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#1 Edited by _SKatEDiRt_ (3117 posts) -

Why is BF4 almost twice as much as other games? I think ill just wait for it to be in the bargain bin for $20 in 2 years

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#2 Posted by Legendaryscmt (12532 posts) -

And to think I spent $20 on a new copy.

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#3 Edited by JigglyWiggly_ (24605 posts) -

It actually is much worse than BF3. Don't buy it.

Map design is awful, a bunch of small tunnels.

Performance is substantially worse, I get fps drops from 140 to 60 in firefights, do you know how bad that is?

There is no noshahr canals map, the only map I liked in BF3 is not in BF4. How am I supposed to farm 2000spm?

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#4 Posted by uninspiredcup (25289 posts) -

It's EA. They see what steam does, copy paste it, provide a shitty service in comparison and bump the prices up to ridiculously laughable amounts in the hope you are somehow incredibly stupid.

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#5 Posted by RevanBITW (739 posts) -

@JigglyWiggly_ said:

It actually is much worse than BF3. Don't buy it.

Map design is awful, a bunch of small tunnels.

Performance is substantially worse, I get fps drops from 140 to 60 in firefights, do you know how bad that is?

There is no noshahr canals map, the only map I liked in BF3 is not in BF4. How am I supposed to farm 2000spm?

The maps are better imo.

Performance is just fine, it's simply a more demanding game.

The only legit complaint is how its been so unstable and that can be attributed to EA rushing it out before CoD coming out. But the game seems to run fine for the vast majority of people. And the 50$ premium thing, it's a season pass, you don't have to buy it. So no, the game isn't 110$.

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#6 Edited by JigglyWiggly_ (24605 posts) -

@RevanBITW said:

@JigglyWiggly_ said:

It actually is much worse than BF3. Don't buy it.

Map design is awful, a bunch of small tunnels.

Performance is substantially worse, I get fps drops from 140 to 60 in firefights, do you know how bad that is?

There is no noshahr canals map, the only map I liked in BF3 is not in BF4. How am I supposed to farm 2000spm?

The maps are better imo.

Performance is just fine, it's simply a more demanding game.

The only legit complaint is how its been so unstable and that can be attributed to EA rushing it out before CoD coming out. But the game seems to run fine for the vast majority of people. And the 50$ premium thing, it's a season pass, you don't have to buy it. So no, the game isn't 110$.

show me a video if this better map design.

it's just a bunch of tunnels to throw explosives in

there is a ton more blur/screen rape effects

all the pro BF3 players are calling BF4 crap as well, I didn't even look up what they thought about after I played the game for an hour until my friend linked me

also it's not more demanding, it looks exactly the same. In BF3 on noshahr canals at 1280x960 I got 200fps while recording in msi afterburner

In BF4 my fps jutters all over the place and is-unplayable-.

Top left are my fps in BF3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWGABeuUce0 (this was with 10 hrs of gameplay time b4 I was even good at fps)

Then BF4 my first game I played, I just joined on fatal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdbV5HXt-FM&hd=1&t=1m15s

look how bad those fps are, and that was with Shadowplay which doesn't even hurt my fps. Look how terrible that map design is too, literally every map is like that.

I get the exact same fps at 640x480 or 1920x1080... loel

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#7 Edited by deactivated-579f651eab962 (5404 posts) -

@JigglyWiggly_ said:

show me a video if this better map design.

it's just a bunch of tunnels to throw explosives in

there is a ton more blur/screen rape effects

all the pro BF3 players are calling BF4 crap as well, I didn't even look up what they thought about after I played the game for an hour until my friend linked me

also it's not more demanding, it looks exactly the same. In BF3 on noshahr canals at 1280x960 I got 200fps while recording in msi afterburner

In BF4 my fps jutters all over the place and is-unplayable-.

Top left are my fps in BF3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWGABeuUce0 (this was with 10 hrs of gameplay time b4 I was even good at fps)

Then BF4 my first game I played, I just joined on fatal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdbV5HXt-FM&hd=1&t=1m15s

look how bad those fps are, and that was with Shadowplay which doesn't even hurt my fps. Look how terrible that map design is too, literally every map is like that.

I get the exact same fps at 640x480 or 1920x1080... loel

How can you say it looks the same?!?

It's gorgeous!

Maybe you just can't see the difference @ 1080p. Maybe your fps jutters all over the place and is-unplayable because your CPU isn't fast enough or you have other PC problems.

I've had 0 problems until todays patch which nerfed SLI :(

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#8 Edited by Nick3306 (3376 posts) -

@JigglyWiggly_ said:

@RevanBITW said:

@JigglyWiggly_ said:

It actually is much worse than BF3. Don't buy it.

Map design is awful, a bunch of small tunnels.

Performance is substantially worse, I get fps drops from 140 to 60 in firefights, do you know how bad that is?

There is no noshahr canals map, the only map I liked in BF3 is not in BF4. How am I supposed to farm 2000spm?

The maps are better imo.

Performance is just fine, it's simply a more demanding game.

