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#1 millerlight89
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I have an 8800 gtx 4 gigs off ddr3 ram asus p5e3 mobo, and an e6700 processor. Ok I was looking to upgrade my gpu when

the new geforce 9 series came out, but to be honest I have mixed feelings. My card can run all my games on high and pretty

sure most games coming out, hopefully even far cry 2 and fallout 3. Idk if i should upgrade or just stick with my 8800 gtx. if i

stuck with it I would upgrade my processor when the new yorkfield quads hit stores. Keep in mind I usually keep my rez at 1280

by 720.

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#2 tequilasunriser
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You'd be stupid if you didn't stick it out. The 9 series is nothing to call home about.
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#3 Whiteknight19
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its better to stick with the 8800GTX's 9800 serie's is no more then another overclocked 8800's all 3 cards process 128 steam procces ( cant spell )

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#4 firefox59
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its better to stick with the 8800GTX's 9800 serie's is no more then another overclocked 8800's all 3 cards process 128 steam procces ( cant spell )

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Yeah, especially if your playing at such a low res. The much higer resolutions is where the 9800x2 really begins to shine, but even then it's too expensive for what it does.
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#5 Lehman
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get another GTX and then get a GT200 cards when they come out

but a P5 cant do SLI can it??
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#6 Wesker776
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...why would anyone with an 8800 GTX think about upgrading to 9800 GX2?

The 8800 GTX still has massive processing balls, enough to max all games (bar Crysis) at 19x12+.

Hell, if I had an 8800 GTX, I'd wait it out until mid 2009.

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#7 Bebi_vegeta
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I have an 8800 gtx 4 gigs off ddr3 ram asus p5e3 mobo, and an e6700 processor. Ok I was looking to upgrade my gpu when

the new geforce 9 series came out, but to be honest I have mixed feelings. My card can run all my games on high and pretty

sure most games coming out, hopefully even far cry 2 and fallout 3. Idk if i should upgrade or just stick with my 8800 gtx. if i

stuck with it I would upgrade my processor when the new yorkfield quads hit stores. Keep in mind I usually keep my rez at 1280

by 720.

millerlight89

You have a GTX to play on that resolution??? You shouldn't even think about upgrading then...

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#8 SearchMaster
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

I have an 8800 gtx 4 gigs off ddr3 ram asus p5e3 mobo, and an e6700 processor. Ok I was looking to upgrade my gpu when

the new geforce 9 series came out, but to be honest I have mixed feelings. My card can run all my games on high and pretty

sure most games coming out, hopefully even far cry 2 and fallout 3. Idk if i should upgrade or just stick with my 8800 gtx. if i

stuck with it I would upgrade my processor when the new yorkfield quads hit stores. Keep in mind I usually keep my rez at 1280

by 720.

Bebi_vegeta

You have a GTX to play on that resolution??? You shouldn't even think about upgrading then...

Yeah and since you are already maxing out most of the games, why the upgrade then ?? For Crysis only ??
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#9 AA7
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My SLI GTX's are going to keep up with the 9800 series for the lifespan of the series. Im not upgrading till I see some very significant improvments, likely with the 10,000 series.
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

I have an 8800 gtx 4 gigs off ddr3 ram asus p5e3 mobo, and an e6700 processor. Ok I was looking to upgrade my gpu when

the new geforce 9 series came out, but to be honest I have mixed feelings. My card can run all my games on high and pretty

sure most games coming out, hopefully even far cry 2 and fallout 3. Idk if i should upgrade or just stick with my 8800 gtx. if i

stuck with it I would upgrade my processor when the new yorkfield quads hit stores. Keep in mind I usually keep my rez at 1280

by 720.

Bebi_vegeta

You have a GTX to play on that resolution??? You shouldn't even think about upgrading then...

Yes i think XP very high in crysis should be very much playable for the TC in that res.
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...why would anyone with an 8800 GTX think about upgrading to 9800 GX2?

The 8800 GTX still has massive processing balls, enough to max all games (bar Crysis) at 19x12+.

Hell, if I had an 8800 GTX, I'd wait it out until mid 2009.

Wesker776

The same reason why people buy 2x8800GTX or even 3??

And the GTX certainly doesnt max all games bar crysis in 19x12.

