Does Shadowplay make fraps moot?

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#1  Edited By uninspiredcup
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If you are on an nvidia card (it works on mine), is there any reason for using fraps to records games instead of shadowplay?

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#2 lawlessx
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doesn't work on every nvidia card....

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#3  Edited By JigglyWiggly_
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Shadowplay is a lot buggier. Fraps works with windowed apps and take screenshots, shadowplay can't. Leaving shadowplay in desktop mode all the time can cause some games to do weird things. In quake live I noticed I was getting a lot of input but I didn't know it where it was from. Then I found out it was shadowplay, but most games are not affected negatively. It's probably because it's opengl.

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#4 uninspiredcup
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@JigglyWiggly_ said:

Shadowplay is a lot buggier. Fraps works with windowed apps and take screenshots, shadowplay can't. Leaving shadowplay in desktop mode all the time can cause some games to do weird things. In quake live I noticed I was getting a lot of input but I didn't know it where it was from. Then I found out it was shadowplay, but most games are not affected negatively. It's probably because it's opengl.

I see. Thank you for the help. It seems to be working fine at the moment without the loss of performance, which fraps in comparison utterly kils.

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doesn't work on every nvidia card....

This post was pretty useless.

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I would like to try it out but sadly I'm stuck on the 570 currently.

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#6 pelvist
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I have never enabled or used Shadowplay and im not really sure how it works. Out of curiosity I had a fiddle around with the settings just now, does it use video memory to store what you just did or what?

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#7 Old_Gooseberry
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I've never used shadowplay, no clue how it works.

I use fraps, its simple and works and never screws up games... the only time I have to disable fraps is occasionally if i'm using a graphics injector like Sweetfx, i have to disable it or the game will either crash or just not load the injector properly.

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#8 uninspiredcup
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@pelvist said:

I have never enabled or used Shadowplay and im not really sure how it works. Out of curiosity I had a fiddle around with the settings just now, does it use video memory to store what you just did or what?

It seems to work awsome. Fraps cuts my framerate in half. When I turn this thing on, I notice practically no framerate diffrence. It's recording at 1080p and 60fps. Aside from being able to manually turn it on and off, it can automatically records the last 20 minutes.

Honestly, if this was third party software, they would probably be charging $30-$50. The fact it's completely free makes me love nvidia that little bit more.

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#9  Edited By Endgame_basic
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I use Shadowplay every day and I've never had an issue in any game. It essentially has no impact on framerate whatsoever. It's near perfect

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#10 Nick3306
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@uninspiredcup said:

@lawlessx said:

doesn't work on every nvidia card....

This post was pretty useless.

That post was not useless at all, in fact, it's the main reason that shadowplay does not make fraps moot.

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#11 uninspiredcup
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@Endgame_basic said:

I use Shadowplay every day and I've never had an issue in any game. It essentially has no impact on framerate whatsoever. It's near perfect

Yes another reason to stick with nvidia.

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#12 jkarrde
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I made a video comparing FRAPS and Shadowplay with a GTX 770 card. Shadowplay is part of the reason I decided to upgrade from my SLI 560Ti cards, and it was well worth it.

http://youtu.be/wbxoD9RCk14

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@uninspiredcup said:

If you are on an nvidia card (it works on mine), is there any reason for using fraps to records games instead of shadowplay?

Shadowplay is awesome, literally awesome. Works great, no real performance to framerate, and gives you the option of Shadow Record.

BUT.... I still wonder why they haven't included a screenshot function in it, hence why I still need to have Fraps installed. Once Shadowplay introduces screenshot ability, goodbye fraps.

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The only problem i'v had so far is that shitty windows movie maker doesn't accept mp4.

Aside from that, it shits all over fraps. Makes it and other programs totally obsolete.

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@uninspiredcup said:

The only problem i'v had so far is that shitty windows movie maker doesn't accept mp4.

