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#1 DShockFury
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Does anybody know of any cheap, reliable, good quality Gaming PC's. I've been looking at some Vibox's but don't if to go for it or not and if so, which one to get? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.

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If you post some type of budget the peeps on here are really good at helping create one. Building yourself is the way to go to get the best bang for your buck.

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@Arthas045 said:

If you post some type of budget the peeps on here are really good at helping create one. Building yourself is the way to go to get the best bang for your buck.

I agree ^

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@Arthas045: Thanks! Thinking maybe about budget of 500 but might be too ambitious.

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@dshockfury said:

@Arthas045: Thanks! Thinking maybe about budget of 500 but might be too ambitious.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3pCa5 enjoy =)

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@PredatorRules said:

@dshockfury said:

@Arthas045: Thanks! Thinking maybe about budget of 500 but might be too ambitious.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3pCa5 enjoy =)

There you go, and the put together is very simple.

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@Arthas045 said:
@PredatorRules said:

@dshockfury said:

@Arthas045: Thanks! Thinking maybe about budget of 500 but might be too ambitious.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3pCa5 enjoy =)

There you go, and the put together is very simple.

Always forgetting dvd drive and possibly needing a copy of windows and drop the hyper 212 for that cpu there's no need.

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#8  Edited By GeryGo  Moderator
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@04dcarraher said:

@Arthas045 said:
@PredatorRules said:

@dshockfury said:

@Arthas045: Thanks! Thinking maybe about budget of 500 but might be too ambitious.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3pCa5 enjoy =)

There you go, and the put together is very simple.

Always forgetting dvd drive and possibly needing a copy of windows and drop the hyper 212 for that cpu there's no need.

No, I never forget something that is not used.

About the CPU cooler, it really depends if you wish to OC it or not, I live in a hot country and it is essential to use a proper cooling.

To add a copy of OS will destroy this perfect IMO build, it's impossible to go with modern gaming with lower than 500$ for a complete build, you can pick up Xbox One for 500$ or PS4 for 400$ if that's your budget limit.

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@PredatorRules said:

@04dcarraher said:

@Arthas045 said:
@PredatorRules said:

@dshockfury said:

@Arthas045: Thanks! Thinking maybe about budget of 500 but might be too ambitious.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3pCa5 enjoy =)

There you go, and the put together is very simple.

Always forgetting dvd drive and possibly needing a copy of windows and drop the hyper 212 for that cpu there's no need.

No, I never forget something that is not used.

About the CPU cooler, it really depends if you wish to OC it or not, I live in a hot country and it is essential to use a proper cooling.

To add a copy of OS will destroy this perfect IMO build, it's impossible to go with modern gaming with lower than 500$ for a complete build, you can pick up Xbox One for 500$ or PS4 for 400$ if that's your budget limit.

You dont assume anything based on what *you* dont use while others most likely will use it. DVD drive is so much less of a hassle to install windows and or games you have on disc then having to fiddle around with iso's and usb drives.

If the TC does not have A copy of windows you have to include it into the price or its not a valid option.

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@geniobastardo said:

@PredatorRules said:

@dshockfury said:

@Arthas045: Thanks! Thinking maybe about budget of 500 but might be too ambitious.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3pCa5 enjoy =)

wouldn't a 750Ti better than R7 265??? it's cheap and performance is equivalent to the R7. Just a thought.

GTX 750ti tends to be slower then the 265 especially at 1080. Now Nvidia's 337 drivers may rectify the difference.

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@geniobastardo said:

@04dcarraher said:
@geniobastardo said:

@PredatorRules said:

@dshockfury said:

@Arthas045: Thanks! Thinking maybe about budget of 500 but might be too ambitious.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3pCa5 enjoy =)

wouldn't a 750Ti better than R7 265??? it's cheap and performance is equivalent to the R7. Just a thought.

GTX 750ti tends to be slower then the 265 especially at 1080. Now Nvidia's 337 drivers may rectify the difference.

