hey, So I own a gtx 260 and have been since the end of 2008 which has been 6 months and it is going great. My concern though is will the new DX11 cards come out soon, and once it is released will all games need DX11 as recommended or minimium requirements? Will I have to buy a graphics card to even play a DX11 game at playable frames? Finally, should I sell my current card when it comes out and switch over to a DX11 card? In other words will this leap mean my GPU will be dirt worthless?
[QUOTE="Perhampus"]hey, So I own a gtx 260 and have been since the end of 2008 which has been 6 months and it is going great. My concern though is will the new DX11 cards come out soon, and once it is released will all games need DX11 as recommended or minimium requirements? Will I have to buy a graphics card to even play a DX11 game at playable frames? Finally, should I sell my current card when it comes out and switch over to a DX11 card? In other words will this leap mean my GPU will be dirt worthless? DirectX 10 hasn't even been phased completely yet. I would expect the same thing to happen DirectX11.
I can't imagine so. Considering you can still play games with cards that came out during the DX9 days. If so, my investment in 2 4890s will be utter trash and I will cry a little inside.
DX11 cards should be out before the end of the year but i wouldnt worry about DX11 becoming minimum. DX10 still is hardly used and game companies are about making as much money as possible so they wouldnt make a game that only 3% of computers could even run. If you have a friend that could use it then you could sell it to him for somewhat cheap but online i dont know how much you would get. Its not the best card out there and people dont usually like used computer parts too much especially from strangers.
DX11 cards should be out before the end of the year but i wouldnt worry about DX11 becoming minimum. DX10 still is hardly used and game companies are about making as much money as possible so they wouldnt make a game that only 3% of computers could even run. If you have a friend that could use it then you could sell it to him for somewhat cheap but online i dont know how much you would get. Its not the best card out there and people dont usually like used computer parts too much especially from strangers.Kurushio
The smart companies continue to support all the way to DX9, building a game engine running across them is not hard like it has always been. Shader Model 3+ will all be supported. DX11 though actually gives a big benefit over DX9 in terms of ease of use, visuals and performance which is why they are bring it out with Windows 7.
That is because DX10 is harder to dev with then DX9 at least if you are making your whole engine based off of it, which is why DX11 is coming out sooner. To makes this fact even more apparent, iD Tech 5 being used in Rage and Doom 4(makes Crysis look nasty) will be using DX9.
No, because you will be running your game on DX10 which your card is made for. Unless Crysis and Rage quality looks like garbage to you and those are DX9.
That is because DX10 is harder to dev with then DX9 at least if you are making your whole engine based off of it, which is why DX11 is coming out sooner. To makes this fact even more apparent, iD Tech 5 being used in Rage and Doom 4(makes Crysis look nasty) will be using DX9.
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I havent even seen what those games look like yet, but Im a sucker for any doom game.
The consoles can't even handle a decent DX9 so I wouldn't worry about that. Look for the Rage trailers, all iD Tech 5 and not running on massive hardware.
There is nothing that is DX11 based right now and your card can't even run DX11 so I have no idea what your talking. No it will not take 5 years, lmao the reason devs didn't take advantage of DX10 is because Vista sucked and DX10s major gains is more trouble then it's worth.
[QUOTE="ryokinshin6x3"]There is nothing that is DX11 based right now and your card can't even run DX11 so I have no idea what your talking.saswannabe17
Pretending to know what you obviously don't? http://viiiguild.co.cc/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3&stc=1&d=1244056657 Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit (6.1, Build 7100) (7100.winmain_win7rc.090421-1700) DirectX Version: DirectX 11 That link doesn't work for non-logged in users, but yes Windows 7 has DX11, I run it as well. However it is being used more or less in compatibility mode. As no GPU can handle DX11.
Like I said, your GFX card is not DX11, so your not going to run anything DX11. All those people with DX9 cards on Vista aren't running DX10, don't argue if you don't know.
Like I said, your GFX card is not DX11, so your not going to run anything DX11.ryokinshin6x3
OK, I think I understand what you're trying to say. To be clear, I'm running dx11 just fine. My card, however, is not rendering in dx11. Drawing compatibility assumptions, however, seems rather irrational considering there isn't any dx11 content. As of now, Intel is pissed because their low-end integrated cards will be unable to handle dx11. Reference: http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/Axion22/microsoft-strips-windows-7-pushes-dx11-back-69102.phtml
[QUOTE="ryokinshin6x3"]Like I said, your GFX card is not DX11, so your not going to run anything DX11.saswannabe17
OK, I think I understand what you're trying to say. To be clear, I'm running dx11 just fine. My card, however, is not rendering in dx11. Drawing compatibility assumptions, however, seems rather irrational considering there isn't any dx11 content. As of now, Intel is pissed because their low-end integrated cards will be unable to handle dx11. Reference: http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/Axion22/microsoft-strips-windows-7-pushes-dx11-back-69102.phtml Intel? Graphics cards? Intel pissed? Intel has no right to be pissed because there GPUs are BS. And yes, you're not even using DX11-only stuff yet. We'll have to wait and see what this thing can pull off. Crysis 3?
[QUOTE="saswannabe17"][QUOTE="ryokinshin6x3"]Like I said, your GFX card is not DX11, so your not going to run anything DX11.gigatrainer
OK, I think I understand what you're trying to say. To be clear, I'm running dx11 just fine. My card, however, is not rendering in dx11. Drawing compatibility assumptions, however, seems rather irrational considering there isn't any dx11 content. As of now, Intel is pissed because their low-end integrated cards will be unable to handle dx11. Reference: http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/Axion22/microsoft-strips-windows-7-pushes-dx11-back-69102.phtml Intel? Graphics cards? Intel pissed? Intel has no right to be pissed because there GPUs are BS. /sign
[QUOTE="ryokinshin6x3"]They are coming out with their own pcie cards later this year, they bought a whole game and engine studio to help optimize. saswannabe17
You've yet to give a single reference. Who's coming out with their own pci-e cards? I think he meant Intel. I read about that too.
u wont be seeing full dx11 games for a long time maybe even till 2011-12 come on most games on pc are ported from consoles which use dx 9 and pc developers are not gonna use Dx11 right away when hardly anyone has it on top of that the time it takes to develop these games
So? A lot of devs that are multiplat are putting the effort into the PC engine so it does support the new hardware/API. If the API and the software that it launches on sucks, you can't blame the developer.
....its not any harder to develop for dx10. But if you were to, you would be aiming at small audience. dx10 is actually easier to develop for and runs better then 9 but, money my friend, you need money, so they aim for the market. That is why developers have been making dx 9 games, larger audience as well they have the option of consoles ports. DX 11 is not any different then 10 other then a few tweaks here and there. What dx 11 makes it a jump from say just being dx10.2 is that a developer can develop a dx11 only game and when a person wants to play it, the game will read the hardware/api architecture make the pipelines to that graphics card, like if its a dx9 card, it will work in dx9, but if its a dx10 card it will use dx 10 and get a performance boost as well as option of extra features. dx11 is really just for developers so they can make dx10 games without worrying about the dx9 audience. dx 10 currently is added to games like crysis, aren't running in dx10, they are running in dx9 with the feature tacked on, making for a large performance loss instead of gain.
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