Intel Cannonlake mainstream CPUs will have 4/6/8 cores.

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#1  Edited By Coseniath
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I was reading my daily 15 hardware sites when I saw this article...

Intel Cannonlake CPU will make the jump to eight cores

Intel Corporation Will Finally Be Upping Its Core Counts With Cannonlake

So Intel's 10nm might bring a true revolution in CPUs that we haven't seen for a looooong time now...

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Interesting... I was already thinking about getting a 6 core in the future. Will have to see what Cannonlake brings as far as 6 cores CPU goes.

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@insane_metalist said:

Interesting... I was already thinking about getting a 6 core in the future. Will have to see what Cannonlake brings as far as 6 cores CPU goes.

I have a feeling that we will see something like 4 cores for Pentiums/Celerons, 6 cores for i3, 8 cores for i5 and 8 cores with HT for i7.

So I guess you would go for i5 (8 cores) at least, wouldn't you? :P

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@Coseniath said:
@insane_metalist said:

Interesting... I was already thinking about getting a 6 core in the future. Will have to see what Cannonlake brings as far as 6 cores CPU goes.

I have a feeling that we will see something like 4 cores for Pentiums/Celerons, 6 cores for i3, 8 cores for i5 and 8 cores with HT for i7.

So I guess you would go for i5 (8 cores) at least, wouldn't you? :P

That's a major jump. Why the sudden jump? Makes more sense if they jump up to 6 cores on their mainstream lineup if they got 8 cores on the enthusiast platform. Even though this won't happen for another 2 years or more. Cannonlake is postponed to 2017. Kaby Lake is their next release.

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@Coseniath said:
@insane_metalist said:

Interesting... I was already thinking about getting a 6 core in the future. Will have to see what Cannonlake brings as far as 6 cores CPU goes.

I have a feeling that we will see something like 4 cores for Pentiums/Celerons, 6 cores for i3, 8 cores for i5 and 8 cores with HT for i7.

So I guess you would go for i5 (8 cores) at least, wouldn't you? :P

In that case I'd grab an unlocked i7. I might as well use all 8 cores to its full potential with HT.

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@horgen said:

That's a major jump. Why the sudden jump? Makes more sense if they jump up to 6 cores on their mainstream lineup if they got 8 cores on the enthusiast platform. Even though this won't happen for another 2 years or more. Cannonlake is postponed to 2017. Kaby Lake is their next release.

The sudden jump is explained by 10nm. It gives Intel so much transistor space that can go with 8 cores easily and the CPU area will still be less than 22nm 4770K/4790K...

@insane_metalist said:

In that case I'd grab an unlocked i7. I might as well use all 8 cores to its full potential with HT.

I would go for i7 too. I think DX12 would be on most new titles by then...

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@Coseniath said:
@horgen said:

That's a major jump. Why the sudden jump? Makes more sense if they jump up to 6 cores on their mainstream lineup if they got 8 cores on the enthusiast platform. Even though this won't happen for another 2 years or more. Cannonlake is postponed to 2017. Kaby Lake is their next release.

The sudden jump is explained by 10nm. It gives Intel so much transistor space that can go with 8 cores easily and the CPU area will still be less than 22nm 4770K/4790K...

@insane_metalist said:

In that case I'd grab an unlocked i7. I might as well use all 8 cores to its full potential with HT.

I would go for i7 too. I think DX12 would be on most new titles by then...

Yeah, but instead they could be saving money... Why suddenly let them be equal to enthusiast platform?

Intel-E series should have 12 cores by then. Or more. Sure it is 2 years into the future, but I doubt Skylake-E which is set to release either late 2016 or early 2017 now I think will have more than 8 cores at most. Unless there is a big jump there too. Otherwise they are killing that platform, basically only for people who need extra PCI-e lanes.

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Zen will have a hell of a fight on it's hands

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@klunt_bumskrint said:

Zen will have a hell of a fight on it's hands

Intel wants to dig their grave?

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@horgen said:

Yeah, but instead they could be saving money... Why suddenly let them be equal to enthusiast platform?

Intel-E series should have 12 cores by then. Or more. Sure it is 2 years into the future, but I doubt Skylake-E which is set to release either late 2016 or early 2017 now I think will have more than 8 cores at most. Unless there is a big jump there too. Otherwise they are killing that platform, basically only for people who need extra PCI-e lanes.

Cause people stopped upgrading. Thats why.

People with i5 2500K didn't have a reason to upgrade.

So they need to refresh their costumers.

It will be a huge financial year for Intel.

Also Intel Xeon, already has 18 cores and 36 threads at 22nm. By then, even with the same architecture, in the same space they can make an MCM with 36 cores and 72 threads at 10nm.

So Intel-E series already has 8 cores 16 threads. It can easily have 16 cores 32 threads by then...

