GTX 660 TI vs HD 7950 vs GTX 670 overclocked benchmarks!

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#1 Posted by kalipekona (2491 posts) -

For all of you wondering how the GTX 660 TI stacks up against the HD 7950 when both cards are fully overclocked, here is the review you have been waiting for.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/08/23/galaxy_gtx_660_ti_gc_oc_vs_670_hd_7950/

I think it is safe to say that with the HD 7950 now selling for $299.99 it easily wins the price/performance crown. That said, I am very surprised by how close the overclocked performance of the GTX 660 TI is to the overclocked performance of the GTX 670. All of these are great cards, but I would go for a GTX 660 TI at $300 over the GTX 670 at $400. And, of course, the HD 7950 at $300 is the best deal of them all.

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#2 Posted by Tabris91 (7779 posts) -

Here the 660 Ti actually costs more than the 7950, so it's a no brainer really.

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#3 Posted by ronvalencia (25410 posts) -

For all of you wondering how the GTX 660 TI stacks up against the HD 7950 when both cards are fully overclocked, here is the review you have been waiting for.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/08/23/galaxy_gtx_660_ti_gc_oc_vs_670_hd_7950/

I think it is safe to say that with the HD 7950 now selling for $299.99 it easily wins the price/performance crown. That said, I am very surprised by how close the overclocked performance of the GTX 660 TI is to the overclocked performance of the GTX 670. All of these are great cards, but I would go for a GTX 660 TI at $300 over the GTX 670 at $400. And, of course, the HD 7950 at $300 is the best deal of them all.

kalipekona
660 uses the same chip as 670.
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#4 Posted by kalipekona (2491 posts) -

[QUOTE="kalipekona"]

For all of you wondering how the GTX 660 TI stacks up against the HD 7950 when both cards are fully overclocked, here is the review you have been waiting for.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/08/23/galaxy_gtx_660_ti_gc_oc_vs_670_hd_7950/

I think it is safe to say that with the HD 7950 now selling for $299.99 it easily wins the price/performance crown. That said, I am very surprised by how close the overclocked performance of the GTX 660 TI is to the overclocked performance of the GTX 670. All of these are great cards, but I would go for a GTX 660 TI at $300 over the GTX 670 at $400. And, of course, the HD 7950 at $300 is the best deal of them all.

ronvalencia

660 uses the same chip as 670.

True. A lot of people were simply wondering how the lower memory bandwidth would affect its performance. As it turns out, when you overclock the memory you can reach bandwidths close to those on a stock GTX 670. Given the performance, I think the GTX 660 Ti offers a better value than the GTX 670.

The standout for me, though, is the HD 7950. When overclocked, its performance is greater on average than both the GTX 660 Ti and the GTX 670 (also overclocked). This is amazing because it is now selling for around the same price as the GTX 660 Ti and $100 less than the GTX 670.

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#5 Posted by Guovssohas (330 posts) -
Right now the 7950 has incredible value, it simply can't be ignored.
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#6 Posted by mitu123 (155186 posts) -

That 660 Ti only has 2GB VRAM though...no sale from me.

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#7 Posted by ShadowDeathX (11614 posts) -
Yeah the 7950 is a beast of a card for the price. If I waited till now, I would have bought three 7950's instead of two 7970's I have now. I bought the 7970's when they were $475 soo yeah =/. The price of then and now would have been the same and I would have gotten much more performance. One 7950 per Monitor for an Eyefinity set up. :) Oh well, these 7970's are pretty amazing so I can't complain. 40% overclock without increasing the voltage? That is pure amazing.
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#8 Posted by Toxic-Seahorse (4990 posts) -
I'm heavily considering a 7950 now. Of course that would have to be out of the money I've been saving up for the Wii U. ah, tough decisions. :P
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#9 Posted by ninedot (115 posts) -
Considering the fact that the gtx 670 is nipping at the heels of the 7950 and also that the 660ti is basically a non-overclocked version of the 670.. I think it's same to assume that the 660ti is the better choice.
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#10 Posted by kalipekona (2491 posts) -

I'm heavily considering a 7950 now. Of course that would have to be out of the money I've been saving up for the Wii U. ah, tough decisions. :PToxic-Seahorse

You can get the HIS IceQ HD 7950 at Newegg and Amazon for only $299.99 right now (with free shipping). This is less expensive than any of the GTX 660 Ti models with decent aftermarket cooling solutions.