I think we should ask the TC about his resolution. If it's lower then 1080p then obviously 750 Ti is better for him.

Difference in price is about 15$, the boost is worth it.

It's like comparing 780 and 780ti only with much lower cost XD

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@04dcarraher said:

@PredatorRules said:

@04dcarraher said:

@Arthas045 said:
@PredatorRules said:

@dshockfury said:

@Arthas045: Thanks! Thinking maybe about budget of 500 but might be too ambitious.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3pCa5 enjoy =)

There you go, and the put together is very simple.

Always forgetting dvd drive and possibly needing a copy of windows and drop the hyper 212 for that cpu there's no need.

No, I never forget something that is not used.

About the CPU cooler, it really depends if you wish to OC it or not, I live in a hot country and it is essential to use a proper cooling.

To add a copy of OS will destroy this perfect IMO build, it's impossible to go with modern gaming with lower than 500$ for a complete build, you can pick up Xbox One for 500$ or PS4 for 400$ if that's your budget limit.

You dont assume anything based on what *you* dont use while others most likely will use it. DVD drive is so much less of a hassle to install windows and or games you have on disc then having to fiddle around with iso's and usb drives.

If the TC does not have A copy of windows you have to include it into the price or its not a valid option.

If you're an old school who like to install drivers with CDs which probably would update anyway via the internet.

About installing OS on USB flash drive it's easy as hell, it takes about 5 min with Microsoft actual program to do so.

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#16  Edited By 04dcarraher
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@PredatorRules said:

@04dcarraher said:

@PredatorRules said:

@04dcarraher said:

@Arthas045 said:
@PredatorRules said:

@dshockfury said:

@Arthas045: Thanks! Thinking maybe about budget of 500 but might be too ambitious.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3pCa5 enjoy =)

There you go, and the put together is very simple.

Always forgetting dvd drive and possibly needing a copy of windows and drop the hyper 212 for that cpu there's no need.

No, I never forget something that is not used.

About the CPU cooler, it really depends if you wish to OC it or not, I live in a hot country and it is essential to use a proper cooling.

To add a copy of OS will destroy this perfect IMO build, it's impossible to go with modern gaming with lower than 500$ for a complete build, you can pick up Xbox One for 500$ or PS4 for 400$ if that's your budget limit.

You dont assume anything based on what *you* dont use while others most likely will use it. DVD drive is so much less of a hassle to install windows and or games you have on disc then having to fiddle around with iso's and usb drives.

If the TC does not have A copy of windows you have to include it into the price or its not a valid option.

If you're an old school who like to install drivers with CDs which probably would update anyway via the internet.

About installing OS on USB flash drive it's easy as hell, it takes about 5 min with Microsoft actual program to do so.

its as easy to install windows from a usb nor takes less time.... when you have to ether download an iso or still have to use a dvd drive from another source to grab the OS data then format the usb with the tool and then you can install.... or you can just grab the disc pop in in and your done noting having to fool around with the other crap.

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#17  Edited By GeryGo  Moderator
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@04dcarraher said:

@PredatorRules said:

@04dcarraher said:

@PredatorRules said:

@04dcarraher said:

@Arthas045 said:
@PredatorRules said:

@dshockfury said:

@Arthas045: Thanks! Thinking maybe about budget of 500 but might be too ambitious.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3pCa5 enjoy =)

There you go, and the put together is very simple.

Always forgetting dvd drive and possibly needing a copy of windows and drop the hyper 212 for that cpu there's no need.

No, I never forget something that is not used.

About the CPU cooler, it really depends if you wish to OC it or not, I live in a hot country and it is essential to use a proper cooling.

To add a copy of OS will destroy this perfect IMO build, it's impossible to go with modern gaming with lower than 500$ for a complete build, you can pick up Xbox One for 500$ or PS4 for 400$ if that's your budget limit.

You dont assume anything based on what *you* dont use while others most likely will use it. DVD drive is so much less of a hassle to install windows and or games you have on disc then having to fiddle around with iso's and usb drives.

