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#1 mitu123
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"PC gaming is all out extreme performance and eye-popping visuals. DirectX games on Windows are always pushing the boundaries of the latest graphics hardware and software technology that will bring things to the next level. In this article Im going to share with you an amazing set of experiences that I recently had pushing the boundaries of 4K multi-mon gaming with several Sharp PN-K321 4K Ultra HD displays that I had on loan for a short period of time. Ill start with some scenarios that have been tested before and then walk through a technology demonstration and collaboration that I worked on with AMD to see how far we could push things. Lets just say this was an intense experience!

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Three Sharp PN-K321 Display Gaming Setup running Windows 8 (click/tap to enlarge)

Ever since I had my first taste of 4K resolution gaming on Windows 8 (which you can read about here) Ive been wanting to explore some additional related scenarios. First, I was thinking it would be awesome to try 4K multi-mon gaming. Second, I wanted to see how the 4K gaming experience would change when the screen refresh rate was pushed from 30 Hz to 60 Hz. Finally, I thought it would be amazing if I could push a tri-mon 4K setup to 60 Hz. Things were about to get real interesting.

12K Multi-Mon PC Gaming

So there I was rolling a cart with $15,000 worth of displays towards the lab. What am I going to try first I asked myself How about a 3x1 12K setup with a DirectX 11 game? I couldnt wait to get started.

The first question that I had was how I was going to connect these displays to a PC. I then pondered how much graphics horsepower I would need to run a DirectX 11 game at 30 Hz (the highest frame rate possible over single-stream connections). I called up my friend Jeff from AMD to discuss this project, and he said I have just the video card for this. Jeff brought over an ASUS HD 7970 DirectCU II card that is equipped with four full-size DisplayPort outputs.

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ASUS HD 7970 DirectCU II 3-wide card installed in Windows 8 gaming PC (click/tap to enlarge)

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The ASUS HD 7970 DirectCU II features 6 full-size connectors for output (click/tap to enlarge)

Once the displays were setup and connected via DisplayPort, I created a 3x1 Eyefinity display group in the AMD Vision Engine Control Center. Wow! A display surface with a resolution of 11,520 x 2,160 amazing!

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3x1 4K Display Eyefinity display group (11,520 x 2,160 resolution, click/tap to enlarge)

I opened the Display Control Panel and confirmed that Windows now saw this Eyefinity display group as a giant display surface:

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Display CPL Screen Resolutions view for 3x1 4K Eyefinity setup (click/tap to enlarge)

This setup is the equivalent of 12 1920x1080 displays, thats a total of 24,883,200 pixels! The last time I tried DirectX 11 gaming at 4K I used a single AMD 7970 card and was able to hold 30 Hz no problem with Max Payne 3. Now I was about to find out how the same graphics hardware would perform with three 4K displays running at 30 Hz. I decided to run Dirt3 since the panoramic effect of 3 displays would work well with that game. Would this setup be able to hold 30 Hz with a single AMD 7970 graphics card? I was about to find out!

Running Dirt3 at 11,520 x 2,160 with settings maxed out resulted in a frame rate just below the 30 Hz target. I closely examined my graphics settings, and was able to turn off some features that optimized the gameplay experience. One of the most important changes I made was to turn off multisampling as its not important at high resolutions and it does impose a performance penalty. Settling on medium to high overall settings I was able to hold an average frame rate of about 35fps. Because I was not dropping frames with this setup the overall gameplay experience was awesome, and the sheer quantity of pixels was truly like nothing Ive experienced before!

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Screenshot: Dirt3 at 11,520 x 2,160 resolution (click/tap for full resolution image)

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GoPro3 wide angle view of 12K Dirt3 gaming setup in action (click/tap to enlarge)

This was an awesome setup, but I was also wondering how the 4K 60 Hz gaming experience would feel. The next logical step was to try out the MST (Multi-Stream Transport) capability that the Sharp PN-K321 supports to push the screen refresh rate up to 60 Hz.

