

I am sorry to hear man. It's definitely an AMD-issue. The issues I've mentioned like shadow flickering has been an ongoing thing for the past few driver releases, and not only in Metro LL. LL runs smooth on my GTX 670.

As a matter of fact, I was surprised how well it ran, with the graphics look much better than Metro 2033, with everything on very high like tessellation and advanced physX. Like Sean said, it has a default AAA/FXAA that cannot be disabled, so I don't even need SSAA. I don't see any jaggies at all.

4A Games and Nvidia need to do the good deed and "bust" a Square Enix/Crystal Dynamics on this one and optimize Metro LL for AMD users.  Crystal Dynamics, a long time AMD partner (10+years), did an excellent job for AMD, but produced the same optimization for Nvidia users as well.  

I noticed a small download of 9.6mb or so, this morning. Not sure what that did but it isn't anything worth noting.

Anyone try it with a 6970? Metro 2033 ran kinda bad on it. Games seem very unoptimized

Extremely happy with how well it is running on on nvidia card, expected the FPS to be alot lowe and more all ove the place, but its very good the first 5 hours for me.

Between the ridiculous frame rate drops and the constant shadow flickering this may be one of the most unoptimized launches I've been a part of. Maybe it my AMD card, but still, the game should not perform this poorly on any card. I really wish this game ran flawlessly, it's been really good so far.Toxic-Seahorse

Yep, the AMD cards are having widespread issuea with the game. Which kind of sucks really. 

Extremely happy with how well it is running on on nvidia card, expected the FPS to be alot lowe and more all ove the place, but its very good the first 5 hours for me.

kozzy1234

FPS drops seem to get worse as the game goes on for me. I was in a spot when looking ahead I got 80 FPS and turning around it shot down to 9 FPS, despite me staring directly at a wall. The shadow flickering is still just as common. I really hope we get a patch or driver update to fix this.

[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"]Between the ridiculous frame rate drops and the constant shadow flickering this may be one of the most unoptimized launches I've been a part of. Maybe it my AMD card, but still, the game should not perform this poorly on any card. I really wish this game ran flawlessly, it's been really good so far.seanmcloughlin

Yep, the AMD cards are having widespread issuea with the game. Which kind of sucks really. 

Has AMD released drivers that support the game?

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"]Between the ridiculous frame rate drops and the constant shadow flickering this may be one of the most unoptimized launches I've been a part of. Maybe it my AMD card, but still, the game should not perform this poorly on any card. I really wish this game ran flawlessly, it's been really good so far.lostrib

Yep, the AMD cards are having widespread issuea with the game. Which kind of sucks really. 

Has AMD released drivers that support the game?

Nope, nvidia released day one drivers for metro, none yet for amd, i hope they get some up soon for those that don't have a nvidia card.

I'm shocked at how well this game is running for you guys, and I mean both Nvidia and AMD users.

Nvidia=Good

AMD=Bad(so far)

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"]Between the ridiculous frame rate drops and the constant shadow flickering this may be one of the most unoptimized launches I've been a part of. Maybe it my AMD card, but still, the game should not perform this poorly on any card. I really wish this game ran flawlessly, it's been really good so far.lostrib

Yep, the AMD cards are having widespread issuea with the game. Which kind of sucks really. 

Has AMD released drivers that support the game?

Either that or it's a conspiracy by Nividia using 4A and Metro Last Light to make AMD cards look worse. :P

Just to be clear that was a joke.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Yep, the AMD cards are having widespread issuea with the game. Which kind of sucks really. 

Toxic-Seahorse

Has AMD released drivers that support the game?

Either that or it's a conspiracy by Nividia using 4A and Metro Last Light to make AMD cards look worse. :P

Just to be clear that was a joke.

well, Nvidia released new beta drivers before launch of the game

Am surprised at how well my single GTX 670 can run High with 4x AF, ehnanced PhysX and medium tesselation + control planet anti-alias set at 4X. This game is a real treat, perhaps even moreso because I did not play the first game and this seems like an intruiging and polished experience.

Am currently at the Nazi rally and so far so good, not regretting this purchase at all. Can't say for sure if the gameplay will stick out in the long run but will find out in the days ahead.

*rename legal.ogv to legalold.ogv  or simply delete it in your folder to permanently remove the unskippable intro.

*double edit: the gunplay is very satisfying compared to bioshock: infinite, lining up headshots is more fun and guns have actual upgrades instead of +damage.

I didn't realize things were as bad as they are for AMD users, I heard somewhere that turning of Physx (maybe tesselation in game? I think there is a physics option in the "game options" menu) but it sounds even worse than that. 

I can sympathise having endured the RAGE launch with an ATI card. 

I have nothing against AMD but i'm glad I went with Nvidia with my latest purchase. 

I personally experienced pretty good performance, drops into the low 30's in a couple of sequences but usually in the 50-80fps range on very high with no SSAA and normal tesselation/motion blur at 1080p. 

Not the best performance ever (certainly not as good as Crysis 3) but totally acceptable given how good the game looks. 