Greater than GTX 670 performance for $100 less money. That's an amazing deal if you ask me.

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#12 Posted by kalipekona (2491 posts) -

That 660 Ti only has 2GB VRAM though...no sale from me.

mitu123

Yeah, and a 192 bit memory bus. That's one of the reasons I went with the HD 7950: it has 3GB of memory and a 384-bit bus. This makes it likely to be better for mods and future games that are more memory-intensive/ bandwidth-intensive.

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#13 Posted by Toxic-Seahorse (4990 posts) -

[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"]I'm heavily considering a 7950 now. Of course that would have to be out of the money I've been saving up for the Wii U. ah, tough decisions. :Pkalipekona

You can get the HIS IceQ HD 7950 at Newegg and Amazon for only $299.99 right now (with free shipping). This is less expensive than any of the GTX 660 Ti models with decent aftermarket cooling solutions.

Greater than GTX 670 performance for $100 less money. That's an amazing deal if you ask me.

I was actually thinking about going with XFX again because of the lifetime warranty. A 2 year warranty just isn't enough for me to feel comfortable with. $300is fantastic though, kinda hard to pass up on. I probably won't be buying one until a week or two so I have plenty of time to decide.

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#14 Posted by mitu123 (155186 posts) -

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

That 660 Ti only has 2GB VRAM though...no sale from me.

kalipekona

Yeah, and a 192 bit memory bus. That's one of the reasons I went with the HD 7950: it has 3GB of memory and a 384-bit bus. This makes it likely to be better for mods and future games that are more memory-intensive/ bandwidth-intensive.

You made the right choice.:)

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#15 Posted by kaitanuvax (3814 posts) -

I've been kind of absent from this forum and the comp hard market in general this year, but damn. Isn't the 7950 considerably older than the GTX 670 (and of course the recenty released 660TI)? From the looks of those avg FPS, it beats the GTX 670 (a card that costs $100 more) by a small but noticeable margin, and just toys with the 660TI.

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#16 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6680 posts) -

i thought the 7950 and the 7970 are weaker than the 670 gtx? I guess this is what happens when nvidia cuts out a couple hundred million transistors on their cards to milk their fan base. So I guess this makes the 7970 the video card king again?

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#17 Posted by kalipekona (2491 posts) -

i thought the 7950 and the 7970 are weaker than the 670 gtx? I guess this is what happens when nvidia cuts out a couple hundred million transistors on their cards to milk their fan base. So I guess this makes the 7970 the video card king again?

blaznwiipspman1

Well, part of it is because AMD's drivers have increased performance, and the other part is because the GTX 670is faster than the HD 7950 at stock speeds. With a good overclock, though, the HD 7950 and GTX 670 are very close in performance, with the HD 7950 having the edge according to these benchmarks.

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#18 Posted by Lox_Cropek (3555 posts) -

That 660 Ti only has 2GB VRAM though...no sale from me.

mitu123

What about the 3GB models? Like this one

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#19 Posted by mitu123 (155186 posts) -

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

That 660 Ti only has 2GB VRAM though...no sale from me.

Lox_Cropek

What about the 3GB models? Like this one

Looks good but it's not up to my 4GB 670.
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#20 Posted by hartsickdiscipl (14787 posts) -

I'm mainly an Nvidia guy, but the 7950 is the best deal among the 3 right now. At $300-320, you can't touch that card. The GTX 670 2GB is too expensive in comparison. The 4GB model is even more, and offers little to no benefit over a 3GB 7950/7970. 3GB is more than enough right now. Then you have to factor in that the 7950 has far superior memory bandwidth, which is probably more important than the amount of VRAM... especially when we're dealing with GPUs this powerful.