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seems like your only upgrading your rig just for ther sake of it, nothing you've said justifies an upgrade at all do you really need to go from 100fps to 110? you have the best GPU on the market so its pointless even thinkin about one.
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#13 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Wesker776"]

...why would anyone with an 8800 GTX think about upgrading to 9800 GX2?

The 8800 GTX still has massive processing balls, enough to max all games (bar Crysis) at 19x12+.

Hell, if I had an 8800 GTX, I'd wait it out until mid 2009.

Musacircuit_2

The same reason why people buy 2x8800GTX or even 3??

And the GTX certainly doesnt max all games bar crysis in 19x12.

It's funny how you say all games with a s... and you only name crysis.

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[QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"][QUOTE="Wesker776"]

...why would anyone with an 8800 GTX think about upgrading to 9800 GX2?

The 8800 GTX still has massive processing balls, enough to max all games (bar Crysis) at 19x12+.

Hell, if I had an 8800 GTX, I'd wait it out until mid 2009.

Bebi_vegeta

The same reason why people buy 2x8800GTX or even 3??

And the GTX certainly doesnt max all games bar crysis in 19x12.

It's funny how you say all games with a s... and you only name crysis.

Ok....I cant max out lost planet,call of jeruz,WiC,DIRT,neverwinter nights in 19x12.Can you?

And by maxed i mean 4xAA and 16xAF with NO visible frameratre hiccups throughout 99% of the game.If it's not that then it it NOT maxed.

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#15 Baselerd
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The geforce 9 series is the same as the geforce 8 series, it's a marketing sham. The 8800gtx and 9800gx2 operate on the same core logic, the only difference is that the 9800gx2 has two g92 cores, and the 8800gtx has one g80 core.

There are subtle differences like the bandwidth and # of ROP's, but the only real significant thing is that the g92 is on 65nm feature size manufacturing process.

With that said, 8800GTX is still a high end enthusiast card.

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#16 millerlight89
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Thanks guys, yea idk why i play at that rez is just like turning every setting up and playing at that rez b/c it's good enough. I guess i'm gunna wait till ati's r770 or the new gefource coming out
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#17 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"][QUOTE="Wesker776"]

...why would anyone with an 8800 GTX think about upgrading to 9800 GX2?

The 8800 GTX still has massive processing balls, enough to max all games (bar Crysis) at 19x12+.

Hell, if I had an 8800 GTX, I'd wait it out until mid 2009.

Musacircuit_2

The same reason why people buy 2x8800GTX or even 3??

And the GTX certainly doesnt max all games bar crysis in 19x12.

It's funny how you say all games with a s... and you only name crysis.

Ok....I cant max out lost planet,call of jeruz,WiC,DIRT,neverwinter nights in 19x12.Can you?

And by maxed i mean 4xAA and 16xAF with NO visible frameratre hiccups throughout 99% of the game.If it's not that then it it NOT maxed.

Yeah i'm guessing your seeing a real difference between AA's @ 1920x1200? Also have you heard of overclocking? Cause that's exactly why I have WC setup for.

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#18 BlueBirdTS
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Your computer is more than capable enough of running the great majority of games for the next several months, especially when you factor in overclocking. I honestly wouldn't even think about upgrading for at least another year.
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"][QUOTE="Wesker776"]

...why would anyone with an 8800 GTX think about upgrading to 9800 GX2?

The 8800 GTX still has massive processing balls, enough to max all games (bar Crysis) at 19x12+.

Hell, if I had an 8800 GTX, I'd wait it out until mid 2009.

Musacircuit_2

The same reason why people buy 2x8800GTX or even 3??

And the GTX certainly doesnt max all games bar crysis in 19x12.

It's funny how you say all games with a s... and you only name crysis.

Ok....I cant max out lost planet,call of jeruz,WiC,DIRT,neverwinter nights in 19x12.Can you?

And by maxed i mean 4xAA and 16xAF with NO visible frameratre hiccups throughout 99% of the game.If it's not that then it it NOT maxed.

well i think you missed ONE crucial part, didnt you mean to say and all settings on HIGH or VERY HIGH??

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[QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"][QUOTE="Wesker776"]

...why would anyone with an 8800 GTX think about upgrading to 9800 GX2?

