Forget the 8800...Forget the G92...The R700 is what you are looking for (link)

http://news.softpedia.com/news/ATI-039-s-R700-to-support-DirectX-10-1-55321.shtml 

Yes, it's the R700, said to support DX 10.1, later to be possibly renamed DX11. DX10 may be obselete too soon. Whatever it is, this must be one beast. Is this ATi's trick up its sleeve to destroy the G92? Maybe, just maybe. Check this baby out.

I am getting this card, as long as it doesn't fail like the R600

Question: An ATi card will work with an intel mobo and cpu right? JW because I know ATi and AMD merged.

LOL, we have no clue what Nvidia or Ati cards are about on the hardware side. So it's story that say's absolutly nothing.

Just like the 2900xtx was supposed to kill G80. 

And yes any motherboard support ati/nivdia video card with intel/amd processor.

LOL, we have no clue what Nvidia or Ati cards are about on the hardware side. So it's story that say's absolutly nothing.

Just like the 2900xtx was supposed to kill G80. 

And yes any motherboard support ati/nivdia video card with intel/amd processor.

Bebi_vegeta

ya but the card already supports DX10.1 (possibly a.k.a. DX11), which is something no Nvidia cards have shown they support it.

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LOL, we have no clue what Nvidia or Ati cards are about on the hardware side. So it's story that say's absolutly nothing.

Just like the 2900xtx was supposed to kill G80.

And yes any motherboard support ati/nivdia video card with intel/amd processor.

Dopemonk736

ya but the card already supports DX10.1 (possibly a.k.a. DX11), which is something no Nvidia cards have shown they support it.

no one knows what Dx10.1 is or what it does. 

[QUOTE="Dopemonk736"]

http://news.softpedia.com/news/ATI-039-s-R700-to-support-DirectX-10-1-55321.shtml

Yes, it's the R700, said to support DX 10.1, later to be possibly renamed DX11. DX10 may be obselete too soon. Whatever it is, this must be one beast. Is this ATi's trick up its sleeve to destroy the G92? Maybe, just maybe. Check this baby out.

I am getting this card, as long as it doesn't fail like the R600

Question: An ATi card will work with an intel mobo and cpu right? JW because I know ATi and AMD merged.

Axecident

ATI sux

Thats your comment no other info, stop posting useless crap. I myself am excited to see what happens next with this video card. 

Let us see some real world benchmarks before we clain the newest best card. I just can't belive that a 3rd company doesn't see all the mistakes ATI/AMD and Nvidia are making and come in to control the video card market. I guess the profit margin is to slim.roulettethedog

Where are these mistakes?

multi core gpu..

1core entry

2cores mainstream

4-8cores high end.... that high end thing is going to be very very hot.... they will need a VERY nice cooling solution 

multi core gpu..

1core entry

2cores mainstream

4-8cores high end.... that high end thing is going to be very very hot.... they will need a VERY nice cooling solution 

rere252

Throw a very high price onto that to.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/ATI-039-s-R700-to-support-DirectX-10-1-55321.shtml

Yes, it's the R700, said to support DX 10.1, later to be possibly renamed DX11. DX10 may be obselete too soon. Whatever it is, this must be one beast. Is this ATi's trick up its sleeve to destroy the G92? Maybe, just maybe. Check this baby out.

I am getting this card, as long as it doesn't fail like the R600

Question: An ATi card will work with an intel mobo and cpu right? JW because I know ATi and AMD merged.

Dopemonk736

This has the distinct and heady aroma of SPAM! 

[QUOTE="Dopemonk736"]

http://news.softpedia.com/news/ATI-039-s-R700-to-support-DirectX-10-1-55321.shtml

Yes, it's the R700, said to support DX 10.1, later to be possibly renamed DX11. DX10 may be obselete too soon. Whatever it is, this must be one beast. Is this ATi's trick up its sleeve to destroy the G92? Maybe, just maybe. Check this baby out.

I am getting this card, as long as it doesn't fail like the R600

Question: An ATi card will work with an intel mobo and cpu right? JW because I know ATi and AMD merged.

Axecident

ATI sux

For now, yes. 

ATI/AMD has let Nvidia have the high end Dx10 card market for way to long and Nvidia's 8600 and lower mid range cards are nothing to brag about letting ATI/AMD a chance to grab market share. I just see procrastination by ATI/AMD and Nvidia looking at just right now. Is this something new or is this the pattern of these two companies before the last 2+ years that I have followed the video card market?roulettethedog

This is new...