The only legit complaint is how its been so unstable and that can be attributed to EA rushing it out before CoD coming out. But the game seems to run fine for the vast majority of people. And the 50$ premium thing, it's a season pass, you don't have to buy it. So no, the game isn't 110$.

show me a video if this better map design.

it's just a bunch of tunnels to throw explosives in

there is a ton more blur/screen rape effects

all the pro BF3 players are calling BF4 crap as well, I didn't even look up what they thought about after I played the game for an hour until my friend linked me

also it's not more demanding, it looks exactly the same. In BF3 on noshahr canals at 1280x960 I got 200fps while recording in msi afterburner

In BF4 my fps jutters all over the place and is-unplayable-.

Top left are my fps in BF3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWGABeuUce0 (this was with 10 hrs of gameplay time b4 I was even good at fps)

Then BF4 my first game I played, I just joined on fatal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdbV5HXt-FM&hd=1&t=1m15s

look how bad those fps are, and that was with Shadowplay which doesn't even hurt my fps. Look how terrible that map design is too, literally every map is like that.

I get the exact same fps at 640x480 or 1920x1080... loel

BF4 maps are miles better than BF3, pretty much everyone I talk to agrees. Unfortunately everything else you said seems to be right. Performance is laughably bad and the crashes and bugs keep piling up. That being said, I still enjoy the game.

Oh and TC, its only $60, the rest is for download content.

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#9 Edited by RevanBITW (739 posts) -

@JigglyWiggly_ said:

@RevanBITW said:

@JigglyWiggly_ said:

It actually is much worse than BF3. Don't buy it.

Map design is awful, a bunch of small tunnels.

Performance is substantially worse, I get fps drops from 140 to 60 in firefights, do you know how bad that is?

There is no noshahr canals map, the only map I liked in BF3 is not in BF4. How am I supposed to farm 2000spm?

The maps are better imo.

Performance is just fine, it's simply a more demanding game.

The only legit complaint is how its been so unstable and that can be attributed to EA rushing it out before CoD coming out. But the game seems to run fine for the vast majority of people. And the 50$ premium thing, it's a season pass, you don't have to buy it. So no, the game isn't 110$.

show me a video if this better map design.

it's just a bunch of tunnels to throw explosives in

there is a ton more blur/screen rape effects

all the pro BF3 players are calling BF4 crap as well, I didn't even look up what they thought about after I played the game for an hour until my friend linked me

also it's not more demanding, it looks exactly the same. In BF3 on noshahr canals at 1280x960 I got 200fps while recording in msi afterburner

In BF4 my fps jutters all over the place and is-unplayable-.

Top left are my fps in BF3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWGABeuUce0 (this was with 10 hrs of gameplay time b4 I was even good at fps)

Then BF4 my first game I played, I just joined on fatal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdbV5HXt-FM&hd=1&t=1m15s

look how bad those fps are, and that was with Shadowplay which doesn't even hurt my fps. Look how terrible that map design is too, literally every map is like that.

I get the exact same fps at 640x480 or 1920x1080... loel

Conquest maps are all wide open except for certain particular spots.

You can turn off the blur effects dummy and they nerfed the suppression in BF4, it was way worse in BF3.

It doesn't look the same, it's clearly an improvement, you're factually wrong, sorry.

The FPS is staying way over 60 FPS the entire video either way, WTF are you whining about?

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#10 Edited by PredatorRules (11987 posts) -

@_SKatEDiRt_ said:

Why is BF4 almost twice as much as other games? I think ill just wait for it to be in the bargain bin for $20 in 2 years

In 2 years no one will play it; so basically either you get the new CoD/BF game or don't get it at all.

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#11 Edited by JigglyWiggly_ (24605 posts) -

@RevanBITW said:

@JigglyWiggly_ said:

@RevanBITW said:

@JigglyWiggly_ said:

It actually is much worse than BF3. Don't buy it.

Map design is awful, a bunch of small tunnels.

Performance is substantially worse, I get fps drops from 140 to 60 in firefights, do you know how bad that is?

There is no noshahr canals map, the only map I liked in BF3 is not in BF4. How am I supposed to farm 2000spm?

The maps are better imo.

Performance is just fine, it's simply a more demanding game.

The only legit complaint is how its been so unstable and that can be attributed to EA rushing it out before CoD coming out. But the game seems to run fine for the vast majority of people. And the 50$ premium thing, it's a season pass, you don't have to buy it. So no, the game isn't 110$.

show me a video if this better map design.

it's just a bunch of tunnels to throw explosives in

there is a ton more blur/screen rape effects

all the pro BF3 players are calling BF4 crap as well, I didn't even look up what they thought about after I played the game for an hour until my friend linked me

also it's not more demanding, it looks exactly the same. In BF3 on noshahr canals at 1280x960 I got 200fps while recording in msi afterburner

In BF4 my fps jutters all over the place and is-unplayable-.

Top left are my fps in BF3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWGABeuUce0 (this was with 10 hrs of gameplay time b4 I was even good at fps)

Then BF4 my first game I played, I just joined on fatal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdbV5HXt-FM&hd=1&t=1m15s

look how bad those fps are, and that was with Shadowplay which doesn't even hurt my fps. Look how terrible that map design is too, literally every map is like that.