The 8800 GTX still has massive processing balls, enough to max all games (bar Crysis) at 19x12+.

Hell, if I had an 8800 GTX, I'd wait it out until mid 2009.

Lehman

The same reason why people buy 2x8800GTX or even 3??

And the GTX certainly doesnt max all games bar crysis in 19x12.

It's funny how you say all games with a s... and you only name crysis.

Ok....I cant max out lost planet,call of jeruz,WiC,DIRT,neverwinter nights in 19x12.Can you?

And by maxed i mean 4xAA and 16xAF with NO visible frameratre hiccups throughout 99% of the game.If it's not that then it it NOT maxed.

well i think you missed ONE crucial part, didnt you mean to say and all settings on HIGH or VERY HIGH??

All settings on maximum possible ofcourse.
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#21 Musacircuit_2
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[QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"][QUOTE="Wesker776"]

...why would anyone with an 8800 GTX think about upgrading to 9800 GX2?

The 8800 GTX still has massive processing balls, enough to max all games (bar Crysis) at 19x12+.

Hell, if I had an 8800 GTX, I'd wait it out until mid 2009.

Bebi_vegeta

The same reason why people buy 2x8800GTX or even 3??

And the GTX certainly doesnt max all games bar crysis in 19x12.

It's funny how you say all games with a s... and you only name crysis.

Ok....I cant max out lost planet,call of jeruz,WiC,DIRT,neverwinter nights in 19x12.Can you?

And by maxed i mean 4xAA and 16xAF with NO visible frameratre hiccups throughout 99% of the game.If it's not that then it it NOT maxed.

Yeah i'm guessing your seeing a real difference between AA's @ 1920x1200? Also have you heard of overclocking? Cause that's exactly why I have WC setup for.

Ya i can see a significant difference between 2xAA and 4xAA at 19x12.

And my card is already the XXX which has got a pretty good OC and water cooling isnt going to max any of those games out for me.I mean you are talking as if overclocking is some massive deal that will give you double framerates.:roll:

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#22 Daytona_178
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its better to stick with the 8800GTX's 9800 serie's is no more then another overclocked 8800's all 3 cards process 128 steam procces ( cant spell )

Whiteknight19

Agreed! (well not with your grammar but with your statement!)

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#23 1nverted
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Stick with the 1 8800GTX or if you're desperate, just get another GTX and go SLI (Assuming your board and PSU are capable). My SLI'd OC'd 8800GT's are better than the 9800GTX and even combined they are still far cheaper. The 9800 series is to Nvidia as the 2900 series was to ATI, an extremely small yet incredibly expensive step up.
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#24 SearchMaster
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@ OP : Why would you pay alot of money just to get higher settings only at 1 game (Crysis) and you arent even getting that improvment.. Its only few fps so think again before you go out and buy any GPU because yours is more than powerful

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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"][QUOTE="Wesker776"]

...why would anyone with an 8800 GTX think about upgrading to 9800 GX2?

The 8800 GTX still has massive processing balls, enough to max all games (bar Crysis) at 19x12+.

Hell, if I had an 8800 GTX, I'd wait it out until mid 2009.

Musacircuit_2

The same reason why people buy 2x8800GTX or even 3??

And the GTX certainly doesnt max all games bar crysis in 19x12.

It's funny how you say all games with a s... and you only name crysis.

Ok....I cant max out lost planet,call of jeruz,WiC,DIRT,neverwinter nights in 19x12.Can you?

And by maxed i mean 4xAA and 16xAF with NO visible frameratre hiccups throughout 99% of the game.If it's not that then it it NOT maxed.

Yeah i'm guessing your seeing a real difference between AA's @ 1920x1200? Also have you heard of overclocking? Cause that's exactly why I have WC setup for.

Ya i can see a significant difference between 2xAA and 4xAA at 19x12.

And my card is already the XXX which has got a pretty good OC and water cooling isnt going to max any of those games out for me.I mean you are talking as if overclocking is some massive deal that will give you double framerates.:roll:

sorry but you cannot see a significant difference between 2x AA and 4X AA at that high resolution.
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[QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"][QUOTE="Wesker776"]

...why would anyone with an 8800 GTX think about upgrading to 9800 GX2?