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#21 Posted by mitu123 (155186 posts) -

i thought the 7950 and the 7970 are weaker than the 670 gtx? I guess this is what happens when nvidia cuts out a couple hundred million transistors on their cards to milk their fan base. So I guess this makes the 7970 the video card king again?

blaznwiipspman1

It's game dependent, in some games the 7950 is close to a 670 while in others the 670 destroys a 7950.

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#22 Posted by RE4WiiGirl (1144 posts) -

Hey guys,

Im having this trouble deciding myself atm between 2gb Gigabyte 670 oc or the 3gb Gigabyte Radeon HD7950. I am a first time builder and will be using it for games mainly. No SLi or Crossfire any of that stuff. Heres my parts so far:

http://pcpartpicker.com/au/p/l8rv with the 670 oc

http://pcpartpicker.com/au/p/l8AWwith the 7950 oc

*ignore the PSU on both as the site doesnt have the model Antec VP 650w.


What are your thoughts on the comparison of the 670 and the 7950? Is one much better than the other? The 7950 sounds great as its around $170 cheaper, but im wondering if the reason is that the 670 is better? Wanting to play Crysis 3 on good/high settings, if this helps you decide lol.

More info on trying to pick my partshttp://au.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29201439/building-new-pc-help-me-pick-parts?page=2

Much thanks!

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#23 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6680 posts) -

Hey guys,

Im having this trouble deciding myself atm between 2gb Gigabyte 670 oc or the 3gb Gigabyte Radeon HD7950. I am a first time builder and will be using it for games mainly. No SLi or Crossfire any of that stuff. Heres my parts so far:

http://pcpartpicker.com/au/p/l8rv with the 670 oc

http://pcpartpicker.com/au/p/l8AWwith the 7950 oc

*ignore the PSU on both as the site doesnt have the model Antec VP 650w.


What are your thoughts on the comparison of the 670 and the 7950? Is one much better than the other? The 7950 sounds great as its around $170 cheaper, but im wondering if the reason is that the 670 is better? Wanting to play Crysis 3 on good/high settings, if this helps you decide lol.

More info on trying to pick my partshttp://au.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29201439/building-new-pc-help-me-pick-parts?page=2

Much thanks!

RE4WiiGirl

7950 overclocked would be my choice, especially at $170 cheaper. Here in Canada and the US, the 7950 actually forced the price of the 670 gtx downwards closer to $350, in fact Ive seen it go for $300 after rebates on special sales. So definitely, the 7950 is a great choice and will play crysis 2 fine (crysis 3 isnt out yet and wont be for a few years)

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#24 Posted by RE4WiiGirl (1144 posts) -

[QUOTE="RE4WiiGirl"]

Hey guys,

Im having this trouble deciding myself atm between 2gb Gigabyte 670 oc or the 3gb Gigabyte Radeon HD7950. I am a first time builder and will be using it for games mainly. No SLi or Crossfire any of that stuff. Heres my parts so far:

http://pcpartpicker.com/au/p/l8rv with the 670 oc

http://pcpartpicker.com/au/p/l8AWwith the 7950 oc

*ignore the PSU on both as the site doesnt have the model Antec VP 650w.


What are your thoughts on the comparison of the 670 and the 7950? Is one much better than the other? The 7950 sounds great as its around $170 cheaper, but im wondering if the reason is that the 670 is better? Wanting to play Crysis 3 on good/high settings, if this helps you decide lol.

More info on trying to pick my partshttp://au.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29201439/building-new-pc-help-me-pick-parts?page=2

Much thanks!

blaznwiipspman1

7950 overclocked would be my choice, especially at $170 cheaper. Here in Canada and the US, the 7950 actually forced the price of the 670 gtx downwards closer to $350, in fact Ive seen it go for $300 after rebates on special sales. So definitely, the 7950 is a great choice and will play crysis 2 fine (crysis 3 isnt out yet and wont be for a few years)

Crysis 3 comes out in Feb! lol:P

Are these both factory OC, so I dont have to do anything to them myself? Thanks for the info though :)

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#25 Posted by Yagnav (6107 posts) -

Quick question...how would a 2 way crossfire 7950 do vs a single 7970 OC'd in a 3 monitor eyefinity setup ??