I get the exact same fps at 640x480 or 1920x1080... loel

Conquest maps are all wide open except for certain particular spots.

You can turn off the blur effects dummy and they nerfed the suppression in BF4, it was way worse in BF3.

It doesn't look the same, it's clearly an improvement, you're factually wrong, sorry.

The FPS is staying way over 60 FPS the entire video either way, WTF are you whining about?

60fps? haha, who would play at 60fps?

i have a vg248qe 144hz display, having frame jutters that big is an enormous distraction

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#12 Edited by JigglyWiggly_ (24605 posts) -

@acanofcoke said:

@JigglyWiggly_ said:

show me a video if this better map design.

it's just a bunch of tunnels to throw explosives in

there is a ton more blur/screen rape effects

all the pro BF3 players are calling BF4 crap as well, I didn't even look up what they thought about after I played the game for an hour until my friend linked me

also it's not more demanding, it looks exactly the same. In BF3 on noshahr canals at 1280x960 I got 200fps while recording in msi afterburner

In BF4 my fps jutters all over the place and is-unplayable-.

Top left are my fps in BF3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWGABeuUce0 (this was with 10 hrs of gameplay time b4 I was even good at fps)

Then BF4 my first game I played, I just joined on fatal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdbV5HXt-FM&hd=1&t=1m15s

look how bad those fps are, and that was with Shadowplay which doesn't even hurt my fps. Look how terrible that map design is too, literally every map is like that.

I get the exact same fps at 640x480 or 1920x1080... loel

How can you say it looks the same?!?

It's gorgeous!

Maybe you just can't see the difference @ 1080p. Maybe your fps jutters all over the place and is-unplayable because your CPU isn't fast enough or you have other PC problems.

I've had 0 problems until todays patch which nerfed SLI :(

i have a 2600k at 4.4ghz, it's fast enough.

no other game is affected, BF3 is not affected

this a common issue with this game

here's zub running at lowest possible at a 2600k at 5.2 ghz

also it's not that pretty, it's just blurry

the fact that I get the same fps regardless of resolution means it's badly optimized, gpu usage isn't ever that high.

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#13 Edited by deactivated-579f651eab962 (5404 posts) -

@JigglyWiggly_ said:

@acanofcoke said:

@JigglyWiggly_ said:

show me a video if this better map design.

it's just a bunch of tunnels to throw explosives in

there is a ton more blur/screen rape effects

all the pro BF3 players are calling BF4 crap as well, I didn't even look up what they thought about after I played the game for an hour until my friend linked me

also it's not more demanding, it looks exactly the same. In BF3 on noshahr canals at 1280x960 I got 200fps while recording in msi afterburner

In BF4 my fps jutters all over the place and is-unplayable-.

Top left are my fps in BF3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWGABeuUce0 (this was with 10 hrs of gameplay time b4 I was even good at fps)

Then BF4 my first game I played, I just joined on fatal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdbV5HXt-FM&hd=1&t=1m15s

look how bad those fps are, and that was with Shadowplay which doesn't even hurt my fps. Look how terrible that map design is too, literally every map is like that.

I get the exact same fps at 640x480 or 1920x1080... loel

How can you say it looks the same?!?

It's gorgeous!

Maybe you just can't see the difference @ 1080p. Maybe your fps jutters all over the place and is-unplayable because your CPU isn't fast enough or you have other PC problems.

I've had 0 problems until todays patch which nerfed SLI :(

i have a 2600k at 4.4ghz, it's fast enough.

no other game is affected, BF3 is not affected

this a common issue with this game

here's zub running at lowest possible at a 2600k at 5.2 ghz

also it's not that pretty, it's just blurry

Mines not blurry.

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#14 Edited by JigglyWiggly_ (24605 posts) -

Just because you have bad eyes to not be able to tell the game is a blurry mess, doesn't mean everyone does.

Compare BF4 screenshots to Quake Live, it is indeed very blurry.

CS GO is also a blurry mess.

Click any of these

http://bf4central.com/2013/11/top-10-battlefield-4-screenshots-1/

compare that to

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46294175/dslreports/plugin-container%202013-11-27%2009-31-09-95.png

and you can't configure the game to make it not blurry

Tribes ascend by default is blurry

http://playingamer.com/files/2013/08/newtribes_gamescom_youaretherabbit.jpg

but you can open the ini and change it to your liking to a balanced one like this

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/541808684947537150/3BF8503F1D847CEEFBD1BCA4B48448458AA627B3/

You don't need to be blurry to have good graphics, Crysis 1 is an example of this. Incredibly high poly count with no blur.

Modded Crysis 1

http://gameswallpaperhd.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/crysis-warheadcrysis-1---crysis-1-hd---crysis-warhead-pc-screenshots-hcl-top-zyinbbdv.jpg

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#15 Posted by RevanBITW (739 posts) -

@JigglyWiggly_ said:

@RevanBITW said:

@JigglyWiggly_ said:

@RevanBITW said:

@JigglyWiggly_ said:

It actually is much worse than BF3. Don't buy it.

