I mean check is out, We are getting 8800GTS for $300.....$50 less the a 1950XTX. The 8600 Ultra and GT are next month, looking great at under $200, They are topping out 7950GTs at this price with 64 shaders, 500Mhz Core, 1400Mhz Memory, 512 VRAM all for under $200. Remembr prices should drop on the 8800 series too with the 8900 series with a unlocked/overclock G80 in it. Nvidia has gone CRAZY.
As for ATI and the R600, We have yet to see a final pciture even,not even benchmarks,and overall nothing. I mean just today they say it MIGHT be water cooled. I am guessing a price point of $500-$700 remember ATI is more pricey the Nvidia. The thing is a HUGE too, I am sure $100 to get a new bigger mobo and case is out the the question. I am sorry the card is missing value
I am sorry, I would rather get SLI 8600 Ultras then get a R600 that will give me the same performance for more $$$$
I agree. Nvidia certainly have increased pressure on ATI/AMD with G80. Even the specs for the 8300 look promising at under $80 ! Fantastic value, and if those specs are correct, the 8600 and 8900 cards will be really popular.
I agree. Nvidia certainly have increased pressure on ATI/AMD with G80. Even the specs for the 8300 look promising at under $80 ! Fantastic value, and if those specs are correct, the 8600 and 8900 cards will be really popular.Cyborg-21
Yeah, with a budget like mine, and pretty much no income, a 8300 gt looks sorta tempting :)
[QUOTE="Cyborg-21"]I agree. Nvidia certainly have increased pressure on ATI/AMD with G80. Even the specs for the 8300 look promising at under $80 ! Fantastic value, and if those specs are correct, the 8600 and 8900 cards will be really popular.el_carl
Yeah, with a budget like mine, and pretty much no income, a 8300 gt looks sorta tempting :) I expect the 8300GT will be like a 7600GT with DX10 features.
[QUOTE="el_carl"][QUOTE="Cyborg-21"]I agree. Nvidia certainly have increased pressure on ATI/AMD with G80. Even the specs for the 8300 look promising at under $80 ! Fantastic value, and if those specs are correct, the 8600 and 8900 cards will be really popular.Cyborg-21
Yeah, with a budget like mine, and pretty much no income, a 8300 gt looks sorta tempting :) I expect the 8300GT will be like a 7600GT with DX10 features. I am 15, And sure I have the usual under 18, Extremely restricted job where you can only work like.....15 hours a week. I find it great that I can afford a high-end GPU with saving like mad.
[QUOTE="el_carl"][QUOTE="Cyborg-21"]I agree. Nvidia certainly have increased pressure on ATI/AMD with G80. Even the specs for the 8300 look promising at under $80 ! Fantastic value, and if those specs are correct, the 8600 and 8900 cards will be really popular.Cyborg-21
Yeah, with a budget like mine, and pretty much no income, a 8300 gt looks sorta tempting :) I expect the 8300GT will be like a 7600GT with DX10 features. Oooh... Thats a good deal, since 7600 gt's are like $100
1. 3rd Party companies can do the watercooling if they want too. Uber Editions theyre called and will be clocked higher, much higher then the stock 750ghz.
2. the GTX is bigger then the retail version of the XTX. GTX is 10.5" and XTX retail is 9.5". OEM version will be 12".
3. Prices can be higher, considering on paper, the XTX beats the GTX. Im sure benchmarks will be the same. After the XTX and XTX2, the cards will be on par with nVidia. Dont think AMD is not gonna be bringing there competitive pricing with them. They already held back ATI from softlaunching the card, which was ATIs biggest problem. The cards will all be on par with eachother, maybe not close off the bat, cause nVidia will doa price drop to mess around with AMD sales. But they will drop soon after launch, except the top cards. Until nvidia releases a 8900 series that can compete with it.
4. nVidia can do lower prices cause they launched a long time ago, where ATI has been working on this card longer just for Vista, not a pre- Vista release.
5. 8600Ultras in SLI will not be the power of a XTX or XTX2. The Ultra will roughly be around the power of 7900gt. The GTX is more powerful then 2 x 7900gtx in SLI. The XTX supposed to be faster then a GTX. Also remember, the 8600Ultra is a rumor card. It hasnt shown up on price lists.