@klunt_bumskrint said:

Zen will have a hell of a fight on it's hands

I think that Intel was just holding their true progress, in order to make more money while they can catch AMD off guard if needed...

A week ago I was watching Xeon and non-professional Intel cpus progress.

It surprised me to see that Xeon didn't have much difference from normal CPUs, in performance and the price was kinda normal like $999 for top model.

That was when AMD was competitive.

Now? Top mainstream model has only 23% of cores of the top Xeon model. They choose to butcher a medium model 12 core Xeon down to 8 cores and rename the CPU series as Enthusiast...

I really hope Zen will reach Intel's newer core gen (sandybridge and after) IPC, so they will force Intel to make more serious mainstream/enthusiast CPUs.

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I hope it'll be better than Skylake failure, I mean lower temps is always nice but where's the performance boost?

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I hope it'll be better than Skylake failure, I mean lower temps is always nice but where's the performance boost?

Judging by the benchmarks when Skylake first came out it was more like performance actually decreased a tiny bit.

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@Coseniath said:
@horgen said:

Yeah, but instead they could be saving money... Why suddenly let them be equal to enthusiast platform?

Intel-E series should have 12 cores by then. Or more. Sure it is 2 years into the future, but I doubt Skylake-E which is set to release either late 2016 or early 2017 now I think will have more than 8 cores at most. Unless there is a big jump there too. Otherwise they are killing that platform, basically only for people who need extra PCI-e lanes.

Cause people stopped upgrading. Thats why.

People with i5 2500K didn't have a reason to upgrade.

So they need to refresh their costumers.

It will be a huge financial year for Intel.

Also Intel Xeon, already has 18 cores and 36 threads at 22nm. By then, even with the same architecture, in the same space they can make an MCM with 36 cores and 72 threads at 10nm.

So Intel-E series already has 8 cores 16 threads. It can easily have 16 cores 32 threads by then...

@klunt_bumskrint said:

Zen will have a hell of a fight on it's hands

I think that Intel was just holding their true progress, in order to make more money while they can catch AMD off guard if needed...

A week ago I was watching Xeon and non-professional Intel cpus progress.

It surprised me to see that Xeon didn't have much difference from normal CPUs, in performance and the price was kinda normal like $999 for top model.

That was when AMD was competitive.

Now? Top mainstream model has only 23% of cores of the top Xeon model. They choose to butcher a medium model 12 core Xeon down to 8 cores and rename the CPU series as Enthusiast...

I really hope Zen will reach Intel's newer core gen (sandybridge and after) IPC, so they will force Intel to make more serious mainstream/enthusiast CPUs.

In terms of power the 2500K is still plenty. Gaming people do require a bit more though...

I don't see myself investing in a enthusiast platform if these rumours are true. Z mobo with i7 is enough then.

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Maybe it is finally worthwhile to upgrade from my ancient x58

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@MK-Professor said:

Maybe it is finally worthwhile to upgrade from my ancient x58

Yup. Lol, x58 is a bit long in the tooth.

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I am holding out for the i7 Crystallake 8700K: Jason Vorhees killer edition.

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@horgen said:

In terms of power the 2500K is still plenty. Gaming people do require a bit more though...

I don't see myself investing in a enthusiast platform if these rumours are true. Z mobo with i7 is enough then.

Well 2500K was a great overclocker and the avg o/c was like 4,8GHz on air (some were reaching 5GHz while others were reaching as low as 4,6GHz).

I really don't know any game that would require more CPU power for 60FPS. At the moment I mean.

But you are right. I think that enthusiast platform would become useful only for people that want tri-GPU setup or more.

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@klunt_bumskrint said:
@MK-Professor said:

Maybe it is finally worthwhile to upgrade from my ancient x58

Yup. Lol, x58 is a bit long in the tooth.

Really worth the money, along with X79.

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@BassMan said:

I am holding out for the i7 Crystallake 8700K: Jason Vorhees killer edition.

Lol. I just realise what you typed.

That probably would be an i13 Fridaylake. xD

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@Coseniath said:
@BassMan said:

I am holding out for the i7 Crystallake 8700K: Jason Vorhees killer edition.

Lol. I just realise what you typed.

That probably would be an i13 Fridaylake. xD

It took a while for somebody to catch on, but glad you did. hehe :)

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@klunt_bumskrint said:
@MK-Professor said:

Maybe it is finally worthwhile to upgrade from my ancient x58

Yup. Lol, x58 is a bit long in the tooth.

Yup I am 7 years with the same platform for a reason...

6700K OC - Cinebench_R15 score 1007

x5650 OC - Cinebench_R15 score 1004 (on a 7 years old platform)

http://s18.postimg.org/aklg4ot15/x5650_cinebench_R15.png

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2015/08/05/intel-skylake-review/5