If the TC does not have A copy of windows you have to include it into the price or its not a valid option.

If you're an old school who like to install drivers with CDs which probably would update anyway via the internet.

About installing OS on USB flash drive it's easy as hell, it takes about 5 min with Microsoft actual program to do so.

its not that easy to install windows from a usb when you have to ether download an iso or still have to use a dvd drive from another source to grab the data then format the usb with the tool and then you can install or you can grab the disc pop in in and your done noting having to fool around with the other crap.

EDIT: with their program you actually have to choose the ISO, this is not a difficult task at all - but yes I agree that a CD would be much easier solution - but I see only 1 point of it - to install OS, how many time do you do that? once every few years? that's not a reason to install such ugly bulky thing called CD ROM.

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#18  Edited By 04dcarraher
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@PredatorRules said:

@04dcarraher said:

@PredatorRules said:

@04dcarraher said:

@PredatorRules said:

@04dcarraher said:

@Arthas045 said:
@PredatorRules said:

@dshockfury said:

@Arthas045: Thanks! Thinking maybe about budget of 500 but might be too ambitious.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3pCa5 enjoy =)

There you go, and the put together is very simple.

Always forgetting dvd drive and possibly needing a copy of windows and drop the hyper 212 for that cpu there's no need.

No, I never forget something that is not used.

About the CPU cooler, it really depends if you wish to OC it or not, I live in a hot country and it is essential to use a proper cooling.

To add a copy of OS will destroy this perfect IMO build, it's impossible to go with modern gaming with lower than 500$ for a complete build, you can pick up Xbox One for 500$ or PS4 for 400$ if that's your budget limit.

You dont assume anything based on what *you* dont use while others most likely will use it. DVD drive is so much less of a hassle to install windows and or games you have on disc then having to fiddle around with iso's and usb drives.

If the TC does not have A copy of windows you have to include it into the price or its not a valid option.

If you're an old school who like to install drivers with CDs which probably would update anyway via the internet.

About installing OS on USB flash drive it's easy as hell, it takes about 5 min with Microsoft actual program to do so.

its not that easy to install windows from a usb when you have to ether download an iso or still have to use a dvd drive from another source to grab the data then format the usb with the tool and then you can install or you can grab the disc pop in in and your done noting having to fool around with the other crap.

Microsoft actually offers you a program that will do it for you.

yes I know but you still need the iso from site or OS disc to create an iso its takes more time then just popping in the disc and still requires you having a dvd drive if you cant get an iso from internet.

