** Dell XPS 710 OR Alienware Area51 7500 **

Yeah but if you had to choose? which onejjarvis321

[QUOTE="jjarvis321"]Yeah but if you had to choose? which oneLouieV13

Maybe he doesn't have the time to build one? Maybe he wants full warranty? Maybe he wants customer service instead of posting here if his PC shuts down on him?

I would go with the Dell XPS if I had a choice.

Thank you :) You just listed all the reasons why i DONT want to build one.jjarvis321

No problems.

Hell even now, I may have to go prebuild for my next rig. :( I have to study hard for uni, spend more time with gf and then I have to get a job... There's hardly any time for hobbies anymore.

Yeah i heard you cant add parts to the lower end dell systems? as they have integrated graphic cards and sound cards etc. But im sure with the high end DELL XPS you can customise in the future? Anyone know?jjarvis321

Yes, with the XPS you can upgrade stuff in the future (either by yourself or call Dell).

It's the Dimension mainstream line that can't be upgraded.

Yeah i know what you mean. But do you know by any chance if the dell xps can be customised in the future if i were to upgrade a certain component inside it? like the graphic or sound card?jjarvis321

LOL I just answered that.

Yes, the graphics card/sound card can be upgraded in a Dell XPS because they actually use decent PSUs.

Yeah but if you had to choose? which onejjarvis321

Yeah i heard you cant add parts to the lower end dell systems? as they have integrated graphic cards and sound cards etc. But im sure with the high end DELL XPS you can customise in the future? Anyone know?jjarvis321

[QUOTE="jjarvis321"]Yeah i heard you cant add parts to the lower end dell systems? as they have integrated graphic cards and sound cards etc. But im sure with the high end DELL XPS you can customise in the future? Anyone know?Wesker776

Yes, with the XPS you can upgrade stuff in the future (either by yourself or call Dell).

It's the Dimension mainstream line that can't be upgraded.

of course a Dimension can be upgraded, you can upgrade the graphics card(PCI-E x16 slot), sound card(PCI slot), add in 2 more hard drives, upgrade RAM(upto 4gb) , and upgrade the CPU if you really want to as well.

Well the slim C series Dimension are harder to upgrade I admit, they can only use low profile graphics cards.

[QUOTE="jjarvis321"]Yeah i know what you mean. But do you know by any chance if the dell xps can be customised in the future if i were to upgrade a certain component inside it? like the graphic or sound card?Wesker776

LOL I just answered that.

Yes, the graphics card/sound card can be upgraded in a Dell XPS because they actually use decent PSUs.

Dell Dimensions uses pretty high quality PSU, and they can be upgraded(standard) if you really want to.

the stock Dimension PSU can power upto a 8600gt, 8600gts, 7900gs, and probably a x1950gt on a computer with multiple hard drives, and pci sound card

and dont says its too hard I just built mine and im 15 your probly older its not that hardLouieV13

lol... same.

[QUOTE="LouieV13"]and dont says its too hard I just built mine and im 15 your probly older its not that hardbrainiac24

lol... same.

He's asking which one he would be better off with. NOT whether he should get one of them or build his own. Why can't people read topics?

I'd get the XPS.

[QUOTE="jjarvis321"]Thank you :) You just listed all the reasons why i DONT want to build one.Wesker776

No problems.

Hell even now, I may have to go prebuild for my next rig. :( I have to study hard for uni, spend more time with gf and then I have to get a job... There's hardly any time for hobbies anymore.

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[QUOTE="LouieV13"]and dont says its too hard I just built mine and im 15 your probly older its not that hardmulac2910

lol... same.

He's asking which one he would be better off with. NOT whether he should get one of them or build his own. Why can't people read topics?

I'd get the XPS.

Because researching, ordering your parts and putting them together takes a lot more time right? You're going to have to do the exact same-thing with the Dell minus building it yourself... I have a very high end PC and it took me 1 h and 25 minutes with custom modifications to build it, one week of research and no-time at all for ordering it.K_r_a_u_s_e_r

And if just one of those parts had been DOA, your build time would have been bumped up to a week or more...

I would go with the DELL XPS, even though DELL owns Alienware now the 2 companies are seperate and quite honestly DELL has better customer serice.

In my opinion you will save money over the long run if you buy a complete or semi-complete system from a company that offers a warranty and has in the past at least made good on that warranty to other customers. Sure, you can buy the parts and save maybe 20% but componanet warranties ar eonly for 2 or 3 months, at most maybe a year and they are very limited. In addition if you have a power supply failure it could damage other parts.

Compared to many of you I am an old man, I'm 36 and currently work as an IT Manager, as a hobby I used to build high end systems for gamers and for myself. Most of my customers were friends, I refused to grow my 0 profit hobby into a business since I could not afford a warranty program and didn't want the hassle. The fact is that up to 6% of all parts fail within 90 days, that is the nature of eletronics.

Recently my primary system for gaming died, the power supply died and managed to kill the system board and the AMD4000 Duel Coreseries processor. The system was under a year old. While I have little issue buying the new parts if I had bought the system from DELL it would simply be an RMA drop ship and within a month or so a new or fixed PC would be sent back.

Dell, Alienware, Falcon Northwestare tier 1 companies, expect few issues and also expect to pay more then other companies that have less defined quality control.

Good luck!

I would go with the Dell 710. Actually, the 720 if you can spring it. But don't pay too much attention to me. I am biased. :roll:

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