Anandtech dosen't have one for a 7950 crossfire but would sure like to see some bechmarks and graphs on this.

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#26 Posted by Tabris91 (7779 posts) -

Quick question...how would a 2 way crossfire 7950 do vs a single 7970 OC'd in a 3 monitor eyefinity setup ??

Yagnav

7970 would get stomped.

Plus you would just OC the 7950s too, it's criminal not to.

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#27 Posted by Yagnav (6107 posts) -

[QUOTE="Yagnav"]

Quick question...how would a 2 way crossfire 7950 do vs a single 7970 OC'd in a 3 monitor eyefinity setup ??

Postmortem123

7970 would get stomped.

Plus you would just OC the 7950s too, it's criminal not to.

Yea but can it run Crysis 3 ? :P
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#28 Posted by Tabris91 (7779 posts) -

[QUOTE="Postmortem123"]

[QUOTE="Yagnav"]

Quick question...how would a 2 way crossfire 7950 do vs a single 7970 OC'd in a 3 monitor eyefinity setup ??

Yagnav

7970 would get stomped.

Plus you would just OC the 7950s too, it's criminal not to.

Yea but can it run Crysis 3 ? :P

If a console can then I'm fairly sure 2 7950s will...

Right, you mean with eyefinity. Yeah it will. Look for some eyefinity Crysis 2 results; I'd expect it to be similar.

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#29 Posted by Yagnav (6107 posts) -

Found some of those cool looking graph benchieshttp://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/radeon_hd_7950_crossfire_review_2_and_3_way,17.html

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#30 Posted by kraken2109 (13271 posts) -

Still got my eye on the GTX 660 (non TI) - seems to be great value.

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#31 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6680 posts) -

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

[QUOTE="RE4WiiGirl"]

Hey guys,

Im having this trouble deciding myself atm between 2gb Gigabyte 670 oc or the 3gb Gigabyte Radeon HD7950. I am a first time builder and will be using it for games mainly. No SLi or Crossfire any of that stuff. Heres my parts so far:

http://pcpartpicker.com/au/p/l8rv with the 670 oc

http://pcpartpicker.com/au/p/l8AWwith the 7950 oc

*ignore the PSU on both as the site doesnt have the model Antec VP 650w.


What are your thoughts on the comparison of the 670 and the 7950? Is one much better than the other? The 7950 sounds great as its around $170 cheaper, but im wondering if the reason is that the 670 is better? Wanting to play Crysis 3 on good/high settings, if this helps you decide lol.

More info on trying to pick my partshttp://au.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29201439/building-new-pc-help-me-pick-parts?page=2

Much thanks!

RE4WiiGirl

7950 overclocked would be my choice, especially at $170 cheaper. Here in Canada and the US, the 7950 actually forced the price of the 670 gtx downwards closer to $350, in fact Ive seen it go for $300 after rebates on special sales. So definitely, the 7950 is a great choice and will play crysis 2 fine (crysis 3 isnt out yet and wont be for a few years)

Crysis 3 comes out in Feb! lol:P

Are these both factory OC, so I dont have to do anything to them myself? Thanks for the info though :)

you could probably push the cards even further, since factory oc is usually weak sauce. If you are going for the 7950, look for the ghz edition, it is the best one. I didnt know about crysis...damn thats going to be awesome. Anyways, if you're building for cry 3, then wait until it comes out then start your build. Im pretty sure the radeon 8000 series will be out by then and maybe the geforce 7xx series. No need to rush, take it easy.