  1. Create an ISO file from the Windows 7/8. This is the procedure by which you create a single file, called an ISO image, that contains all the data stored on the Windows 8 setup DVD disc.
    Once you have an ISO image created from your Windows 8 disc, come back here and continue on with this tutorial which will explain how to get that ISO file onto a flash drive.
    Note: If you already know how to create ISO files with your favorite program, often called "ripping," then do so in whatever way you're used to doing it. However, if you've never created an ISO image, or don't have a program installed right now that does it, please see the linked tutorial above for complete instructions on doing so with a free program.
  2. Download the Windows 7 USB/DVD Download Tool from Microsoft and then install it.
    This free program from Microsoft properly formats your flash drive and then copies the contents of the Windows 8 installation ISO file you have to that flash drive.
    Note: Don't worry that this program has Windows 7 in the title. This program works perfectly well with Windows 8 ISO files and can be used in Windows 8, Windows 7, Windows Vista, or Windows XP.
  3. Start the Windows 7 USB DVD Download Tool program. You should be able to find the shortcut on the Desktop, as well as in your Start menu or on your Start screen, depending on which version of Windows you installed the program on.
  4. Click Browse on the Step 1 of 4: Choose ISO file screen.
  5. Locate, and then select, your Windows 8 ISO file. Then click or touch Open.
    Note: If you downloaded Windows 8 from Microsoft, check your Downloads folder or your Desktop for the ISO image. If you created an ISO image from your Windows 8 DVD, the ISO file will be wherever you created it to.
  6. Click or touch Next.
  7. Choose USB device on the Step 2 of 4: Choose media type screen.
    Note: As you can see here, there is also a DVD option. While it doesn't do us much good in this case, since the end game is to get Windows 8's setup files on a flash drive, you could also use this tool to burn a Windows 8 ISO image to a DVD or BD disc.
  8. On the Step 3 of 4: Insert USB device screen, choose from the drop-down box the flash drive or USB-connected external hard drive you want to put the Windows 8 setup files onto and then touch or click Begin copying.
    Tip: If you haven't yet plugged in the USB storage device you're planning on using, you can do that now and then touch or click the blue refresh button to make it show up in the list.
  9. Click or touch Erase USB Device if you're prompted to do so on a Not Enough Free Space window. If you don't see this, don't worry, it just means that your flash drive or external hard disk is already empty.
    Important: If this message didn't make it apparent, you should know that whatever data you might have on this drive is going to be erased as part of the process of getting the Windows 8 setup files copied.
  10. On Step 4 of 4: Creating bootable USB device, just wait for the Windows 7 USB DVD Download Tool to prepare the drive and copy the Windows 8 installation files to it.
    The first Status you see will be Formatting, which will take anywhere from a few to several seconds, depending on how large the USB drive is that you're using. Next will be Copying files which could take anywhere from 15 to 30 minutes, possibly longer, depending on which Windows 8 ISO file you're working from, as well as on how fast your flash drive, USB connection, and computer is.
    Tip: Don't worry if the percentage indicator jumps ahead quickly but then sits on a single number for a very long time. While it might not make a lot of sense to behave that way, it doesn't necessarily mean anything is wrong.
  11. Assuming everything went as planned, the next screen should say Bootable USB device created successfully with a Status that says Backup completed.
    You can now close the Windows 7 USB DVD Download Tool program window. The flash drive, or other external USB drive you're using, now has the necessary files on it to install Windows 8 and is also properly configured to be booted from.
  12. Boot from the USB device that you just created to start the Windows 8 install process.
    Tip: If the Windows 8 setup process doesn't start, it's very likely that you'll need to make boot order changes in the BIOS. See How To Change the Boot Order in BIOS if you need help doing that.
    Tip: If you have a UEFI based system and you still can't boot Windows 8 Setup from the flash drive, even after setting the USB device first in the boot order, see Tip #1 below for help.

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@04dcarraher said:

@PredatorRules said:

@04dcarraher said:

@PredatorRules said:

@04dcarraher said:

@PredatorRules said:

@04dcarraher said:

@Arthas045 said:
@PredatorRules said:

@dshockfury said:

@Arthas045: Thanks! Thinking maybe about budget of 500 but might be too ambitious.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3pCa5 enjoy =)

There you go, and the put together is very simple.

Always forgetting dvd drive and possibly needing a copy of windows and drop the hyper 212 for that cpu there's no need.

No, I never forget something that is not used.

About the CPU cooler, it really depends if you wish to OC it or not, I live in a hot country and it is essential to use a proper cooling.

To add a copy of OS will destroy this perfect IMO build, it's impossible to go with modern gaming with lower than 500$ for a complete build, you can pick up Xbox One for 500$ or PS4 for 400$ if that's your budget limit.

You dont assume anything based on what *you* dont use while others most likely will use it. DVD drive is so much less of a hassle to install windows and or games you have on disc then having to fiddle around with iso's and usb drives.

If the TC does not have A copy of windows you have to include it into the price or its not a valid option.

If you're an old school who like to install drivers with CDs which probably would update anyway via the internet.

About installing OS on USB flash drive it's easy as hell, it takes about 5 min with Microsoft actual program to do so.

its not that easy to install windows from a usb when you have to ether download an iso or still have to use a dvd drive from another source to grab the data then format the usb with the tool and then you can install or you can grab the disc pop in in and your done noting having to fool around with the other crap.