I agree w/ the topic creator. I've been using Nvidia chips since I had a Riva 128 back in '97. The Geforce Go 7950 GTX I got in my new laptop is just amazing.
1. 3rd Party companies can do the watercooling if they want too. Uber Editions theyre called and will be clocked higher, much higher then the stock 750ghz.
2. the GTX is bigger then the retail version of the XTX. GTX is 10.5" and XTX retail is 9.5". OEM version will be 12".
3. Prices can be higher, considering on paper, the XTX beats the GTX. Im sure benchmarks will be the same. After the XTX and XTX2, the cards will be on par with nVidia. Dont think AMD is not gonna be bringing there competitive pricing with them. They already held back ATI from softlaunching the card, which was ATIs biggest problem. The cards will all be on par with eachother, maybe not close off the bat, cause nVidia will doa price drop to mess around with AMD sales. But they will drop soon after launch, except the top cards. Until nvidia releases a 8900 series that can compete with it.
4. nVidia can do lower prices cause they launched a long time ago, where ATI has been working on this card longer just for Vista, not a pre- Vista release.
5. 8600Ultras in SLI will not be the power of a XTX or XTX2. The Ultra will roughly be around the power of 7900gt. The GTX is more powerful then 2 x 7900gtx in SLI. The XTX supposed to be faster then a GTX. Also remember, the 8600Ultra is a rumor card. It hasnt shown up on price lists. 9mmSpliff
If this is true, then the 8000 series is not comparably the the 7000 series itn meaning of shaders and clock speeds?
[QUOTE="aft_lizard01"]Its a shame then that nVidias drivers for Vista are absolute crap, I have already decided to go back to ATI once the R600's are out.Miguel16
they really are that bad huh? what exactly is the problem with them
3D gaming performance is extremely slow and sluggish, but it should be ok in about a month or so... probably just in time to try and spoil the R600's release.
[QUOTE="Miguel16"][QUOTE="aft_lizard01"]Its a shame then that nVidias drivers for Vista are absolute crap, I have already decided to go back to ATI once the R600's are out.Lukozer
they really are that bad huh? what exactly is the problem with them
3D gaming performance is extremely slow and sluggish, but it should be ok in about a month or so... probably just in time to try and spoil the R600's release.
[QUOTE="aft_lizard01"]Its a shame then that nVidias drivers for Vista are absolute crap, I have already decided to go back to ATI once the R600's are out.Miguel16
they really are that bad huh? what exactly is the problem with them Gaming is slow - and the photo gallery refuses to work for some reason (it cause the GPU to output corrupt video).
[QUOTE="Miguel16"][QUOTE="aft_lizard01"]Its a shame then that nVidias drivers for Vista are absolute crap, I have already decided to go back to ATI once the R600's are out.Lukozer
they really are that bad huh? what exactly is the problem with them
3D gaming performance is extremely slow and sluggish, but it should be ok in about a month or so... probably just in time to try and spoil the R600's release.
Thats not the only issue, many with 7900 series and some other series get a garbled screen from sleep or the screen saver, sometimes in games it will just randomly start garbling the image. I am personally forced to go with a low end nVidia card until they fix this issue, my 7900GT KO + vista= big time head aches.
[QUOTE="Miguel16"][QUOTE="aft_lizard01"]Its a shame then that nVidias drivers for Vista are absolute crap, I have already decided to go back to ATI once the R600's are out.aft_lizard01
they really are that bad huh? what exactly is the problem with them
3D gaming performance is extremely slow and sluggish, but it should be ok in about a month or so... probably just in time to try and spoil the R600's release.
Thats not the only issue, many with 7900 series and some other series get a garbled screen from sleep or the screen saver, sometimes in games it will just randomly start garbling the image. I am personally forced to go with a low end nVidia card until they fix this issue, my 7900GT KO + vista= big time head aches. hmm cus my 7600GT works perfectly fine with vista
[QUOTE="9mmSpliff"]1. 3rd Party companies can do the watercooling if they want too. Uber Editions theyre called and will be clocked higher, much higher then the stock 750ghz.
2. the GTX is bigger then the retail version of the XTX. GTX is 10.5" and XTX retail is 9.5". OEM version will be 12".