Map design is awful, a bunch of small tunnels.

Performance is substantially worse, I get fps drops from 140 to 60 in firefights, do you know how bad that is?

There is no noshahr canals map, the only map I liked in BF3 is not in BF4. How am I supposed to farm 2000spm?

The maps are better imo.

Performance is just fine, it's simply a more demanding game.

The only legit complaint is how its been so unstable and that can be attributed to EA rushing it out before CoD coming out. But the game seems to run fine for the vast majority of people. And the 50$ premium thing, it's a season pass, you don't have to buy it. So no, the game isn't 110$.

show me a video if this better map design.

it's just a bunch of tunnels to throw explosives in

there is a ton more blur/screen rape effects

all the pro BF3 players are calling BF4 crap as well, I didn't even look up what they thought about after I played the game for an hour until my friend linked me

also it's not more demanding, it looks exactly the same. In BF3 on noshahr canals at 1280x960 I got 200fps while recording in msi afterburner

In BF4 my fps jutters all over the place and is-unplayable-.

Top left are my fps in BF3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWGABeuUce0 (this was with 10 hrs of gameplay time b4 I was even good at fps)

Then BF4 my first game I played, I just joined on fatal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdbV5HXt-FM&hd=1&t=1m15s

look how bad those fps are, and that was with Shadowplay which doesn't even hurt my fps. Look how terrible that map design is too, literally every map is like that.

I get the exact same fps at 640x480 or 1920x1080... loel

Conquest maps are all wide open except for certain particular spots.

You can turn off the blur effects dummy and they nerfed the suppression in BF4, it was way worse in BF3.

It doesn't look the same, it's clearly an improvement, you're factually wrong, sorry.

The FPS is staying way over 60 FPS the entire video either way, WTF are you whining about?

60fps? haha, who would play at 60fps?

i have a vg248qe 144hz display, having frame jutters that big is an enormous distraction

You realize you're in an incredibly tiny minority who actually has a monitor that goes over 60 Hz?

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#16 Edited by JigglyWiggly_ (24605 posts) -

No, many people have 120/144hz displays now.

The vg248qe(144hz) I'm running can be had for $250.

Newegg is even selling open box ones for $223

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236313R

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#17 Edited by RevanBITW (739 posts) -

@JigglyWiggly_ said:

No, many people have 120/144hz displays now.

The vg248qe(144hz) I'm running can be had for $250.

So what? I bet most people would rather have a 1440p monitor.

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#18 Edited by JigglyWiggly_ (24605 posts) -

@RevanBITW said:

@JigglyWiggly_ said:

No, many people have 120/144hz displays now.

The vg248qe(144hz) I'm running can be had for $250.

So what? I bet most people would rather have a 1440p monitor.

Yes, and most people are terrible at fps(99.9%).

Also there are a few 1440p monitors that can be oc'd to 120hz.

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#19 Edited by RevanBITW (739 posts) -

@JigglyWiggly_ said:

@RevanBITW said:

@JigglyWiggly_ said:

No, many people have 120/144hz displays now.

The vg248qe(144hz) I'm running can be had for $250.

So what? I bet most people would rather have a 1440p monitor.

Yes, and most people are terrible at fps(99.9%).

Dat insecurity.

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#20 Edited by JigglyWiggly_ (24605 posts) -

@RevanBITW said:

@JigglyWiggly_ said:

@RevanBITW said:

@JigglyWiggly_ said:

No, many people have 120/144hz displays now.

The vg248qe(144hz) I'm running can be had for $250.

So what? I bet most people would rather have a 1440p monitor.

Yes, and most people are terrible at fps(99.9%).

Dat insecurity.

about what, the majority being right?

that's like saying people think laser mice are better, like toplel linus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoFjDZkU088&t=1m6s

when the opposite is true, especially at the time this video was made

and that lightboost is better which according to "everyone" who has tested it, it's the best thing ever

except it's actually garbage

tl;dr, test everything yourself and ignore everyone's opinion

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#21 Posted by deactivated-579f651eab962 (5404 posts) -
@JigglyWiggly_ said:

Just because you have bad eyes to not be able to tell the game is a blurry mess, doesn't mean everyone does.

Compare BF4 screenshots to Quake Live, it is indeed very blurry.

CS GO is also a blurry mess.

Click any of these

http://bf4central.com/2013/11/top-10-battlefield-4-screenshots-1/

compare that to

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46294175/dslreports/plugin-container%202013-11-27%2009-31-09-95.png

and you can't configure the game to make it not blurry

Tribes ascend by default is blurry

http://playingamer.com/files/2013/08/newtribes_gamescom_youaretherabbit.jpg

but you can open the ini and change it to your liking to a balanced one like this

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/541808684947537150/3BF8503F1D847CEEFBD1BCA4B48448458AA627B3/

You don't need to be blurry to have good graphics, Crysis 1 is an example of this. Incredibly high poly count with no blur.