The 8800 GTX still has massive processing balls, enough to max all games (bar Crysis) at 19x12+.

Hell, if I had an 8800 GTX, I'd wait it out until mid 2009.

yoyo462001

The same reason why people buy 2x8800GTX or even 3??

And the GTX certainly doesnt max all games bar crysis in 19x12.

It's funny how you say all games with a s... and you only name crysis.

Ok....I cant max out lost planet,call of jeruz,WiC,DIRT,neverwinter nights in 19x12.Can you?

And by maxed i mean 4xAA and 16xAF with NO visible frameratre hiccups throughout 99% of the game.If it's not that then it it NOT maxed.

Yeah i'm guessing your seeing a real difference between AA's @ 1920x1200? Also have you heard of overclocking? Cause that's exactly why I have WC setup for.

Ya i can see a significant difference between 2xAA and 4xAA at 19x12.

And my card is already the XXX which has got a pretty good OC and water cooling isnt going to max any of those games out for me.I mean you are talking as if overclocking is some massive deal that will give you double framerates.:roll:

sorry but you cannot see a significant difference between 2x AA and 4X AA at that high resolution.

Have you experienced it??

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you dont need to see it, anyone who knew anything about gaming high resolutions would know that there is not a significant difference between 2x and 4x AA yes there maybe a difference but it is no way in this world "significant".
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#28 onuruca
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stick with your card. get 9800 ultra or something when it comes.

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#29 Musacircuit_2
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you dont need to see it, anyone who knew anything about gaming high resolutions would know that there is not a significant difference between 2x and 4x AA yes there maybe a difference but it is no way in this world "significant".yoyo462001
High resolution does NOT reduce jaggies.It ALL depends on the number of pixels on screen in relation to the size of the screen.

Gaming on a 52" 1080p HDTV is NOT gaming in high resolution.Gaming on a 13" CRT at 10x7 is high resolution gaming.

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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"][QUOTE="Wesker776"]

...why would anyone with an 8800 GTX think about upgrading to 9800 GX2?

The 8800 GTX still has massive processing balls, enough to max all games (bar Crysis) at 19x12+.

Hell, if I had an 8800 GTX, I'd wait it out until mid 2009.

Musacircuit_2

The same reason why people buy 2x8800GTX or even 3??

And the GTX certainly doesnt max all games bar crysis in 19x12.

It's funny how you say all games with a s... and you only name crysis.

Ok....I cant max out lost planet,call of jeruz,WiC,DIRT,neverwinter nights in 19x12.Can you?

And by maxed i mean 4xAA and 16xAF with NO visible frameratre hiccups throughout 99% of the game.If it's not that then it it NOT maxed.

Yeah i'm guessing your seeing a real difference between AA's @ 1920x1200? Also have you heard of overclocking? Cause that's exactly why I have WC setup for.

Ya i can see a significant difference between 2xAA and 4xAA at 19x12.

And my card is already the XXX which has got a pretty good OC and water cooling isnt going to max any of those games out for me.I mean you are talking as if overclocking is some massive deal that will give you double framerates.:roll:

LOL!!!

Why don't you take some nice pictures of your AA's... I mean i'd really like to see the difference aswell.

I guess you haven't heard of volt mod have you? Oh, why don't you try doing that on air cooling.

Where did I say overclocking would give you double the frame rates... unless you can achieve 100% overclocking?

It does give you a nice boost, why do you think people do it?

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#31 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="yoyo462001"]you dont need to see it, anyone who knew anything about gaming high resolutions would know that there is not a significant difference between 2x and 4x AA yes there maybe a difference but it is no way in this world "significant".Musacircuit_2

High resolution does NOT reduce jaggies.It ALL depends on the number of pixels on screen in relation to the size of the screen.

Gaming on a 52" 1080p HDTV is NOT gaming in high resolution.Gaming on a 13" CRT at 10x7 is high resolution gaming.