4K Gaming at 60 Hz using MST

With 4K display technology just emerging in the US this year, this technology is still very new. You can connect 4K displays to a Windows 8 PC over HDMI or DisplayPort, but there are some special considerations if you demand high frame rates. By default displays connected via DisplayPort or HDMI will max out at a 30 Hz refresh rate. This is due to bandwidth limitations inherent with the existing standardized specifications for these display connectivity busses. In order to support a 60 Hz display refresh rate at 4K you need to use more than one stream. When MST is enabled on the Sharp PN-K321, two display surfaces are presented over a single DisplayPort connection. What you end up with is two portrait mode displays, one for each half of the physical display. I added a second AMD 7970 card in Crossfire mode just in case additional GPU horsepower was needed for 60 Hz gaming with this setup.

Display CPL Sharp PN-K321 MST mode before Eyefinity
Sharp PN-K321 4K display as presented in Windows before Eyefinity setup (click/tap to enlarge)

The important thing about MST is that each stream (display seen above) can be driven at higher refresh rates, 60 Hz in this case. By using AMD Eyefinity these two display surfaces can be unified as a single 3,840 x 2,160 virtual display capable of full 60 Hz refresh rate.

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Success! Full 4K Ultra HD resolution at 60 Hz

Wow, the textures in the game and the fluid motion at 60 Hz was just astounding. I cranked up all the setttings to high and was still pushing ~150fps. I dont think I needed the second 7970 card, but I had it on hand, so why not?

The following video shows both of these gaming scenarios in action:

 

Pushing 12K PC Gaming to 60 Hz

Both of the previous scenarios (4K 3x1 at 30 Hz and 4K 1x1 at 60 Hz) were trouble-free and are supported by the AMD graphics drivers and software I had installed. But what I really wanted to experience was a full 3x1 12K panoramic gaming experience at 60 Hz. I called up Jeff at AMD again and he was interested in trying this out since he wasnt aware of anyone testing this type of setup. The events that would follow would push the limits of everything we had at our disposal. Could it be done? Read on.

In order to test this scenario we would need to leverage MST on the Sharp PN-K321 displays, leverage DisplayPort connectivity for all displays, and use Crossfire to supply enough GPU resources to push 12K resolution at 60 Hz. Sounds like fun to me!

Day 1:
We decided to run the ASUS HD 7970 DirectCU II card as the primary card due to the 4 full-size DisplayPort connectors that it supplied. We added a second AMD 7970 card in Crossfire mode, and went through the process of setting up the MST display groups. This did not work since this configuration hasnt been tested and is not supported.

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Jeff configuring the AMD 7970 CrossFire setup (click/tap to enlarge)

Determined to experience 12K 60hz gaming, Jeff asked his team at AMD to produce a custom driver package so that we could test out this extreme 4K MST setup. With only one day remaining with the loaner Sharp PN-K321 displays, we knew we only had one shot at this. We would be stepping into new gaming territory if we succeeded.

Day2:
Jeff showed up the next morning with a custom driver build, extra GPU hardware, and many power connectors. We were determined to reach our goal. It wasnt a smooth process, but we were able to get all 6 virtual displays unified as an Eyefinity display group. We fired up Dirt3 and were not hopeful about gameplay because the intro screens were very choppy and slow. Lets try the game and see how it goes we agreed. Gameplay was not good as we were only getting 8fps. We spent a while adjusting graphics settings in the game, but decided that it was not going to work out with the hardware we had. We speculated that adding more GPU capability could potentially get over the threshold that was causing the thrashing that resulted in low fps numbers. We decided to add another 7970 card (for 3 total). This would be challenging as our case/motherboard was only setup to accommodate two cards, and we would need to install three cards (two double width, and one triple width). We both took a good look at the two gaming PCs we had on hand and decided that one of them may fit all three cards if we unbolted the power supply and pulled it out to make room for the 3rd card.

**Warning: do not try this at home replicating this setup could damage hardware and/or void your warranty!

We had to stretch one of our Crossfire bridge connectors a bit, and used every power adapter on hand to get everything connected. Jeff calculated that we had at least 50 watts of power to spare out of 750 watts total. Ugly as it was, the machine did boot just fine!