3. Prices can be higher, considering on paper, the XTX beats the GTX. Im sure benchmarks will be the same. After the XTX and XTX2, the cards will be on par with nVidia. Dont think AMD is not gonna be bringing there competitive pricing with them. They already held back ATI from softlaunching the card, which was ATIs biggest problem. The cards will all be on par with eachother, maybe not close off the bat, cause nVidia will doa price drop to mess around with AMD sales. But they will drop soon after launch, except the top cards. Until nvidia releases a 8900 series that can compete with it.
4. nVidia can do lower prices cause they launched a long time ago, where ATI has been working on this card longer just for Vista, not a pre- Vista release.
5. 8600Ultras in SLI will not be the power of a XTX or XTX2. The Ultra will roughly be around the power of 7900gt. The GTX is more powerful then 2 x 7900gtx in SLI. The XTX supposed to be faster then a GTX. Also remember, the 8600Ultra is a rumor card. It hasnt shown up on price lists. Xbox360gamer1
If this is true, then the 8000 series is not comparably the the 7000 series itn meaning of shaders and clock speeds? I was just giving you an idea of where the Ultra would be in terms of performance. Rumor is the GT will score around 4500 and well since the Ultra is still a rumor card, it would be near a 7950
[QUOTE="Miguel16"][QUOTE="aft_lizard01"]Its a shame then that nVidias drivers for Vista are absolute crap, I have already decided to go back to ATI once the R600's are out.aft_lizard01
they really are that bad huh? what exactly is the problem with them
3D gaming performance is extremely slow and sluggish, but it should be ok in about a month or so... probably just in time to try and spoil the R600's release.
Thats not the only issue, many with 7900 series and some other series get a garbled screen from sleep or the screen saver, sometimes in games it will just randomly start garbling the image. I am personally forced to go with a low end nVidia card until they fix this issue, my 7900GT KO + vista= big time head aches. just be glad youre not on the 64bit version....Wow.
[QUOTE="Miguel16"][QUOTE="aft_lizard01"]Its a shame then that nVidias drivers for Vista are absolute crap, I have already decided to go back to ATI once the R600's are out.Miguel16
they really are that bad huh? what exactly is the problem with them
3D gaming performance is extremely slow and sluggish, but it should be ok in about a month or so... probably just in time to try and spoil the R600's release.
Thats not the only issue, many with 7900 series and some other series get a garbled screen from sleep or the screen saver, sometimes in games it will just randomly start garbling the image. I am personally forced to go with a low end nVidia card until they fix this issue, my 7900GT KO + vista= big time head aches. hmm cus my 7600GT works perfectly fine with vista Well geez thats because perhaps its not a 7900 series card LIKE I SAID............
[QUOTE="Miguel16"][QUOTE="aft_lizard01"]Its a shame then that nVidias drivers for Vista are absolute crap, I have already decided to go back to ATI once the R600's are out.9mmSpliff
they really are that bad huh? what exactly is the problem with them
3D gaming performance is extremely slow and sluggish, but it should be ok in about a month or so... probably just in time to try and spoil the R600's release.
Thats not the only issue, many with 7900 series and some other series get a garbled screen from sleep or the screen saver, sometimes in games it will just randomly start garbling the image. I am personally forced to go with a low end nVidia card until they fix this issue, my 7900GT KO + vista= big time head aches. just be glad youre not on the 64bit version....Wow.
Why? I'm using the 64bit version and the only issue i have is the sluggish 3D gaming performance (using a 7800GTX)
[QUOTE="Miguel16"][QUOTE="aft_lizard01"]Its a shame then that nVidias drivers for Vista are absolute crap, I have already decided to go back to ATI once the R600's are out.aft_lizard01
they really are that bad huh? what exactly is the problem with them
3D gaming performance is extremely slow and sluggish, but it should be ok in about a month or so... probably just in time to try and spoil the R600's release.
Thats not the only issue, many with 7900 series and some other series get a garbled screen from sleep or the screen saver, sometimes in games it will just randomly start garbling the image. I am personally forced to go with a low end nVidia card until they fix this issue, my 7900GT KO + vista= big time head aches. hmm cus my 7600GT works perfectly fine with vista Well geez thats because perhaps its not a 7900 series card LIKE I SAID............ alright man chill chill
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