Gaming on a 52" 1080p HDTV is NOT gaming in high resolution??? Wait wait wait.... So you're saying I was better of with my 52" 480i TV... since 1080p is not at all gaming in high resolution.... and of cours that would not reduce the jaggies at all either.
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#32 Musacircuit_2
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[QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"]

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"]you dont need to see it, anyone who knew anything about gaming high resolutions would know that there is not a significant difference between 2x and 4x AA yes there maybe a difference but it is no way in this world "significant".Bebi_vegeta

High resolution does NOT reduce jaggies.It ALL depends on the number of pixels on screen in relation to the size of the screen.

Gaming on a 52" 1080p HDTV is NOT gaming in high resolution.Gaming on a 13" CRT at 10x7 is high resolution gaming.

Gaming on a 52" 1080p HDTV is NOT gaming in high resolution??? Wait wait wait.... So you're saying I was better of with my 52" 480i TV... since 1080p is not at all gaming in high resolution.... and of cours that would not reduce the jaggies at all either.

No compared to someone gaming on a 24" LCD,a 52" 1080p HDTV is not high resolution gaming.Gaming on most PC LCD monitors is high resolution gaming as they have the appropriate balance between the size of the screen and the resolution.

A 52" TV with 1080p will obvioulsy look better than a 52" SDTV but in terms of picture quality a nice S-IPS panel 24" LCD will beat those fancy samsung or sony 52" HDTV's.Try sitting close to a 50" HDTV and you will understand what i am saying.

The best way for you to understand this is to have monitors or TV's of different size running the SAME resolution and you will see the difference.

As for your AA,well compare a 24" LCD running 19x12 with a 30" LCD running 25x16.You WONT see any less jaggies on the 30",you can have my guarantee for that as i have tested this.

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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"]

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"]you dont need to see it, anyone who knew anything about gaming high resolutions would know that there is not a significant difference between 2x and 4x AA yes there maybe a difference but it is no way in this world "significant".Musacircuit_2

High resolution does NOT reduce jaggies.It ALL depends on the number of pixels on screen in relation to the size of the screen.

Gaming on a 52" 1080p HDTV is NOT gaming in high resolution.Gaming on a 13" CRT at 10x7 is high resolution gaming.

Gaming on a 52" 1080p HDTV is NOT gaming in high resolution??? Wait wait wait.... So you're saying I was better of with my 52" 480i TV... since 1080p is not at all gaming in high resolution.... and of cours that would not reduce the jaggies at all either.

No compared to someone gaming on a 24" LCD,a 52" 1080p HDTV is not high resolution gaming.Gaming on most PC LCD monitors is high resolution gaming as they have the appropriate balance between the size of the screen and the resolution.

A 52" TV with 1080p will obvioulsy look better than a 52" SDTV but in terms of picture quality a nice S-IPS panel 24" LCD will beat those fancy samsung or sony 52" HDTV's.Try sitting close to a 50" HDTV and you will understand what i am saying.

The best way for you to understand this is to have monitors or TV's of different size running the SAME resolution and you will see the difference.

As for your AA,well compare a 24" LCD running 19x12 with a 30" LCD running 25x16.You WONT see any less jaggies on the 30",you can have my guarantee for that as i have tested this.

Well first of all ... I have no clue why you went on about TV since we were talking about 1920x1200 resolution.. obviously only PC monitors can do that. And why would I sit close to a 50" TV when it was ment to be viewed at distance LOL...

Well i'm still waiting for some pictures of your AA's @ 19x12... why do you change subjects and talk of higher resolution? You testing things without any evidence proves nothing.

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I have an 8800 gtx 4 gigs off ddr3 ram asus p5e3 mobo, and an e6700 processor. Ok I was looking to upgrade my gpu when

the new geforce 9 series came out, but to be honest I have mixed feelings. My card can run all my games on high and pretty

sure most games coming out, hopefully even far cry 2 and fallout 3. Idk if i should upgrade or just stick with my 8800 gtx. if i

stuck with it I would upgrade my processor when the new yorkfield quads hit stores. Keep in mind I usually keep my rez at 1280

by 720.

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Wait untill Far Cry 2 and Fall out 3 comes out, then score a new GPU. By then, they'll be something better and cheaper.
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[QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"]

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"]you dont need to see it, anyone who knew anything about gaming high resolutions would know that there is not a significant difference between 2x and 4x AA yes there maybe a difference but it is no way in this world "significant".Bebi_vegeta

High resolution does NOT reduce jaggies.It ALL depends on the number of pixels on screen in relation to the size of the screen.

