Building a comp, do I have everything I need?

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#1 fiendless7
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Intel Core i7-920 Processor 279.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115202&cm_re=Intel_Core_i7-920_Processor-_-19-115-202-_-Product

Nvidia 480 GTX Fermi 534.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130551&cm_re=geforce_gtx_480-_-14-130-551-_-Product

ASUS P6X58D-E LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard 239.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131641

COOLER MASTER Storm Scout SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 79.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119196

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL 109.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive 74.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319

CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply 89.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005

The total is around 1400. I don't know much about this stuff as its my first time building, but I do know I want the graphics card and intel i7. However if anyone can find a cheaper of anything else, or notices that I'm missing anything, I'd appreciate it so much. My goal was around 1200 dollars, I already have a keyboard, mouse, monitor, and cd/dvd drives from my old computer.

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The only problem I see is that you have a 2x2GB dual-channel RAM kit selected. Since you're choosing to go with an LGA 1366 motherboard with an i7 processor, you should instead get a 6 GB (3x2GB) triple-channel kit. The reason being that LGA 1366 mobos support triple-channel RAM, so you are hurting your performance by not putting a stick of RAM (DIMM) in each channel.

Other than that, the system will be a BEAST. If you want to get your computer under the $1200 mark, here are some suggestions that will give you near-equivalent gaming performance:

CPU- Switch to an AMD Phenom II X4 or X6.

Motherboard- Switch to an AMD socket AM3 motherboard

GPU- Switch to an ATI 5870

or, if you're an Intel/Nvidia loyalist--

CPU- Switch to a Core i5 750 (quad-core) Nearly identical gaming performance

Motherboard- switch to a far less expensive Socket 1156 mobo

GPU- Switch to a GTX 470

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#3 fiendless7
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I am not a loyalist, I've just ALWAYS used nvidia and intel and never had any problems, I'm willing to try new things though. I really do appreciate you looking at the build for me though, I am going to plug those you suggested into Excel and see what I can get my price down to.

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#5 zbdyx
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The 480 is a bad choice IMO. Horrible power consumption, heat, and it only only outperforms the 5870 in some cases. Unless you are editing videos or in graphic design the i7 is not needed.
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#6 fiendless7
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Okay by doing some research I brought it down to 1200 thanks to you. Here's a replacement mobo, gpu, and cpu, critique? Also I'm not sure about RAM usage with this mobo either, will the ones I linked before be optimal?

ASUS Crosshair III Formula AM3 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard 199.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131392&cm_re=AMD_socket_AM3_motherboard-_-13-131-392-_-Product

AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor 204.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103851&cm_re=AMD_Phenom_II_x6-_-19-103-851-_-Product

HIS H587F1GDG Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card w/ATI Eyefinity 424.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161301&cm_re=5870_radeon-_-14-161-301-_-Product

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#7 hartsickdiscipl
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Looks great. I would personally spend less on the motherboard, but it will work beautifully together. The RAM in your original post will be fine for this motherboard/CPU. I hope you enjoy!

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#8 abusedbunny
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i think he should get a better power supply. Hell be disappointed down the road when he wants to crossfire another 5870 and cant because his psu doesnt have enough connectors.
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#9 fiendless7
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A better power supply? Damn I was hoping to use my old one from my Dell XPS 400 to save some money... if I can just drop 200 dollars this would be in my price range.

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#10 hartsickdiscipl
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A better power supply? Damn I was hoping to use my old one from my Dell XPS 400 to save some money... if I can just drop 200 dollars this would be in my price range.

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I thought you had already shaved enough cost off by switching to the AMD AM3 platform and the 5870.

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#11 fiendless7
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It's a work in progress lol, the cheaper the better (without losing much performance). I think I've settled on a build that I feel comfortable with, well mostly. Here's my updated build, tell me if my power supply is powerful enough, and if there will be any bottlenecking occuring:

MSI 790X-G45 AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard 99.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130249

GIGABYTE GV-R587UD-1GD Radeon HD 5870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card 529.98 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.383391 AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ955FBGMBOX

Western Digital Caviar Green WD6400AADS 640GB 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive 54.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136527

Rosewill RP600V2-S-SL 600W ATX12V v2.01 SLI Ready Power Supply 54.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182032 G.SKILL

Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL 109.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277

COOLER MASTER Storm Scout SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 79.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119196

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The only Rosewill PSUs that I can recommend are those from their "green series." The reason being that this series is actually manufactured by ABS, who generally specialize in making high-output, gamer-oriented PSUs. The rest of the Rosewill line is not generally very well known for quality or performance. For a single 5870 the Green series 630 watt is a heck of a bargain. I took a chance on Rosewill and got it myself (I usually stick to Antec, Cooler Master, or Corsair PSUs). So far this PSU has been rock solid and the specs are impressive for $60. The single 12-volt rail delivering 50 amps is huge, as is the fact that it's really a 730 watt peak PSU, with 630 watts continuous power.