Anyways, there is relatively no money to gain from the highend marketshare. Actually, most of the time, there is a lot of loss when going after the highend market. Seeing as how AMD needs cash, they decided to forgo the highend market and go after the most profitable area, the low-mid highend. 

multi core gpu..
1core entry
2cores mainstream
4-8cores high end.... that high end thing is going to be very very hot.... they will need a VERY nice cooling solutionrere252

Not necessarily. Say these cores are the current RV630 cores (the highend ones), they are currently using about 45w. 4 of those would actually put it right around the R600's power consumption. Now if they make even more improvements or use even lesser cores, then power consumption will drop even farther and 8cores could be possible.

price onto that to.ATLReppa770

Again, not necessarily. It will be cheaper to make for two reasons. First, these cores are going to be much more simpler then a a current mid-highend card. Second, due to all of AMD's GPUs using these cores, only one design needs to be made and produced. Meaning no unnecessary retooling and the huge mass production of these will drastically cut costs.

:cry: and I am still on Dx9! Well in a Recent Valve Hardware Survey 1% showed to have DX10 that took the survey! so, now why would we all rush to get Dx10.1? :O IMO it should be like DX9.0a/b/c having a whole new DX10.1 will cause chaos amongst delelopers! 

So getting a DX10 card is not realy worth it? w/ DX10.1 comming out in Q4 2008?

Then again looking at the Article,  They say that the R650 would be better than the R600, but if a "Daul Core" GPU = Mid range WELL I AM IN!!

Well from what i've seen in the past several months, Nvidia is more tech savy especially when it comes down to executeing hardware projects, And They clearly have more money in the Bank.

Hence, I dont see why Nvidia would not have an Answer to ATI's R700 line. The ones who are willing to wait for the R700, there maybe a G100 line right around the corner from that from Nvidia for you to wait for too, who knows.

Where Am I Getting:  Technology Will Always Become Obsolete and Sometimes Even At An Acclerated Rate, So Get What You Can, When You Can Get It And Enjoy It Because Whether We Like It or Not Something Bigger And Better Is Always Comming.

Why "Forget the 88...the G92... and shoot for R700" ... its inevitable change

I could easily say "If your willing to wait for R700, Go for G100" which would be right around the corner

But hey, This is just my opinion

Well from what i've seen in the past several months, Nvidia is more tech savy especially when it comes down to executeing hardware projects, And They clearly have more money in the Bank.

Hence, I dont see why Nvidia would not have an Answer to ATI's R700 line. The ones who are willing to wait for the R700, there maybe a G100 line right around the corner from that from Nvidia for you to wait for too, who knows.

Where Am I Getting:  Technology Will Always Become Obsolete and Sometimes Even At An Acclerated Rate, So Get What You Can, When You Can Get It And Enjoy It Because Whether We Like It or Not Something Bigger And Better Is Always Comming.

Why "Forget the 88...the G92... and shoot for R700" ... its inevitable change

I could easily say "If your willing to wait for R700, Go for G100" which would be right around the corner

But hey, This is just my opinion

450tantrum

Exactly. And if you will wait for G100, you might can wait for new ATi cards after R700. This is a cycle that never ends. I think that i bought my PC at the right time. I have it for 7 months now and it isnt outdated. What a luck. Most of the components gets outdated pretty fast today.  

the release time between dx10 and this new version is too small for it to be dx11 it would not be able to be made in 12 months dx10.1 however is possible.

Personaly i see a conspiricy theory coming on: microsoft is churning out new versions of Dx to get graphics card sales from manufactures that they have comission deals with so with the sale of every new dx supporting graphics card Microsoft takes a commision.

no point buying new cards anyway there probably won't be much improvement any way, possibly upgrade to a new graphics card every 2 versions of dx if they are going to release them this quickly

Is that site a thrusted site?jjj13

It's a trusted site, not a thrusted one.

So, to reiterate my question... What the hell new feature in DirectX 10.1 is going to make it so much better than DirectX 10 (or 9.0c for that matter) to justify putting up with Windows Vista?codezer0

Well it will use that tech on G80 and R600, like teselation..... I think that G80 and R600 will be compatible whit it.

and this is why the rig in my sig will be the last gaming rig, its become nonsence keeping up with itncderek

indeed thats why i never bother tryigmn i just upgarde when i need to like how im buying a amd 5200 x2 next week :D

The additions to the DX10 codepath to make it DX10.1 are very minimal. Current DX10 cards like the R600 and G80 are fully capable of running the DX10.1 codepath. Not that big of a deal really.MadExponent

Not really... DX10.1 will include tessellation which the G80 cannot do...

The additions to the DX10 codepath to make it DX10.1 are very minimal. Current DX10 cards like the R600 and G80 are fully capable of running the DX10.1 codepath. Not that big of a deal really.MadExponent

[QUOTE="MadExponent"]The additions to the DX10 codepath to make it DX10.1 are very minimal. Current DX10 cards like the R600 and G80 are fully capable of running the DX10.1 codepath. Not that big of a deal really.LordEC911

Not really... DX10.1 will include tessellation which the G80 cannot do...

I was reading about that on Rage3D a week ago.