Gaming on a 52" 1080p HDTV is NOT gaming in high resolution.Gaming on a 13" CRT at 10x7 is high resolution gaming.

Gaming on a 52" 1080p HDTV is NOT gaming in high resolution??? Wait wait wait.... So you're saying I was better of with my 52" 480i TV... since 1080p is not at all gaming in high resolution.... and of cours that would not reduce the jaggies at all either.

No compared to someone gaming on a 24" LCD,a 52" 1080p HDTV is not high resolution gaming.Gaming on most PC LCD monitors is high resolution gaming as they have the appropriate balance between the size of the screen and the resolution.

A 52" TV with 1080p will obvioulsy look better than a 52" SDTV but in terms of picture quality a nice S-IPS panel 24" LCD will beat those fancy samsung or sony 52" HDTV's.Try sitting close to a 50" HDTV and you will understand what i am saying.

The best way for you to understand this is to have monitors or TV's of different size running the SAME resolution and you will see the difference.

As for your AA,well compare a 24" LCD running 19x12 with a 30" LCD running 25x16.You WONT see any less jaggies on the 30",you can have my guarantee for that as i have tested this.

Well first of all ... I have no clue why you went on about TV since we were talking about 1920x1200 resolution.. obviously only PC monitors can do that. And why would I sit close to a 50" TV when it was ment to be viewed at distance LOL...

Well i'm still waiting for some pictures of your AA's @ 19x12... why do you change subjects and talk of higher resolution? You testing things without any evidence proves nothing.

But the picture will be downgraded form that res if i post it on teh internet wont it?
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"]

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"]you dont need to see it, anyone who knew anything about gaming high resolutions would know that there is not a significant difference between 2x and 4x AA yes there maybe a difference but it is no way in this world "significant".Musacircuit_2

High resolution does NOT reduce jaggies.It ALL depends on the number of pixels on screen in relation to the size of the screen.

Gaming on a 52" 1080p HDTV is NOT gaming in high resolution.Gaming on a 13" CRT at 10x7 is high resolution gaming.

Gaming on a 52" 1080p HDTV is NOT gaming in high resolution??? Wait wait wait.... So you're saying I was better of with my 52" 480i TV... since 1080p is not at all gaming in high resolution.... and of cours that would not reduce the jaggies at all either.

No compared to someone gaming on a 24" LCD,a 52" 1080p HDTV is not high resolution gaming.Gaming on most PC LCD monitors is high resolution gaming as they have the appropriate balance between the size of the screen and the resolution.

A 52" TV with 1080p will obvioulsy look better than a 52" SDTV but in terms of picture quality a nice S-IPS panel 24" LCD will beat those fancy samsung or sony 52" HDTV's.Try sitting close to a 50" HDTV and you will understand what i am saying.

The best way for you to understand this is to have monitors or TV's of different size running the SAME resolution and you will see the difference.

As for your AA,well compare a 24" LCD running 19x12 with a 30" LCD running 25x16.You WONT see any less jaggies on the 30",you can have my guarantee for that as i have tested this.

Well first of all ... I have no clue why you went on about TV since we were talking about 1920x1200 resolution.. obviously only PC monitors can do that. And why would I sit close to a 50" TV when it was ment to be viewed at distance LOL...

Well i'm still waiting for some pictures of your AA's @ 19x12... why do you change subjects and talk of higher resolution? You testing things without any evidence proves nothing.

But the picture will be downgraded form that res if i post it on teh internet wont it?

HUH? Imagine shack will let you keep the resolution... And what's beautiful is that I have a 24" Dell, so i'll really be able to see it all.

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[QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"]

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"]you dont need to see it, anyone who knew anything about gaming high resolutions would know that there is not a significant difference between 2x and 4x AA yes there maybe a difference but it is no way in this world "significant".Bebi_vegeta

High resolution does NOT reduce jaggies.It ALL depends on the number of pixels on screen in relation to the size of the screen.

Gaming on a 52" 1080p HDTV is NOT gaming in high resolution.Gaming on a 13" CRT at 10x7 is high resolution gaming.