That leads me to a couple of questions that I have about your future plans for this system. So far both motherboards that you've picked out are CrossfireX capable. Was that done intentionally? The reason I ask is this-- If you plan on possibly adding another 5870 down the road for Crossfire, you're going to want to go ahead and get a really beefy power supply straight away. It doesn't make sense to buy one that's fine for running a single 5870 now, and then have to spend more money to get a stronger one later when you decide to Crossfire. If you think adding a 2nd card down the road is a real possiblity, get at least a 750 watt Antec, Corsair, PC Power and Cooling, ABS, or Cooler Master PSU. Make sure that it has at least 4 6-pin (or 6+2 pin) PCI-E power connectors, as each 5870 uses 2 6-pin leads.

If you just happened to select those motherboards and have no intention of going Crossfire down the road, just get a higher-quality PSU than the one you linked to. Like I said earlier, the Rosewill Green Series aren't really Rosewill PSUs, and have gotten some great professional reviews. Otherwise you will spend a bit more to go with an Antec, Cooler Master, or Corsair (like the 650 watt you originally picked out-- more than enough for a single 5870), but you can be fairly certain that their full product line is of high-quality.

I hope that helps.

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that motherboards memory standard is really low. get the asus evo 790x for $8 more.
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I'd get some thermal paste.
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Id change the hard drive to

Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB 10000 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5"

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136555

This will make good use of the SATA 6.0Gb/s controller on your Mobo

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too bad its SOLD OUT!!!!
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#17 fiendless7
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300 dollars is way too much for a hard drive, for me. With that I can go back to my original setup of i7 and the gtx 480.

I've been looking at power supplies but don't really know what I'm looking at. Does someone mind "holding my hand" and finding me one that's not too overkill but will be sufficient enough to tackle what I'm trying to accomplish with my build?

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#18 abusedbunny
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do you want to crossfire or not?
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#19 fiendless7
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It wasnt my intention to use two 5870s, I just wanted one card. I did change to that mobo you suggested (

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131402&cm_re=asus_790x-_-13-131-402-_-Product)

, every thing seems set in stone except for the power supply...the one from my old comp is 375w, I dont think that will cut it will it?

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i would recommend this one for $85. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371026&Tpk=antec%20ea750

its a high quality brand, and if later you want better performance you can get another 5870, it has enough connectors to support it. plus its modular (less cable mess), but i suggest you get it soon the rebate ends today, otherwise its $105 which still isnt bad. but if you dont like it for some reason just make sure you get a decent brand aka cooler master, corsair, antec, enermax, silverstone, seventeam, thermaltake.... others not so much.

and change that caviar green 640gb to caviar black 640gb

you should probably get an aftermarket cpu cooler, doesnt have to be now, the 955 gets pretty high marks OCed

and remember to look at the combo list for every item your interested in

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Yeah, problem: the Storm Scout can not fit the 5870, nor the GTX 480. You're going to need to get another case if you want to get those cards.

I would recommend you get this combo with the GX 750w and the CM 690 II Advanced: Link. That case will fit the 5870, and you'll have enough power for crossfire later on as well.

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#22 fiendless7
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Well I'm about to order, I've taken your advice and that combo is VERY nice.

My only worry is that it all won't be able to fit correctly... like how would I know the motherboard will match up to the case?


I don't want to order the case and it not match up and fit correctly.

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#23 hartsickdiscipl
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Well I'm about to order, I've taken your advice and that combo is VERY nice.

My only worry is that it all won't be able to fit correctly... like how would I know the motherboard will match up to the case?


I don't want to order the case and it not match up and fit correctly.

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Cases and motherboards are made to standard sizes with standard screw-hole placements and such. The standard is called ATX, with a few variants. You have nothing to worry about.

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#24 italygamer
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I advice not to build a gaming rig at this point in time, but to wait for the next gen, unless you don't care about multiplat games at all.

But, I think this gen will last another 2-3 years, I'd wait for the new consoles to come out and then consider upgrading my rig, because PROBABLY, who knows, you'll need to upgrade it again in a couple of years and that'd be a waste of money imo.

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#25 fiendless7
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Do I need to buy a heatsink or will my mobo come with one?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131402

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Do I need to buy a heatsink or will my mobo come with one?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131402

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If you buy a "retail," boxed CPU, it will come with a heatsink/fan cooler. The motherboard doesn't come with it, the processor does.

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#27 fiendless7
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Alright man well I've ordered everything and it's supposed to arrive Thursday. I do appreciate all of your help, you're a saint my friend!