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#32 Posted by RE4WiiGirl (1144 posts) -

[QUOTE="RE4WiiGirl"]

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

7950 overclocked would be my choice, especially at $170 cheaper. Here in Canada and the US, the 7950 actually forced the price of the 670 gtx downwards closer to $350, in fact Ive seen it go for $300 after rebates on special sales. So definitely, the 7950 is a great choice and will play crysis 2 fine (crysis 3 isnt out yet and wont be for a few years)

blaznwiipspman1

Crysis 3 comes out in Feb! lol:P

Are these both factory OC, so I dont have to do anything to them myself? Thanks for the info though :)

you could probably push the cards even further, since factory oc is usually weak sauce. If you are going for the 7950, look for the ghz edition, it is the best one. I didnt know about crysis...damn thats going to be awesome. Anyways, if you're building for cry 3, then wait until it comes out then start your build. Im pretty sure the radeon 8000 series will be out by then and maybe the geforce 7xx series. No need to rush, take it easy.

Whats the ghz edition? Can u see it herehttp://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=193_1311&vk_sort=1sorry its just im buying from them.
YES it comes in Feb :D ! You should Follow the game on here and get updates, did u play the others?
Seriously... wait 4 months for my rebuild? Naww ive been doing this all year and putting it off and now ive picked all my parts I have to wait again, and by then everything will have changed they will be new everything and ill start from scratch :(
If u guys think its a good idea ill wait, I mean I want it to run well and Ill be very very busy working over xmas anyway, therefore make more monies to buy better pc :D !
I had no idea about gtx 700s coming out, do u reckon theyll be competitors to the 8000? How do u know they will even be out then?
Thanks for all the info!

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#33 Posted by Horgen (116404 posts) -

7950 overclocked would be my choice, especially at $170 cheaper. Here in Canada and the US, the 7950 actually forced the price of the 670 gtx downwards closer to $350, in fact Ive seen it go for $300 after rebates on special sales. So definitely, the 7950 is a great choice and will play crysis 2 fine (crysis 3 isnt out yet and wont be for a few years)

blaznwiipspman1
170$ less for the 7950 than the GTX 670? I would easily pick the 7950 then. Unless the few extra FPS you get with the 670 is worth another 170$ for you.
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#34 Posted by RE4WiiGirl (1144 posts) -

Hmm... should I just get the 7950, or wait for the 8000s / 700s, which could be god knows when?
Well, I guess it comes down to do u guys think this http://pcpartpicker.com/au/p/l8AWwill happily run Crysis 3 on good graphics? Will it s*** itself after 3 hours of constant play lol? :(
Your input is taken seriously and ill prob build/wait on what u guys think.

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#35 Posted by AlexTracy (94 posts) -
cant beat the gtx660 for only like $230. Then sli later and outperform a flip'n GTX680
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#36 Posted by ronvalencia (25410 posts) -

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

i thought the 7950 and the 7970 are weaker than the 670 gtx? I guess this is what happens when nvidia cuts out a couple hundred million transistors on their cards to milk their fan base. So I guess this makes the 7970 the video card king again?

mitu123

It's game dependent, in some games the 7950 is close to a 670 while in others the 670 destroys a 7950.

In some games, the 7950 beats to a 670.

For example,

LL

http://techreport.com/review/23150/amd-radeon-hd-7970-ghz-edition/6

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http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/medal_of_honor_warfighter_graphics_vga_performance_review,6.html

In some games, the 7950 BE matches a 670.

index.php?ct=articles&action=file&id=921

http://techreport.com/review/23779/amd-ramps-up-its-gaming-evolved-program

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#37 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6680 posts) -

Hmm... should I just get the 7950, or wait for the 8000s / 700s, which could be god knows when?
Well, I guess it comes down to do u guys think this http://pcpartpicker.com/au/p/l8AWwill happily run Crysis 3 on good graphics? Will it s*** itself after 3 hours of constant play lol? :(
Your input is taken seriously and ill prob build/wait on what u guys think.