Gaming on a 52" 1080p HDTV is NOT gaming in high resolution??? Wait wait wait.... So you're saying I was better of with my 52" 480i TV... since 1080p is not at all gaming in high resolution.... and of cours that would not reduce the jaggies at all either.

No compared to someone gaming on a 24" LCD,a 52" 1080p HDTV is not high resolution gaming.Gaming on most PC LCD monitors is high resolution gaming as they have the appropriate balance between the size of the screen and the resolution.

A 52" TV with 1080p will obvioulsy look better than a 52" SDTV but in terms of picture quality a nice S-IPS panel 24" LCD will beat those fancy samsung or sony 52" HDTV's.Try sitting close to a 50" HDTV and you will understand what i am saying.

The best way for you to understand this is to have monitors or TV's of different size running the SAME resolution and you will see the difference.

As for your AA,well compare a 24" LCD running 19x12 with a 30" LCD running 25x16.You WONT see any less jaggies on the 30",you can have my guarantee for that as i have tested this.

Well first of all ... I have no clue why you went on about TV since we were talking about 1920x1200 resolution.. obviously only PC monitors can do that. And why would I sit close to a 50" TV when it was ment to be viewed at distance LOL...

Well i'm still waiting for some pictures of your AA's @ 19x12... why do you change subjects and talk of higher resolution? You testing things without any evidence proves nothing.

But the picture will be downgraded form that res if i post it on teh internet wont it?

HUH? Imagine shack will let you keep the resolution... And what's beautiful is that I have a 24" Dell, so i'll really be able to see it all.

It's not free.

And if you have a 24" LCD then why are we bothering with this?If you cant see a noticible difference between 2xAA and 4xAA then good for you?

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[QUOTE="yoyo462001"]you dont need to see it, anyone who knew anything about gaming high resolutions would know that there is not a significant difference between 2x and 4x AA yes there maybe a difference but it is no way in this world "significant".Musacircuit_2

High resolution does NOT reduce jaggies.It ALL depends on the number of pixels on screen in relation to the size of the screen.

Gaming on a 52" 1080p HDTV is NOT gaming in high resolution.Gaming on a 13" CRT at 10x7 is high resolution gaming.

Tv's do not come in a 1920x1200 (which is the res you said) so therefore i rightly assumed it was monitor most likely from 17" to 30" in which you wont see a significant difference. the jagged edges are caused when you are displaying a high res signal at a lower res so by increasing the res YOU do in-fact reduce the amount of jagged edges. gaming at 1080p is high resolution gaming, that last paragraph was all wrong.
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[QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"]

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"]you dont need to see it, anyone who knew anything about gaming high resolutions would know that there is not a significant difference between 2x and 4x AA yes there maybe a difference but it is no way in this world "significant".yoyo462001

High resolution does NOT reduce jaggies.It ALL depends on the number of pixels on screen in relation to the size of the screen.

Gaming on a 52" 1080p HDTV is NOT gaming in high resolution.Gaming on a 13" CRT at 10x7 is high resolution gaming.

Tv's do not come in a 1920x1200 (which is the res you said) so therefore i rightly assumed it was monitor most likely from 17" to 30" in which you wont see a significant difference. the jagged edges are caused when you are displaying a high res signal at a lower res so by increasing the res YOU do in-fact reduce the amount of jagged edges. gaming at 1080p is high resolution gaming, that last paragraph was all wrong.

Higher resolutions reduces jaggies on CRT's.With LCD's higher resolution mostly accompanies a bigger size so that negates it being a high resolution thus no improvement in jaggies.
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Begi-vegata do one thing and that will clear to you that higher resolution does not reduce jaggies if you increase the size of the scrren as well.

You have a 24" LCD?Ok run any game without AA or with AA at 19x12 then run the same game in the same AA setting at 16x10 "in windowed mode" and tell me if you notice anymore jaggies in 16x10 then 19x12?

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#41 yoyo462001
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[QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"]

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"]you dont need to see it, anyone who knew anything about gaming high resolutions would know that there is not a significant difference between 2x and 4x AA yes there maybe a difference but it is no way in this world "significant".Musacircuit_2

High resolution does NOT reduce jaggies.It ALL depends on the number of pixels on screen in relation to the size of the screen.

