Higher resolutions on consoles

Just wondering if someone could clarify this for me.

Obviously when you up the res. in a pc game the fps will drop.

However if you do this with a console it will stay the same. Is this because the console upscales the image using methods that do not put extra strain on the hardware? How is this done?

Cheers.

who said the fps will stay the same on a console ?

on a PC, you increase the resolution, and when you first had 100k pixels of colors your system handles it
when there are 1 000k pixels to give color, it is a lot harder for your system

now, on a console, here is what happens : the devs game the game for 1080p and optimizes it at 1080p with 60fps
so if you have a full hd tv, you run at at 1080p and 60fps, if you have a hd ready tv, most of the time it will "downsize" to 1080i (wich isn't really downsized because it has the same amout of pixels)

now if you take that 1080p game and decide to play it at 720p, it will stay on 60fps simply because the dev team didn't optimize the game to put ressources somewhere else

the game (or the engine) threats your game like if it was a 1080p and plays it at 60fps, but it is the system that downsizes it

Games like CoD4 or Halo 3 are rendered at 600P or 640P, respectively. When you up the resolution, the image is simply upscaled. However, if a games runs nativly at 1080P, you're getting a real 1080P picture.kodex1717

[QUOTE="kodex1717"]Games like CoD4 or Halo 3 are rendered at 600P or 640P, respectively. When you up the resolution, the image is simply upscaled. However, if a games runs nativly at 1080P, you're getting a real 1080P picture.yoyo462001

The bolded part isn't necessarily true. 720p is the standard Microsoft chose, but that doesn't mean games can't run natively in 1080p. I think Vitrua Tennis was native 1080p. It's true that most are 720, and upscaled to 1080p.

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="kodex1717"]Games like CoD4 or Halo 3 are rendered at 600P or 640P, respectively. When you up the resolution, the image is simply upscaled. However, if a games runs nativly at 1080P, you're getting a real 1080P picture.Fignewton50

The bolded part isn't necessarily true. 720p is the standard Microsoft chose, but that doesn't mean games can't run natively in 1080p. I think Vitrua Tennis was native 1080p. It's true that most are 720, and upscaled to 1080p.

[QUOTE="kodex1717"]Games like CoD4 or Halo 3 are rendered at 600P or 640P, respectively. When you up the resolution, the image is simply upscaled. However, if a games runs nativly at 1080P, you're getting a real 1080P picture.yoyo462001

Also, I rarely hear of anyone playing above 1080P, even with PC games. The monitors that display the resolutions are very expensive and games have a hard time being rendered at those resolutions on current hardware.

[QUOTE="kodex1717"]Games like CoD4 or Halo 3 are rendered at 600P or 640P, respectively. When you up the resolution, the image is simply upscaled. However, if a games runs nativly at 1080P, you're getting a real 1080P picture.yoyo462001

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="kodex1717"]Games like CoD4 or Halo 3 are rendered at 600P or 640P, respectively. When you up the resolution, the image is simply upscaled. However, if a games runs nativly at 1080P, you're getting a real 1080P picture.kodex1717

Also, I rarely hear of anyone playing above 1080P, even with PC games. The monitors that display the resolutions are very expensive and games have a hard time being rendered at those resolutions on current hardware.

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="kodex1717"]Games like CoD4 or Halo 3 are rendered at 600P or 640P, respectively. When you up the resolution, the image is simply upscaled. However, if a games runs nativly at 1080P, you're getting a real 1080P picture.kodex1717

Also, I rarely hear of anyone playing above 1080P, even with PC games. The monitors that display the resolutions are very expensive and games have a hard time being rendered at those resolutions on current hardware.

this is such a wrong information. every 24" monitor has a resolution higher than 1080p (1920x1080) 24" (1920x1200) and that what i play with. every game except for crysis runs at a full 60fps at this resolution with AA enable and my 8800gts card. 24": monitor starts at $250 (SOYO)

[QUOTE="kodex1717"]

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="kodex1717"]Games like CoD4 or Halo 3 are rendered at 600P or 640P, respectively. When you up the resolution, the image is simply upscaled. However, if a games runs nativly at 1080P, you're getting a real 1080P picture.kingofrome

Also, I rarely hear of anyone playing above 1080P, even with PC games. The monitors that display the resolutions are very expensive and games have a hard time being rendered at those resolutions on current hardware.

this is such a wrong information. every 24" monitor has a resolution higher than 1080p (1920x1080) 24" (1920x1200) and that what i play with. every game except for crysis runs at a full 60fps at this resolution with AA enable and my 8800gts card. 24": monitor starts at $250 (SOYO)

So I play at 1360 x 768 for most games. That is 720p. But if I add AA like 2x or 4x it will look better than a console at 1080p?

So I play at 1360 x 768 for most games. That is 720p. But if I add AA like 2x or 4x it will look better than a console at 1080p?

ndrewn

And consoles dont run most of their games in 1080p.The games that they do run in 1080p are very rear.Heck call of duty 4 and halo 3 run below 720p in 600p and 640p respectively.

xbox 360's have 4 processors, 512 MB of DDR3, and a 64bit OSmoab-doug

this is such a wrong information. every 24" monitor has a resolution higher than 1080p (1920x1080) 24" (1920x1200) and that what i play with. every game except for crysis runs at a full 60fps at this resolution with AA enable and my 8800gts card. 24": monitor starts at $250 (SOYO) kingofrome

I think you're nitpicking here. A) That's not all that much higher than 1080P, and B) most people don't play at that resolution. Besides, when I was typing that comment, I had 30" displays in mind. Though, I suppose I could have made that clear.

By the way, I'd like to see you run "every game" at 60FPS with that hardware.

[QUOTE="kingofrome"]this is such a wrong information. every 24" monitor has a resolution higher than 1080p (1920x1080) 24" (1920x1200) and that what i play with. every game except for crysis runs at a full 60fps at this resolution with AA enable and my 8800gts card. 24": monitor starts at $250 (SOYO) kodex1717

I think you're nitpicking here. A) That's not all that much higher than 1080P, and B) most people don't play at that resolution. Besides, when I was typing that comment, I had 30" displays in mind. Though, I suppose I could have made that clear.

By the way, I'd like to see you run "every game" at 60FPS with that hardware.