Modded Crysis 1

http://gameswallpaperhd.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/crysis-warheadcrysis-1---crysis-1-hd---crysis-warhead-pc-screenshots-hcl-top-zyinbbdv.jpg

You're linking this image as an example of a non " blurry " game in a BF4 discussion?

Really?........

I know now not to take you seriously... Tata

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#22 Posted by RevanBITW (739 posts) -

@JigglyWiggly_ said:

@RevanBITW said:

@JigglyWiggly_ said:

@RevanBITW said:

@JigglyWiggly_ said:

No, many people have 120/144hz displays now.

The vg248qe(144hz) I'm running can be had for $250.

So what? I bet most people would rather have a 1440p monitor.

Yes, and most people are terrible at fps(99.9%).

Dat insecurity.

about what, the majority being right?

that's like saying people think laser mice are better, like toplel linus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoFjDZkU088&t=1m6s

when the opposite is true, especially at the time this video was made

and that lightboost is better which according to "everyone" who has tested it, it's the best thing ever

except it's actually garbage

tl;dr, test everything yourself and ignore everyone's opinion

120 Hz will make it look smoother, 1440p will make it look better. It comes down to taste and what you value more. You saying people would be dumb to choose X over Y here is stupid.

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#23 Edited by JigglyWiggly_ (24605 posts) -

@acanofcoke said:
@JigglyWiggly_ said:

Just because you have bad eyes to not be able to tell the game is a blurry mess, doesn't mean everyone does.

Compare BF4 screenshots to Quake Live, it is indeed very blurry.

CS GO is also a blurry mess.

Click any of these

http://bf4central.com/2013/11/top-10-battlefield-4-screenshots-1/

compare that to

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46294175/dslreports/plugin-container%202013-11-27%2009-31-09-95.png

and you can't configure the game to make it not blurry

Tribes ascend by default is blurry

http://playingamer.com/files/2013/08/newtribes_gamescom_youaretherabbit.jpg

but you can open the ini and change it to your liking to a balanced one like this

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/541808684947537150/3BF8503F1D847CEEFBD1BCA4B48448458AA627B3/

You don't need to be blurry to have good graphics, Crysis 1 is an example of this. Incredibly high poly count with no blur.

Modded Crysis 1

http://gameswallpaperhd.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/crysis-warheadcrysis-1---crysis-1-hd---crysis-warhead-pc-screenshots-hcl-top-zyinbbdv.jpg

You're linking this image as an example of a non " blurry " game in a BF4 discussion?

Really?........

I know now not to take you seriously... Tata

You said BF4 was not blurry.

if you read carefully, I said that was an example of a game that has no blur[at all]

the crysis 1 picture was then an example of a modern game that wasn't overdone with blur and still looks good

anyway, no serious gamer likes BF4, they all like BF3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVOWK-77spk

a random comment on that video pretty much summed it up

[quote]

jika do u think u and other good players will play bf4 ?

for me this game doesnt make sense, its like COD now...

way to easy to kill ppl. in bf3 no noob can kill a good player but in bf4 every noob will kill you with muzzlebrake and some other senseless shit.

[/quote]

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#24 Posted by nutcrackr (13029 posts) -

jiggly sure hates the blurry

enjoy your wait OP

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#25 Posted by wis3boi (32507 posts) -

came into thread expecting half assed shit slinging, not disappointed

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#26 Edited by Nick3306 (3376 posts) -

@wis3boi said:

came into thread expecting half assed shit slinging, not disappointed

Well when jiggly is involved, its almost guaranteed.

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#27 Edited by 8-Bitterness (3707 posts) -

Yo I think the game's worth the price, then again I got it all for about 70 bucks. Origin's better than Steam GG.

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#28 Posted by Geminon (1177 posts) -

@JigglyWiggly_ said:

@RevanBITW said:

@JigglyWiggly_ said:

It actually is much worse than BF3. Don't buy it.

Map design is awful, a bunch of small tunnels.

Performance is substantially worse, I get fps drops from 140 to 60 in firefights, do you know how bad that is?

There is no noshahr canals map, the only map I liked in BF3 is not in BF4. How am I supposed to farm 2000spm?

The maps are better imo.

Performance is just fine, it's simply a more demanding game.

The only legit complaint is how its been so unstable and that can be attributed to EA rushing it out before CoD coming out. But the game seems to run fine for the vast majority of people. And the 50$ premium thing, it's a season pass, you don't have to buy it. So no, the game isn't 110$.

show me a video if this better map design.

it's just a bunch of tunnels to throw explosives in

there is a ton more blur/screen rape effects

all the pro BF3 players are calling BF4 crap as well, I didn't even look up what they thought about after I played the game for an hour until my friend linked me

also it's not more demanding, it looks exactly the same. In BF3 on noshahr canals at 1280x960 I got 200fps while recording in msi afterburner

In BF4 my fps jutters all over the place and is-unplayable-.

Top left are my fps in BF3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWGABeuUce0 (this was with 10 hrs of gameplay time b4 I was even good at fps)

Then BF4 my first game I played, I just joined on fatal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdbV5HXt-FM&hd=1&t=1m15s

look how bad those fps are, and that was with Shadowplay which doesn't even hurt my fps. Look how terrible that map design is too, literally every map is like that.