Gaming on a 52" 1080p HDTV is NOT gaming in high resolution.Gaming on a 13" CRT at 10x7 is high resolution gaming.

Tv's do not come in a 1920x1200 (which is the res you said) so therefore i rightly assumed it was monitor most likely from 17" to 30" in which you wont see a significant difference. the jagged edges are caused when you are displaying a high res signal at a lower res so by increasing the res YOU do in-fact reduce the amount of jagged edges. gaming at 1080p is high resolution gaming, that last paragraph was all wrong.

Higher resolutions reduces jaggies on CRT's.With LCD's higher resolution mostly accompanies a bigger size so that negates it being a high resolution thus no improvement in jaggies.

"negates it being a high resolution"? i dont even know what your on about now, from what i think your saying is that a higher screen size will cause the picture to look worse, yes if your referring to TV's but due to monitors having to having to look good close up this does not affect them but even without this you up the resolution you will get less jaggies.
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#42 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Musacircuit_2"]

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"]you dont need to see it, anyone who knew anything about gaming high resolutions would know that there is not a significant difference between 2x and 4x AA yes there maybe a difference but it is no way in this world "significant".Musacircuit_2

High resolution does NOT reduce jaggies.It ALL depends on the number of pixels on screen in relation to the size of the screen.

Gaming on a 52" 1080p HDTV is NOT gaming in high resolution.Gaming on a 13" CRT at 10x7 is high resolution gaming.

Gaming on a 52" 1080p HDTV is NOT gaming in high resolution??? Wait wait wait.... So you're saying I was better of with my 52" 480i TV... since 1080p is not at all gaming in high resolution.... and of cours that would not reduce the jaggies at all either.

No compared to someone gaming on a 24" LCD,a 52" 1080p HDTV is not high resolution gaming.Gaming on most PC LCD monitors is high resolution gaming as they have the appropriate balance between the size of the screen and the resolution.

A 52" TV with 1080p will obvioulsy look better than a 52" SDTV but in terms of picture quality a nice S-IPS panel 24" LCD will beat those fancy samsung or sony 52" HDTV's.Try sitting close to a 50" HDTV and you will understand what i am saying.

The best way for you to understand this is to have monitors or TV's of different size running the SAME resolution and you will see the difference.

As for your AA,well compare a 24" LCD running 19x12 with a 30" LCD running 25x16.You WONT see any less jaggies on the 30",you can have my guarantee for that as i have tested this.

Well first of all ... I have no clue why you went on about TV since we were talking about 1920x1200 resolution.. obviously only PC monitors can do that. And why would I sit close to a 50" TV when it was ment to be viewed at distance LOL...

Well i'm still waiting for some pictures of your AA's @ 19x12... why do you change subjects and talk of higher resolution? You testing things without any evidence proves nothing.

But the picture will be downgraded form that res if i post it on teh internet wont it?

HUH? Imagine shack will let you keep the resolution... And what's beautiful is that I have a 24" Dell, so i'll really be able to see it all.

It's not free.

And if you have a 24" LCD then why are we bothering with this?If you cant see a noticible difference between 2xAA and 4xAA then good for you?

http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/7959/freesf8.jpg

Looks free to me...

Well I really want you to show me the difference, this is why i am asking you.

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The GeForce 9 series is supposed to have OpenGL 3.0 and DirectX 10.1 capabilities, but I don't think we'll see games taking advantage of those two API's for a while.
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The GeForce 9 series is supposed to have OpenGL 3.0 and DirectX 10.1 capabilities, but I don't think we'll see games taking advantage of those two API's for a while.Vax45

To bad they don't have dx10.1 included... I don't know much about OpenGL 3.0.

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[QUOTE="Vax45"]The GeForce 9 series is supposed to have OpenGL 3.0 and DirectX 10.1 capabilities, but I don't think we'll see games taking advantage of those two API's for a while.Bebi_vegeta

To bad they don't have dx10.1 included... I don't know much about OpenGL 3.0.

Well, OpenGL 3.0 is going to be BIG. Like, a BIG BIG BIG performance boost from the previous versions. The downfall is (don't quote me) that it doesn't have backwards compatibility with versions 1.0-2.X.

DX10.1 is just a cleanup of the API and a couple added features. Don't know a whole lot myself.