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3-way AMD 7970 Crossfire setup used for the 12K 60 Hz PC Gaming Technology Demo (click/tap to enlarge)

Running completely untested private drivers and bumping up against thermal and power thresholds, we ventured forth towards our goal of 60 Hz 12K gaming.

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Experimental 12K 60 Hz 3-way Crossfire gaming experience in action (click/tap to enlarge)

With all settings on High except shadow detail and particles, we were able to maintain 62-67fps average, peaking over 70fps. We were both able to experience this awesome gaming setup for several minutes each before the PSU would reset due to power overload. Perhaps we didnt have 50 watts to spare. We reached our goal and were able to see into the future of multi-mon gaming. Now thats a great day at work!

Here are some statistics for this demo:

  • GPU cores: 3 x 2,048 = 6,144 total cores
  • Rendered pixels per second = 11,520 x 2,160 x 60 Hz = 1,492,992,000

Regrettably I did have to ship back these amazing displays, but I enjoyed the time I had with them in my lab. I have more extreme 4K content related to the PN-K321 coming shortly, so stay tuned!"

Linky.

And that's just crazy!

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#2 MonsieurX
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And there goes 5k $
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#3 LordEC911
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Yeah, this has been posted a few times already.

Couple of things-
Technically it isn't 12k.
AMD's Eyefinity was used because they have support for MST. 

You might not want to post the entire article. I usually post a summary or small snippet and maybe a picture with a link. 

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#4 7MZ000
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Hope I can get a setup like that by 2022
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#5 GummiRaccoon
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Hope I can get a setup like that by 20227MZ000

My next computer upgrade is going to be 3 2560x1440 monitors.

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#6 Cyberdot
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Crazy.

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#7 JimmyJumpy
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Wow... that's some serious set-up.... :shock:

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#8 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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Makes my 2560x1080 feel so small... :(
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#9 deactivated-579f651eab962
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I like that he left his steam key for Dirt 3 in the corner of the Dirt 3 screenshot.
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#10 GTR12
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Why did they have a case if the GPU's clearly don't fit, are they too stupid to take the mobo out and just leave it on a table?

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#11 mitu123
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[QUOTE="7MZ000"]Hope I can get a setup like that by 2022GummiRaccoon

My next computer upgrade is going to be 3 2560x1440 monitors.

Damn that's crazy!

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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="7MZ000"]Hope I can get a setup like that by 2022mitu123

My next computer upgrade is going to be 3 2560x1440 monitors.

Damn that's crazy!

And demanding plus requires quite a bit of space.
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#13 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

My next computer upgrade is going to be 3 2560x1440 monitors.

horgen123

Damn that's crazy!

And demanding plus requires quite a bit of space.

Which I don't even have!

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#14 Allicrombie
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[QUOTE="horgen123"][QUOTE="mitu123"]Damn that's crazy!

mitu123

And demanding plus requires quite a bit of space.

Which I don't even have!

no one cares, mitu. =P
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#15 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="horgen123"] And demanding plus requires quite a bit of space. Allicrombie

Which I don't even have!

no one cares, mitu. =P

Lies and you know it!!!
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#16 mastershake575
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Man this stuff is crazy. I'm waiting like 1.5-2 years for nice 1440/1600p monitors (something simliar to a D Ultrasharp) to get under $350 and meanwhile people are already talking about 4K and 12K :shock:

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#17 DJ_Headshot
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Man this stuff is crazy. I'm waiting like 1.5-2 years for nice 1440/1600p monitors (something simliar to a D Ultrasharp) to get under $350 and meanwhile people are already talking about 4K and 12K :shock:

mastershake575
Well considering how long its been since 2560x1600 came out I'd say its about time just need the 4K displays to drop in price and gpu to get stronger.
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#18 JimmyJumpy
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[QUOTE="mastershake575"]

Man this stuff is crazy. I'm waiting like 1.5-2 years for nice 1440/1600p monitors (something simliar to a D Ultrasharp) to get under $350 and meanwhile people are already talking about 4K and 12K :shock:

DJ_Headshot

...()...just need the 4K displays to drop in price and gpu to get stronger.

And a hefty pay-raise...