I get the exact same fps at 640x480 or 1920x1080... loel

BF4 looks significantly better than BF3....

and honestly..."pro BF3 players"???? are you TRYING to sound like a tool?

i didnt realize Paracel Storm was made of corrodors... all that open space that i run around in constantly must be an illusion. same with Hannahn Resort....Zavod....well, any map other than Lockdown.

lay off the "im a wannabe pro player" jiggly.... it is SUPER old at this point.

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#29 Edited by Elann2008 (33028 posts) -

Did you only play Operation Locker? Because that's like the only map with tunnels...Sounds like you only played one map, one round, and based the game off of that one experience.

Edit: And.. I was right. You only played that one map (Operation Locker). Congrats.

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#31 Posted by _SKatEDiRt_ (3117 posts) -

@PredatorRules said:

@_SKatEDiRt_ said:

Why is BF4 almost twice as much as other games? I think ill just wait for it to be in the bargain bin for $20 in 2 years

In 2 years no one will play it; so basically either you get the new CoD/BF game or don't get it at all.

lol what do you mean no one will play it? look at all the people that still play BF3.

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#32 Edited by PernicioEnigma (5881 posts) -

I honestly don't know how any self respecting PC gamer can give their money to EA. I stay the hell away from anything with their name on it.

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#33 Edited by deactivated-579f651eab962 (5404 posts) -

@PernicioEnigma said:

I honestly don't know how any self respecting PC gamer can give their money to EA. I stay the hell away from anything with their name on it.

I see it as getting a lift with someone you hate to a job you love.

You speak to them if you have to but once you get to work you ignore them. :D

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#34 Posted by Elann2008 (33028 posts) -

@acanofcoke said:

@PernicioEnigma said:

I honestly don't know how any self respecting PC gamer can give their money to EA. I stay the hell away from anything with their name on it.

I see it as getting a lift with someone you hate to a job you love.

You speak to them if you have to but once you get to work you ignore them. :D

Lol yeah. There's a like/hate relationship with EA. At one point in time, they started off well in the late 2000's with some great games like Dead Space, Mirror's Edge, Bad Company 2, Mass Effect 1, Dragon Age Origins, then sh!t went down hill from there. For those years and games included, there's still a spark of "likeness" that I have for them. But EA in recent years has done nothing but ruin those great IPs.

I have some hope that they will return back to their roots with Dragon Age, Dead Space (4), and then we may get a break from Battlefield and have instead some Bad Company 3. Like Microsoft, I don't think EA has it in them to care about the PC community though. If they did care, we'd know.

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#35 Posted by PredatorRules (11987 posts) -

@_SKatEDiRt_ said:

@PredatorRules said:

@_SKatEDiRt_ said:

Why is BF4 almost twice as much as other games? I think ill just wait for it to be in the bargain bin for $20 in 2 years

In 2 years no one will play it; so basically either you get the new CoD/BF game or don't get it at all.

lol what do you mean no one will play it? look at all the people that still play BF3.

Yeah but how many people play BF3,2 or 1942 compared to the 4th? games that are based on multiplayer are best be played when served HOT if you know what I mean.

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#36 Edited by _SKatEDiRt_ (3117 posts) -

@PredatorRules said:

@_SKatEDiRt_ said:

@PredatorRules said:

@_SKatEDiRt_ said:

Why is BF4 almost twice as much as other games? I think ill just wait for it to be in the bargain bin for $20 in 2 years

In 2 years no one will play it; so basically either you get the new CoD/BF game or don't get it at all.

lol what do you mean no one will play it? look at all the people that still play BF3.

Yeah but how many people play BF3,2 or 1942 compared to the 4th? games that are based on multiplayer are best be played when served HOT if you know what I mean.

Yeah i know exactly what you mean but i dont really care about that. people still play then im good.. unlike quake 4 :/

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#37 Posted by robokill (1392 posts) -

it's the last battlefield game I'll ever play, and I'm telling everyone I know never buy a battlefield game. I've played every battlefield game and that's how bad bf4 is, never again. So yeah, they are special, with an R. they got too greedy and now I give them a big middle finger.

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#38 Edited by R4gn4r0k (27086 posts) -

@PredatorRules said:

@_SKatEDiRt_ said:

Why is BF4 almost twice as much as other games? I think ill just wait for it to be in the bargain bin for $20 in 2 years

In 2 years no one will play it; so basically either you get the new CoD/BF game or don't get it at all.

Not sure if there will be a new BF in two years time.

Because we know DICE is making Mirror's Edge & Star Wars

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#39 Edited by Elann2008 (33028 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:

@PredatorRules said:

@_SKatEDiRt_ said:

Why is BF4 almost twice as much as other games? I think ill just wait for it to be in the bargain bin for $20 in 2 years

In 2 years no one will play it; so basically either you get the new CoD/BF game or don't get it at all.

Not sure if there will be a new BF in two years time.