Microsoft actually offers you a program that will do it for you.

yes I know but you still need the iso from site or OS disc to create an iso its takes more time then just popping in the disc and still requires you having a dvd drive if you cant get an iso from internet.

  1. Create an ISO file from the Windows 7/8. This is the procedure by which you create a single file, called an ISO image, that contains all the data stored on the Windows 8 setup DVD disc.
    Once you have an ISO image created from your Windows 8 disc, come back here and continue on with this tutorial which will explain how to get that ISO file onto a flash drive.
    Note: If you already know how to create ISO files with your favorite program, often called "ripping," then do so in whatever way you're used to doing it. However, if you've never created an ISO image, or don't have a program installed right now that does it, please see the linked tutorial above for complete instructions on doing so with a free program.
  2. Download the Windows 7 USB/DVD Download Tool from Microsoft and then install it.
    This free program from Microsoft properly formats your flash drive and then copies the contents of the Windows 8 installation ISO file you have to that flash drive.
    Note: Don't worry that this program has Windows 7 in the title. This program works perfectly well with Windows 8 ISO files and can be used in Windows 8, Windows 7, Windows Vista, or Windows XP.
  3. Start the Windows 7 USB DVD Download Tool program. You should be able to find the shortcut on the Desktop, as well as in your Start menu or on your Start screen, depending on which version of Windows you installed the program on.
  4. Click Browse on the Step 1 of 4: Choose ISO file screen.
  5. Locate, and then select, your Windows 8 ISO file. Then click or touch Open.
    Note: If you downloaded Windows 8 from Microsoft, check your Downloads folder or your Desktop for the ISO image. If you created an ISO image from your Windows 8 DVD, the ISO file will be wherever you created it to.
  6. Click or touch Next.
  7. Choose USB device on the Step 2 of 4: Choose media type screen.
    Note: As you can see here, there is also a DVD option. While it doesn't do us much good in this case, since the end game is to get Windows 8's setup files on a flash drive, you could also use this tool to burn a Windows 8 ISO image to a DVD or BD disc.
  8. On the Step 3 of 4: Insert USB device screen, choose from the drop-down box the flash drive or USB-connected external hard drive you want to put the Windows 8 setup files onto and then touch or click Begin copying.
    Tip: If you haven't yet plugged in the USB storage device you're planning on using, you can do that now and then touch or click the blue refresh button to make it show up in the list.
  9. Click or touch Erase USB Device if you're prompted to do so on a Not Enough Free Space window. If you don't see this, don't worry, it just means that your flash drive or external hard disk is already empty.
    Important: If this message didn't make it apparent, you should know that whatever data you might have on this drive is going to be erased as part of the process of getting the Windows 8 setup files copied.
  10. On Step 4 of 4: Creating bootable USB device, just wait for the Windows 7 USB DVD Download Tool to prepare the drive and copy the Windows 8 installation files to it.
    The first Status you see will be Formatting, which will take anywhere from a few to several seconds, depending on how large the USB drive is that you're using. Next will be Copying files which could take anywhere from 15 to 30 minutes, possibly longer, depending on which Windows 8 ISO file you're working from, as well as on how fast your flash drive, USB connection, and computer is.
    Tip: Don't worry if the percentage indicator jumps ahead quickly but then sits on a single number for a very long time. While it might not make a lot of sense to behave that way, it doesn't necessarily mean anything is wrong.
  11. Assuming everything went as planned, the next screen should say Bootable USB device created successfully with a Status that says Backup completed.
    You can now close the Windows 7 USB DVD Download Tool program window. The flash drive, or other external USB drive you're using, now has the necessary files on it to install Windows 8 and is also properly configured to be booted from.
  12. Boot from the USB device that you just created to start the Windows 8 install process.
    Tip: If the Windows 8 setup process doesn't start, it's very likely that you'll need to make boot order changes in the BIOS. See How To Change the Boot Order in BIOS if you need help doing that.
    Tip: If you have a UEFI based system and you still can't boot Windows 8 Setup from the flash drive, even after setting the USB device first in the boot order, see Tip #1 below for help.

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