RE4WiiGirl

are you in an emergency situation where you don't have a computer? Are there any other games that you're interested in between now and february when crysis 3 releases? If no then just wait a bit longer. It may true that waiting for the next new thing might mean you'll be waiting forever, but its pretty dumb to upgrade hardware for software that hasn't even released yet. I personally think a 7950/7970 or 670/680 will be enough to almost max out crysis 3, but the new gen video cards will probably step up the game even further. AMD releases graphics cards yearly, the longest gap between generations being about 14 months. The 7000 series released at the end of December 2011, so im guessing the 8000 series will come out by January or latest by february/ march 2013. The geforce 700 series probably won't release till may of 2013.

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#38 Posted by redskins26rocs (2674 posts) -
was going to get the 670 ftw but changed my mind, now i am going to be getting the msi twin frozr 7950 for my new build after the holidays
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#39 Posted by RE4WiiGirl (1144 posts) -

[QUOTE="RE4WiiGirl"]

Hmm... should I just get the 7950, or wait for the 8000s / 700s, which could be god knows when?
Well, I guess it comes down to do u guys think this http://pcpartpicker.com/au/p/l8AWwill happily run Crysis 3 on good graphics? Will it s*** itself after 3 hours of constant play lol? :(
Your input is taken seriously and ill prob build/wait on what u guys think.

blaznwiipspman1

are you in an emergency situation where you don't have a computer? Are there any other games that you're interested in between now and february when crysis 3 releases? If no then just wait a bit longer. It may true that waiting for the next new thing might mean you'll be waiting forever, but its pretty dumb to upgrade hardware for software that hasn't even released yet. I personally think a 7950/7970 or 670/680 will be enough to almost max out crysis 3, but the new gen video cards will probably step up the game even further. AMD releases graphics cards yearly, the longest gap between generations being about 14 months. The 7000 series released at the end of December 2011, so im guessing the 8000 series will come out by January or latest by february/ march 2013. The geforce 700 series probably won't release till may of 2013.

No no thats not it, its just if I wait till.. whenever, and upgrade for better parts, I might have to start from scratch again? Maybe the GPU will be too good for the Mobo and ill need to pick a diff one? Same with PSU, Ram needed etc? I dont know... :(:cry:
Do u reckon I might have this problem, Mobo not good enough for newer GPU and id need to pick a new one?
Im using a Macbook Pro atm, but I store all my important stuff like photos/music etc on the main pc, and its very very old and my drives are almost full (Music drive has less than 300mb?!) lol

Not waiting for any games between now and then, but there are old ones I could play in between now and then like Crysis 1, Burnout Paradise, Sims 2. Wanting to buy Crysis 3, GTA V and Watch Dogs. Not sure of GTA release but Crysis is Feb, and Watch Dogs I think might be around April/May?

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#40 Posted by ronvalencia (25410 posts) -

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="kalipekona"]

For all of you wondering how the GTX 660 TI stacks up against the HD 7950 when both cards are fully overclocked, here is the review you have been waiting for.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/08/23/galaxy_gtx_660_ti_gc_oc_vs_670_hd_7950/

I think it is safe to say that with the HD 7950 now selling for $299.99 it easily wins the price/performance crown. That said, I am very surprised by how close the overclocked performance of the GTX 660 TI is to the overclocked performance of the GTX 670. All of these are great cards, but I would go for a GTX 660 TI at $300 over the GTX 670 at $400. And, of course, the HD 7950 at $300 is the best deal of them all.

kalipekona

660 uses the same chip as 670.

True. A lot of people were simply wondering how the lower memory bandwidth would affect its performance. As it turns out, when you overclock the memory you can reach bandwidths close to those on a stock GTX 670. Given the performance, I think the GTX 660 Ti offers a better value than the GTX 670.

The standout for me, though, is the HD 7950. When overclocked, its performance is greater on average than both the GTX 660 Ti and the GTX 670 (also overclocked). This is amazing because it is now selling for around the same price as the GTX 660 Ti and $100 less than the GTX 670.

XFX designed thier 7950 with a similar PCB/cooler quality to 7970 and 7950 still has 7970's memory bus width.