Is it time to upgrade? (processor and memory related)

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Poll: Is it time to upgrade? (processor and memory related) (14 votes)

Yes 36%
No 29%
Maybe? 36%

Hello-

First, let's get my specs out of the way:

  • Processor: Core i7-4790 @ 4 GHz
  • Mobo: Asrock Z97 Extreme 6
  • Memory: 16 GB memory (it says I have 9.88 available physical memory?)
  • OS: Windows 10 Home
  • Video card: Nvidia 2080

Is this dated? I bought the i7 for future proofing, so even if it got old I could still squeeze some more life out of it. With that said, it's getting a bit long in the tooth seeing as how we are on, what? 10th generation or something.

More importantly, is my processor and/or memory bottle-necking my video card?

I play at 1440p.

Thank you very much!

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#1 PfizersaurusRex
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Do you have a 144Hz freesync monitor? If you can get at least 100 fps in games I'd say no need for an upgrade. You would get a little fps improvement with a higher clocked 6 or 8 core CPU (I guess not much with that res/GPU), and adding more RAM would give you zero improvement in games.

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#2  Edited By mrbojangles25
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@PfizersaurusRex said:

Do you have a 144Hz freesync monitor? If you can get at least 100 fps in games I'd say no need for an upgrade. You would get a little fps improvement with a higher clocked 6 or 8 core CPU (I guess not much with that res/GPU), and adding more RAM would give you zero improvement in games.

It's a 144 hz Gsync monitor

Thank you for the response

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#3  Edited By BassMan
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@mrbojangles25: For most games, that CPU is not a bottleneck. For demanding games like BFV 64 player, it is a bottleneck.

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#4  Edited By 04dcarraher
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@mrbojangles25:

Sometime next year your cpu will really start showing its age, especially when the next set of consoles will have 8 core 16 thread Ryzen 2 most likely with a boost clock of 3.2ghz.

At 1440p that resolution is high enough where it make most games more gpu bound than cpu bound. There are some exceptions like the Battlefield games or others that leverage 12+ threads with a decent amount of usage.

As long as the performance of your games are to your liking you shouldn't have to upgrade for at least another year. But if you have the itch to upgrade and want something new and faster. From intel dont get anything but the i9(8 core 16 thread) the plain 8 core or 6 core i5/i7's are pointless upgrade paths, IMO. From AMD get the Ryzen 7 3700x or 3800x.

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#5 Random_Matt
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I'll be upgrading before next gen consoles land.

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#6 mrbojangles25
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@04dcarraher: @BassMan: great, thanks for the replies.

I will hold off I think. I am pretty happy with my rig. The whole reason I'm asking is because I got a "low memory warning" from Star Citizen. I know I shouldn't take such a demanding game in alpha build as gospel that my rig is outdated, it is just the first time in like six years I've had trouble running anything.

Christmas is coming up so I will have a little money on hand to treat myself should the need arise.

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#7 urbangamez
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no reason to upgrade at the moment

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#8 GeryGo  Moderator
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I play with i5 4690 16Gb - I have no complaints ATM, maybe with Intel 15th gen I'll upgrade or it may even be AMD

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#10 mastershake575
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@mrbojangles25 said: Is this dated?

Your CPU might be 5.5 years old but I still think its fine. Where so late into this generation that most games are running on modified engines that are anywhere from 3 to 5 years old.

Not only that CPU has been the most overrated component this generation (mostly due to the consoles getting by on what is essentially a 2012 era lowend CPU). Alot of enthusiast will take there demands/usage and try to pass it off to the normal person but that's not how it works. For over 90% of the world what you have is fine.

I expect the same overrated/over-recommending to happen next generation as well. People are gonna blab exaggerated recommendations like "uhh you need at least a 10 core CPU" when in reality a six core CPU is gonna be faster than the PS5 CPU

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#11 Horgen  Moderator
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With the 2080... Do you chase higher FPS, or better looking visuals?

If the former, upgrade, if the latter, you can wait another year or two.

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#12  Edited By Yams1980
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I have a similar cpu, 4770k i7 @4.4ghz. I thought about upgrading within a year or so. The 9900k i9 was the likely choice but with some of its existing security holes I held back on it, plus its a power hungry cpu. It's possible in a year, AMD may have a cpu that surpasses it if Intel continues to sit back on outdated technology like their 9th gen.

From my experience with my 4770k, i am hitting cpu bottlenecks in some games. If you are trying to hit 144fps on your monitor, your cpu is for sure struggling in some games to hit it.

Heres some games I hit cpu bottlenecks badly:

Sims 4 (large lots with thousands of items place within, FPS drops to as low as 20 fps at the worst of times) Thing is, even with a 9900k, the game would chug, i've seen people run the game on them and really complicated lots will chug down any cpu due to the fact the game only runs on 1-2 threads.

No Man's Sky, fps i would say goes as low as 40 fps due to cpu bottleneck in some areas, especially when doing teraforming quickly.

Shadow of the tomb raider, the game ran like crap on my cpu with dx11. Some areas like the towns, the cpu bottleneck was bad, fps would drop as low as the 40's.

You may see current i9 9900k's go on sale when the newer 9900ks's come out, no idea if they are worth it though.

If there's a game you play all the time and it's struggling to hit 100+fps, i'd say you probably should upgrade sooner rather than later.

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#13  Edited By WESTBLADE
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i7-4790K here, overclocked the hell outta it (literally toe-to-toe with stock i7-7700K) and it bottlenecks my GPU (RTX 2070 OC'ed to RTX 2070 Super, which is very close but still a bit weaker than a stock 2080)... If you're okay with 60 fps, wait till 2021 when Intel and AMD move to new platform/release CPU's with DDR5 support.

Making a new hig-end build as of now is kinda pointless, unless you've got money to burn, because when AMD and Intel move to new sockets, you will have zero room to upgrade the CPU and you will become salty ass like me when i bought my 4790K back in 2014 (ya know, back when it was top-end CPU that cost ~350 Euro), and got zero room to upgrade my CPU, let alone being stuck with that DDR3 slowpoke for years to come...