Aside from that, it shits all over fraps. Makes it and other programs totally obsolete.

???

I record Battlefield 4 moments and then import those videos straight into Movie Maker.

Have you got the latest version?

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#16 PfizersaurusRex
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@FelipeInside: Why not make screenshots from video frames? At max quality Shadowplay videos look perfect as far as I can tell.

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If Shadowplay actually worked as well as Fraps, maybe. Until then I still much prefer Fraps.

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#18  Edited By harry_james_pot  Moderator
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@FelipeInside said:

@uninspiredcup said:

If you are on an nvidia card (it works on mine), is there any reason for using fraps to records games instead of shadowplay?

Shadowplay is awesome, literally awesome. Works great, no real performance to framerate, and gives you the option of Shadow Record.

BUT.... I still wonder why they haven't included a screenshot function in it, hence why I still need to have Fraps installed. Once Shadowplay introduces screenshot ability, goodbye fraps.

Yeah exactly. It's awesome, but in order for Fraps to go they need a screenshot function.

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If Shadowplay actually worked as well as Fraps, maybe. Until then I still much prefer Fraps.

What do you mean?

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#19  Edited By FelipeInside
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@PfizersaurusRex said:

@FelipeInside: Why not make screenshots from video frames? At max quality Shadowplay videos look perfect as far as I can tell.

I guess I could, but I have Fraps with a hotkey just saving the screenshot in a specific folder, and I can take as many as I want. With the recording, it would be an extra few layers of work.

@airshocker said:

If Shadowplay actually worked as well as Fraps, maybe. Until then I still much prefer Fraps.

??? It works better than Fraps.

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@FelipeInside said:

??? It works better than Fraps.

Not for me it doesn't. Videos I record come out corrupted. It generates weird performance issues on my machine. Fraps doesn't do any of that.

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#21 uninspiredcup
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@airshocker said:

@FelipeInside said:

??? It works better than Fraps.

Not for me it doesn't. Videos I record come out corrupted. It generates weird performance issues on my machine. Fraps doesn't do any of that.

It barely removes even about 2fps on my comp and works perfectly. By comparison, fraps pretty much chops my framerate in half. Very strange.

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#22 FelipeInside
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@airshocker said:

@FelipeInside said:

??? It works better than Fraps.

Not for me it doesn't. Videos I record come out corrupted. It generates weird performance issues on my machine. Fraps doesn't do any of that.

That's a shame, hopefully you can figure out why it's doing it on your PC. Have u tried obvious things like recording to another HDD etc?

To be honest, I was never into the whole 'recording gameplay' thing cause of the performance hit that recording programs did to the game, but with Shadowplay it's like there isn't anything there.

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#23 jun_aka_pekto
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Recording gameplay videos is one function where my FX-8350 shines. So, I don't mind the classic way of recording PC videos and capturing screenshots.

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#24  Edited By WildKarrde
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I made a video comparing FRAPS to Shadowplay, and they both have strong points over the other, but I far prefer Shadowplay, if for no other reason much better FPS and much smaller file size.

http://youtu.be/wbxoD9RCk14

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#25 EducatingU_PCMR
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It's 2014, who on their right mind is still using FRAPS?

Seriously, someone explain me why? With so much better alternatives available, both free and paid, fraps lacks a shit ton of features, and yet I see a lot of peeps still use it.

MSI AB is free and does lossless recording as well, tons of codecs available.

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#26 humanistpotato
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would like to try it sadly i have an 560ti and overclocking doesnt help with software issues

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#27 James_Mason
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Yes it does... When I try Fraps on my ultra settings Dying Light, I drop from 60 fps average to 30 fps and produce crappy quality videos.

When I run Shadow Play on Dying Light, I do not notice any difference and performance, and I produce 60 FPS full resolution videos... And with a couple of tweaks, I can stream that stuff directly to twitch.

Honestly, Shadow Play seems to work even better than the PS4's share play stuff...

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