Because we know DICE is making Mirror's Edge & Star Wars

Sweet music to my ears. I'm enjoying BF4 despite the error/crashing issues, but it's not downright horrid in terms of bugs. You can get in some sessions. As far as the gameplay goes, I like the maps a lot except for Dawnbreaker and Shanghai. The maps with the skyscrappers piss me off because it just becomes a rooftop-affair. You spawn and die to sniping or get tank raped half the time despite your efforts. China Rising's maps are more interesting to play with some of that Bad Company 2 flavor. It's really best played with a group of friends. In BF3, I spent most of my time lone-wolfing it and I still had fun. But in BF4, I feel like I gotta play it with friends 90% of the time; maybe that's just me.

I'm looking forward to Star Wars Battlefront. We. Will. See. Hopefully the strong gunplay carries over, but it doesn't turn it into Star Battlefield. That seems to be the lingering concerns people have, but not a big issue to be discussed right now.

Mirror's Edge 1 was a good game. My expectations for ME2 are low even though I'm quietly rooting for it.

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#40 Posted by yngsten (453 posts) -

The China Rising maps are good ol' BF, but what they did with that expansion should be illegal. Me and some friends pre-ordered in order to get CR for free, which we all know is cutting out a peace of the game and giving it in a pre-order, bad enough in it's own, As if that wasn't enough they kept us who pre-ordered out in the cold for two damn weeks hoping we would crack and pay for the Premium to get to play our pre-order bonus. EA have no bounds, at least it works now, so friends can join a server without too much hassle.

GOD DAMN EA F***** GAMES

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#41 Edited by Elann2008 (33028 posts) -

I'm starting to sing a different tune... While it is very fun gaming with friends... in a somewhat organized fashion.. it is a pain in the ass to lone-wolf it.. which we should be able to do. But the main fvkin problem cause 99 problems it is one... the fvkin snipers in this game is x100 worse than BF3's. Everyone all of a sudden wants to play recon.. there's a lack of support class in general.. and Assault do not want to rez. Engineers hardly ever coordinate stinger/javelin shots together. It's awful in that sense and it can be a headache-inducing affair.

Recon are a ton more accurate... most of them that do kill people are not even in prone.. and killcam proves this numerous times I can't count any more. They need a nerf.

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#42 Posted by wis3boi (32507 posts) -

@Elann2008 said:

I'm starting to sing a different tune... While it is very fun gaming with friends... in a somewhat organized fashion.. it is a pain in the ass to lone-wolf it.. which we should be able to do. But the main fvkin problem cause 99 problems it is one... the fvkin snipers in this game is x100 worse than BF3's. Everyone all of a sudden wants to play recon.. there's a lack of support class in general.. and Assault do not want to rez. Engineers hardly ever coordinate stinger/javelin shots together. It's awful in that sense and it can be a headache-inducing affair.

Recon are a ton more accurate... most of them that do kill people are not even in prone.. and killcam proves this numerous times I can't count any more. They need a nerf.

I barely see any recon using snipers, just a few per team these days. I find sniping very useless compared to a recon build using a carbine and c4 with other gadgets. A sniper usually takes 2 shots to kill someone, and in slow fashion...a waste when you can mow down crowds with other weapon types.

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#43 Edited by RevanBITW (739 posts) -

@yngsten said:

The China Rising maps are good ol' BF, but what they did with that expansion should be illegal. Me and some friends pre-ordered in order to get CR for free, which we all know is cutting out a peace of the game and giving it in a pre-order, bad enough in it's own, As if that wasn't enough they kept us who pre-ordered out in the cold for two damn weeks hoping we would crack and pay for the Premium to get to play our pre-order bonus. EA have no bounds, at least it works now, so friends can join a server without too much hassle.

GOD DAMN EA F***** GAMES

China Rising is DLC, they didn't cut it out of the game. You people are so desperate to feed your retarded narrative that EA is the worst company in the world. The real problem is that it came out unfinished.

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#44 Edited by Elann2008 (33028 posts) -

@wis3boi said:

@Elann2008 said:

I'm starting to sing a different tune... While it is very fun gaming with friends... in a somewhat organized fashion.. it is a pain in the ass to lone-wolf it.. which we should be able to do. But the main fvkin problem cause 99 problems it is one... the fvkin snipers in this game is x100 worse than BF3's. Everyone all of a sudden wants to play recon.. there's a lack of support class in general.. and Assault do not want to rez. Engineers hardly ever coordinate stinger/javelin shots together. It's awful in that sense and it can be a headache-inducing affair.

Recon are a ton more accurate... most of them that do kill people are not even in prone.. and killcam proves this numerous times I can't count any more. They need a nerf.

I barely see any recon using snipers, just a few per team these days. I find sniping very useless compared to a recon build using a carbine and c4 with other gadgets. A sniper usually takes 2 shots to kill someone, and in slow fashion...a waste when you can mow down crowds with other weapon types.

Eh different servers, different scenarios, different game modes. I see them all the time, and too often. And this was just moments ago on China Rising, ON NEW MAPS and snipers are out there, in droves. I can't take your word for it...because my experience is not yours, vice versa. But every time I play with friends, we always get a ton of snipers on conquest, obliteration, etc.