I didn't realize things were as bad as they are for AMD users, I heard somewhere that turning of Physx (maybe tesselation in game? I think there is a physics option in the "game options" menu) but it sounds even worse than that. 

I can sympathise having endured the RAGE launch with an ATI card. 

I have nothing against AMD but i'm glad I went with Nvidia with my latest purchase. 

I personally experienced pretty good performance, drops into the low 30's in a couple of sequences but usually in the 50-80fps range on very high with no SSAA and normal tesselation/motion blur at 1080p. 

Not the best performance ever (certainly not as good as Crysis 3) but totally acceptable given how good the game looks. 

with_teeth26

Yeah Physx xan be disabled. Tesselation on it's highest tesselates the entire world, lowering it only tesselates what the developers purposefully tesselated themselves. On the highest absolutely everything gets bump mapping so lowering it might help a lot.

SSAA should be left off as it's basically rendering the image much higher than your res, then downsampling to your chosen res to eliminate jaggies. In other words it's the same as ubersampling from The Witcher 2. (more or less) AA is automatically on all the time anyway and should eliminate enough jaggies itself. 

I get crazy good performance in game. it may dip a few times but it never feels like ti actually dips. Crysis 3 used to chug quite a bit at times. 

Check my sig, you can see my fraps in game to see what my 670 and 3570k get maxed out (no SSAA)

What rig you got teeth? 

Yeah Physx xan be disabled. Tesselation on it's highest tesselates the entire world, lowering it only tesselates what the developers purposefully tesselated themselves. On the highest absolutely everything gets bump mapping so lowering it might help a lot.

SSAA should be left off as it's basically rendering the image much higher than your res, then downsampling to your chosen res to eliminate jaggies. In other words it's the same as ubersampling from The Witcher 2. (more or less) AA is automatically on all the time anyway and should eliminate enough jaggies itself. 

I get crazy good performance in game. it may dip a few times but it never feels like ti actually dips. Crysis 3 used to chug quite a bit at times. 

Check my sig, you can see my fraps in game to see what my 670 and 3570k get maxed out (no SSAA)

What rig you got teeth? 

seanmcloughlin

same as you but a 2500k 

I got similar frames on that bit on the aformentioned settings, you might not be at the areas that gave me drops below 40 yet. It never became unplayable but there was one sequence where the slowdown was pretty noticeable. 

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Yeah Physx xan be disabled. Tesselation on it's highest tesselates the entire world, lowering it only tesselates what the developers purposefully tesselated themselves. On the highest absolutely everything gets bump mapping so lowering it might help a lot.

SSAA should be left off as it's basically rendering the image much higher than your res, then downsampling to your chosen res to eliminate jaggies. In other words it's the same as ubersampling from The Witcher 2. (more or less) AA is automatically on all the time anyway and should eliminate enough jaggies itself. 

I get crazy good performance in game. it may dip a few times but it never feels like ti actually dips. Crysis 3 used to chug quite a bit at times. 

Check my sig, you can see my fraps in game to see what my 670 and 3570k get maxed out (no SSAA)

What rig you got teeth? 

with_teeth26

same as you but a 2500k 

I got similar frames on that bit on the aformentioned settings, you might not be at the areas that gave me drops below 40 yet. It never became unplayable but there was one sequence where the slowdown was pretty noticeable. 

Just went through some of the first proper stealth areas, the one with the water wheel really tanked things a bit

Am surprised at how well my single GTX 670 can run High with 4x AF, ehnanced PhysX and medium tesselation + control planet anti-alias set at 4X. 

ShadowJax04

I have a 670 as well, 4 gig.  3.4, 8 gig, Win 7.  Gets the stutters as my benchmark above shows.  

:evil: 

Aaarrrrrrrggggghhh!  Thanks for your help, I've tried it but no dice.  I hope the devs get on this ASAP, because I may just play it anyway with stuttering.  It's a cool game.  This sucks....

Anyone getting these? Totally unplayable in dx11 for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMTJp_p2NLQ

FPS drops seem to get worse as the game goes on for me. I was in a spot when looking ahead I got 80 FPS and turning around it shot down to 9 FPS, despite me staring directly at a wall. The shadow flickering is still just as common. I really hope we get a patch or driver update to fix this.

Toxic-Seahorse

Huh.  This is strange.  I played past the underground, got out into the open, and the stuttering disappeared.  Even going back underground, no longer there.  Wtf??  No complaints here, but I don't see how this could happen.  Maybe it just took time to fully load things into memory?  Weird.

Just completed the game and I personally like it better then Metro 2033. Lots of interesting mutant creature scenarios, much better creature animation, and beautiful sceneries. Almost everything is better the Metro 2033 and the graphics are amazing.

The game ran great on my Radeon 6950 1GB with FX6100 CPU; I got mostly 30-60 FPS through 95% of the game.The only point when the frame rate dropped below 20 was in the sections with really typhoon storm wind and rain. 

Glad most games are amd sponsered now, seems like most of the nvidia sponsered games run like ass on amd cards/all cards.