couple of things i didnt like/understand in GW2 betas

I'm a fan of GW and i got all the expansions, i played it for about 2 years untill it became boring for me.

I'really looking forward to this since i think Blizz killed WoW after Wotlk.

I Played GW2 in both the past betas and i had fun, but couple of things didnt add up for me.

1. lack of healing class can be hard for melee classes. what I found out that if there is an event where players have to down a boss, melee players keep on dieng and their healing wasnt enough for taking the dmg. it was much safer for casters and rangers. unless to stand at the back it is nearly impossible to not get "DOWNED" at the tutorial boss.

2. the health for all classes seems to be the same. I dont know why is this a good thing. the balance of the traditional rpgs where warriors have more health always seems fair and to work.

3. the game needs more optimising, i think others have said this too. the game is beautiful but most systems apparentlycant get 60 frames on HIGH settings.

4. What are the benefits of having a party? I know many like it that you can help others disregarding being in party with them or not, and get xp and loot for the kills. but i want to know if being in a party has any benefits?

I like this game and hope to see more refinement to the combat. if im wrong on anything please let me know.

overall im looking forward to this game :)

I'm a fan of GW and i got all the expansions, i played it for about 2 years untill it became boring for me.

I'really looking forward to this since i think Blizz killed WoW after Wotlk.

I Played GW2 in both the past betas and i had fun, but couple of things didnt add up for me.

1. lack of healing class can be hard for melee classes. what I found out that if there is an event where players have to down a boss, melee players keep on dieng and their healing wasnt enough for taking the dmg. it was much safer for casters and rangers. unless to stand at the back it is nearly impossible to not get "DOWNED" at the tutorial boss.

2. the health for all classes seems to be the same. I dont know why is this a good thing. the balance of the traditional rpgs where warriors have more health always seems fair and to work.

3. the game needs more optimising, i think others have said this too. the game is beautiful but most systems apparentlycant get 60 frames on HIGH settings.

4. What are the benefits of having a party? I know many like it that you can help others disregarding being in party with them or not, and get xp and loot for the kills. but i want to know if being in a party has any benefits?

I like this game and hope to see more refinement to the combat. if im wrong on anything please let me know.

overall im looking forward to this game :)

mf1986

1. Everyone gets downed by the tutorial boss...it's automatic. They do it to introduce you to the idea of the downed stat. There's no avoiding it. Also, all "melee" classes have ranged options with the proper weapons.

2. The health may be the same, but different classes are allowed to wear different armor (light, medium, heavy). In practice, this basically gives more HP (more hits to die).

3. Optimization is ongoing and they aren't done yet (and it will most likely continue after release).

4. I think the only benefit is that you can see everyone's health bars at a convenient glance. Also, group chat for better instruction.

hmm....

I hope the support from other classes work well, since the melee was painful at the beta

2. the health for all classes seems to be the same. I dont know why is this a good thing. the balance of the traditional rpgs where warriors have more health always seems fair and to work.mf1986

1. This was the result of poor event scaling. Which is inevitable due to hte large concentration of players in the event, expect this to happen a lot early on. I had no issues soloing as a melee. There are no dedicated healers but there are support characters which can prevent that damage from being taken in the first place.

2. Not really, my warrior had like 10k more hp than my friends thief in WvW

3. Optimizations is this game's biggest concern

4. Party is mostly just a way to get more organized

I personally don't hate the trinity system but then again I haven't played many mmos. the downed state is an interesting one because i don't find it fun at all and I do think that caster / ranged classes have huge advantages. I was playing warrior and having a tough time in the first beta weekend, switched to bow and things went easier. It's hard to talk about balance in such an early stage, obviously that is one thing they are going to be changing but the balance in the end game is really the most important. nutcrackr

Ranged and casters dont have that advantage anymore, especially in PvP.

[QUOTE="nutcrackr"]I personally don't hate the trinity system but then again I haven't played many mmos. the downed state is an interesting one because i don't find it fun at all and I do think that caster / ranged classes have huge advantages. I was playing warrior and having a tough time in the first beta weekend, switched to bow and things went easier. It's hard to talk about balance in such an early stage, obviously that is one thing they are going to be changing but the balance in the end game is really the most important. Maroxad

Ranged and casters dont have that advantage anymore, especially in PvP.

How so?

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

[QUOTE="nutcrackr"]I personally don't hate the trinity system but then again I haven't played many mmos. the downed state is an interesting one because i don't find it fun at all and I do think that caster / ranged classes have huge advantages. I was playing warrior and having a tough time in the first beta weekend, switched to bow and things went easier. It's hard to talk about balance in such an early stage, obviously that is one thing they are going to be changing but the balance in the end game is really the most important. mf1986

Ranged and casters dont have that advantage anymore, especially in PvP.

How so?

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

[QUOTE="nutcrackr"]I personally don't hate the trinity system but then again I haven't played many mmos. the downed state is an interesting one because i don't find it fun at all and I do think that caster / ranged classes have huge advantages. I was playing warrior and having a tough time in the first beta weekend, switched to bow and things went easier. It's hard to talk about balance in such an early stage, obviously that is one thing they are going to be changing but the balance in the end game is really the most important. mf1986

Ranged and casters dont have that advantage anymore, especially in PvP.

How so?

I dont know what they did, but Melees in PvP went from being gimped to OP, I think their damage was increased and changes were made to make them harder to kite.

People whined a lot about Warriors and thieves, especially warriors using the Greatsword and axe.

As for PvE, I had no issues as my melee in the first BWE and it got even easier on the second. I never PvEd in the third so...

About the optimization; I'm fairly certain they said that the beta doesn't use much of your gpu and runs mostly on the cpu, or something like that. So that may be the reason.