It's actually easier to kill with Recon now. Hell, I am bad at recon and I can promise you I would be great at it.

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#45 Posted by harry_james_pot (11399 posts) -

What are you talking about? The game is only $60. The rest is for the dlcs, which all games these days have, not just BF4...

@wis3boi said:

@Elann2008 said:

I'm starting to sing a different tune... While it is very fun gaming with friends... in a somewhat organized fashion.. it is a pain in the ass to lone-wolf it.. which we should be able to do. But the main fvkin problem cause 99 problems it is one... the fvkin snipers in this game is x100 worse than BF3's. Everyone all of a sudden wants to play recon.. there's a lack of support class in general.. and Assault do not want to rez. Engineers hardly ever coordinate stinger/javelin shots together. It's awful in that sense and it can be a headache-inducing affair.

Recon are a ton more accurate... most of them that do kill people are not even in prone.. and killcam proves this numerous times I can't count any more. They need a nerf.

I barely see any recon using snipers, just a few per team these days. I find sniping very useless compared to a recon build using a carbine and c4 with other gadgets. A sniper usually takes 2 shots to kill someone, and in slow fashion...a waste when you can mow down crowds with other weapon types.

I find sniping really fun. And it only takes you 2 shots if you're not good at it. :P

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#46 Edited by Elann2008 (33028 posts) -

@harry_james_pot said:

What are you talking about? The game is only $60. The rest is for the dlcs, which all games these days have, not just BF4...

@wis3boi said:

@Elann2008 said:

I'm starting to sing a different tune... While it is very fun gaming with friends... in a somewhat organized fashion.. it is a pain in the ass to lone-wolf it.. which we should be able to do. But the main fvkin problem cause 99 problems it is one... the fvkin snipers in this game is x100 worse than BF3's. Everyone all of a sudden wants to play recon.. there's a lack of support class in general.. and Assault do not want to rez. Engineers hardly ever coordinate stinger/javelin shots together. It's awful in that sense and it can be a headache-inducing affair.

Recon are a ton more accurate... most of them that do kill people are not even in prone.. and killcam proves this numerous times I can't count any more. They need a nerf.

I barely see any recon using snipers, just a few per team these days. I find sniping very useless compared to a recon build using a carbine and c4 with other gadgets. A sniper usually takes 2 shots to kill someone, and in slow fashion...a waste when you can mow down crowds with other weapon types.

I find sniping really fun. And it only takes you 2 shots if you're not good at it. :P

That's the thing it's too easy. Everywhere you look, just a bunch of snipers standing and shooting freely, 1-2 shot kills. No effort. Snipers should at least have to crouch, prone to get off an accurate steady shot. I'm not asking for an military-simulation game but damn lol. :D

Can't beat em, join em I guess lol.

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#47 Posted by harry_james_pot (11399 posts) -

@Elann2008 said:

@harry_james_pot said:

What are you talking about? The game is only $60. The rest is for the dlcs, which all games these days have, not just BF4...

@wis3boi said:

@Elann2008 said:

I'm starting to sing a different tune... While it is very fun gaming with friends... in a somewhat organized fashion.. it is a pain in the ass to lone-wolf it.. which we should be able to do. But the main fvkin problem cause 99 problems it is one... the fvkin snipers in this game is x100 worse than BF3's. Everyone all of a sudden wants to play recon.. there's a lack of support class in general.. and Assault do not want to rez. Engineers hardly ever coordinate stinger/javelin shots together. It's awful in that sense and it can be a headache-inducing affair.

Recon are a ton more accurate... most of them that do kill people are not even in prone.. and killcam proves this numerous times I can't count any more. They need a nerf.

I barely see any recon using snipers, just a few per team these days. I find sniping very useless compared to a recon build using a carbine and c4 with other gadgets. A sniper usually takes 2 shots to kill someone, and in slow fashion...a waste when you can mow down crowds with other weapon types.

I find sniping really fun. And it only takes you 2 shots if you're not good at it. :P

That's the thing it's too easy. Everywhere you look, just a bunch of snipers standing and shooting freely, 1-2 shot kills. No effort. Snipers should at least have to crouch, prone to get off an accurate steady shot. I'm not asking for an military-simulation game but damn lol. :D

Can't beat em, join em I guess lol.

Well at least it takes more effort than sniping in COD. :D

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#48 Posted by KHAndAnime (17565 posts) -

Because people will pay that price. $110 is the sweet spot, they figure. Maybe CoD will 1-up them and bring it to $200, to make up for the shrinking fan base.

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#49 Edited by deactivated-579f651eab962 (5404 posts) -

@JigglyWiggly_Watch this little vid of mine at 1080 and tell me it looks blurry

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#50 Edited by JigglyWiggly_ (24605 posts) -

@acanofcoke said:

@JigglyWiggly_ Watch this little vid of mine at 1080 and tell me it looks blurry

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->posts 18 second video that's extremely blurry

gj

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w--U0gINIDc&t=1m20s this looks okay though

suddenly the game looks way uglier because you can actually see it

game is full of stupid screen shaking effects

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo5XhB-Uuew&t=7s