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#1 Posted by overhead_drums (335 posts) -

So im looking at returning my GPU and getting a Nvidia as i ran into sooo many problems. At the moment i have a XFX HD 7970 Double dissapation. In a way, i kind of want a slight upgrade on my card aswell, i would rather pay a bit more and upgrade than get one lower down in terms of performance. Would this gtx 680 be an upgrade?

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-evga-gtx-680-28nm-pcie-30-(x16)-6008mhz-gddr5-gpu-1006mhz-boost-1058mhz-cores-1536-2x-dl-dvi-dp-

Let me know what you think, cheers guys!

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#2 Posted by homeboylizard (1289 posts) -

What kind of problems? Technical or software? Also, are you going to get a refund for the 7970 or a replacement of some kind?

EDIT: Also, the GTX 680 only performs slighlty better than the GTX 670...we are talking about 3-5 FPS increase with stock speeds. The 670 can be easily overclocked well above the stock speeds of a GTX 680 and I don't see a reason to spend a lot of extra money on a slight increase.

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#3 Posted by overhead_drums (335 posts) -
Hi mate, Just a load of crashes in all kinds of games but not while stress testing, its got a pc tech shop i went to baffled as well. Would a 670 out perform my 7970 then?
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#4 Posted by overhead_drums (335 posts) -
Just to add using this site (http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_list.php)i have had a look at the G3D marks. All these cards are stock i presume. 7970: 4942 670: 5254 680: 5557 Looking at this the 670/680 achieve a higher score, would i be accurate in saying that they are the better cards. To be honest, any card is better than mine atm...lol Cheers.
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#5 Posted by Marfoo (5998 posts) -
With the latest driver the HD 7970 and 7970 GHz Edition and the GTX 670 and 680 are pretty much neck and neck. If you're crashing a lot, maybe you have a lemon? Are you using the latest drivers? Anyway, look at these graphs, particularly for 1920x1200 with the 12.11 drivers (1080p), switching to a GTX 670/680 will not be an upgrade at all.
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#6 Posted by homeboylizard (1289 posts) -
Did you update your drivers to the latest version--> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx That is very important. And also, there isn't a ''clear'' winner between 7970 GHz edition and GTX 670/680. Radeon beats Nvidia by a few FPS in majority of games, but NV has Physx and some AA tech up their sleeve. Just 1 more thing, could you post all your specs here (PSU, CPU, RAM...)? If you don't know them just download a program called Speccy...it's free.
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#7 Posted by overhead_drums (335 posts) -
Hey guys, my spec are as follows: OCZ ZS 750watt PSU ASUS M4N98TD EVO motherboard Phenom II x6 1100t G skills 8GB RIPJAWS 1600mhz XFX 7970 Double D I have nothing overclocked and all runs as standard. I have tried multiple drivers from the XFX and AMD websites and the BETA drivers. My crashes consist of BSOD's Lock ups and the screen losing signal. This all depends on which driver/which game. Its doing my head in... Cheers for the help guys! x
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#8 Posted by overhead_drums (335 posts) -

Also to add i have even taken my pc into a computer specialist store and they say it seems the drivers are the issue. I don't want to have a crashing card until eventually good drivers are released.... I really feel it must be the card though, surely!

EDIT: Also if im using the 12.10 drivers, would i install the Catalyst application profiles driver aswell? Becuase i've been installing this aswell as the 12.10 driver. could this cause my crashes? it says on the nvidia site something about supporting crossfire x, and i've only got the one card. Surely having this installed as well as the 12.10 driver wouldnt cause a crash.

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#9 Posted by MonsieurX (36898 posts) -
If drivers aren't the issue,must be the card then. Send it back for RMA
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#10 Posted by overhead_drums (335 posts) -
Trying to do so at the moment XFX are being very unhelpful, because I stated I lack the knowledge to deem the card faulty myself, they have decided that means there is nothing wrong with it. Morons. Has anyone else ever had a faulty card that crashed and bsod randomly in games but survived all stress tests?
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#11 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6711 posts) -

no card is better than the 7970 at the moment, so any card you get will be a down grade. However perhaps its not your gpu that is the problem, if it survives all the stress tests. Try stressing the cpu and the ram.

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#12 Posted by overhead_drums (335 posts) -

Another queston, with my specs, which chipset drivers do i need i assume AMD but intel ones were found on my machine....weird.... What drivers do i need to make sure i am FULLY up to date?

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#13 Posted by homeboylizard (1289 posts) -

Okay, just to make sure...run a few stress test apps to check if something else might be the problem: RAM test: http://www.memtest86.com/ CPU test: I don't have a lot of experince with these ones but go for the Prime95...i think GPU test: I personaly use EVGA OC ScannerX but MSI Kombustor is good too. Also, if you want, download a benchmarking tool like 3DMark 11 and run everything on default. If it really is your GPU then you got a lemon...and return it.

EDIT: Have you tried to downclock your card (below stock clocks)? Or raising the voltage to stabilze it? Just throwing it out there.

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#14 Posted by Marfoo (5998 posts) -

Also to add i have even taken my pc into a computer specialist store and they say it seems the drivers are the issue. I don't want to have a crashing card until eventually good drivers are released.... I really feel it must be the card though, surely!

EDIT: Also if im using the 12.10 drivers, would i install the Catalyst application profiles driver aswell? Becuase i've been installing this aswell as the 12.10 driver. could this cause my crashes? it says on the nvidia site something about supporting crossfire x, and i've only got the one card. Surely having this installed as well as the 12.10 driver wouldnt cause a crash.

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The application profiles will only change the way the driver is optimized for your games and not affect the driver itself. It is okay to install them along with any driver.