10,000;1 or 30:000 contrast ratio?

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#1 shamimsaad03
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I'm looking at 2 tvs :

http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0926HDS0010099644&catid=24558&PCName=tv_samsung&logon=&langid=EN#

this has a contrast ratio of 30,000:1 which is awesome, but its only 40inches

However this one is 42inches:

http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?langid=EN&logon=&sku_id=0926HDS0010099920&CMP=ILC-BBY_hmpage_slide2

but only 10,000:1 contrast ratio.

Those 2 are the best I could find for that price range (

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#2 Strife88
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I would go with the Samsung personally. It's a brand new model that just came out last month and it's updated features make it a good buy. I have the exact same model except it's the one that came out before it and it's only 10,000:1, still full HD and 40 inches and with this being significantly higher you'll be satisfied with it for sure.
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#3 MindFreeze
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It isn't actually 30,000 to 1. I'm not too experienced on the subject but I'm sure you can read up on it. Sorry to be vague but I can't really explain it better than Google or someone else could.
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#4 shamimsaad03
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Yea bestbuy is advertising with the wrong information, again.

http://www.samsung.com/ca/consumer/detail/spec.do?group=tv&type=tv&subtype=lcd&model_cd=LN40A530P1FXZC&fullspec=F

20,000:1 and there not the new samsung the new ones have the T before the model name. So which do you guys recomend?

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#5 IcemanLBC
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contrast ratio measures the difference between pure white and pure black which is very important.

unfortunetly every vendor uses a different measurement system to measure, there is not one unified measurement

theoretically a vendor could have a contrast ratio of 10 to 1, that is better than one with a 100,000 to 1 ratio.

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#6 Profex13
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The only way that you can really compare contrast ratios is by looking at different screens from the same manufacturer. If you see that a manufacturer has 2 different models, a 30,000:1 model and a 40,000:1 model; then the 30,000:1 model is clearly the lower end model. But, if a manufacturer has 10,000:1 and 20,000:1 model, then clearly the 20,000:1 is the high end model. But you still don't know if the 20,000:1 model is better or worse then the 30,000:1 model, since they're from different manufacturers. So, as the above poster said it pretty hard to compare between different manufacturers. I'd just look at other options, like number of inputs, screen size, border size, but most of all screen resolution and the included tuners.

I noticed that the Samsung doesn't have Coaxial Cable Inputs, so you won't be able to plug in a cable line directly (which means that you'll miss out on the free unscrambled digital channels and the "On Demand" channels that you neighbours are watching).

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#7 Large_Soda
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I was trying to find the "True" Contrast Ratio of the Samsung TV but was unable to find. You'll notice on the Toshiba listing it has the "Dynamic" CR at 10,000:1 and "True" at 2000:1, but Samsung is not mentioned, even on the official site. I would try and find out which one has the highest true ratio and then go from there, and I am guessing the Samsung is higher.

The Dynamic CR are just there to appear higher to consumers, but I have read a fair amount of reviews on TVs and most have sided with turning that function of (that is what the DNIe is on the Samsung) as it is a digital "filter" to create something that is not there.

The LCD industry has been "hyping" dynamic as it sounds larger when being compared to plasma TVs with 100,000:1 ratios. Plasma also puts there response time on many bullet lists at 0.1 ms to rival what LCDs display. It's just for competition.
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#8 firebreathing
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contrast ratio measures the difference between pure white and pure black which is very important.

unfortunetly every vendor uses a different measurement system to measure, there is not one unified measurement

theoretically a vendor could have a contrast ratio of 10 to 1, that is better than one with a 100,000 to 1 ratio.

IcemanLBC

which pretty much they just pull numbers out otheir asses ot impress you. most of the time, i say most because I have seen websites which post the actual and dynamic (fake) contrast ratios, you'll see a tv with something like 7,000:1 when it's only really 700:1. If you're that worried about contrast ratio then get a plasma, they have much better color reproduction than lcds, last just as long, aren't prone to burn-in and lots of other fun things. Only bad thing really, is that you usually don't see them in sizes smaller than 50"

The only way that you can really compare contrast ratios is by looking at different screens from the same manufacturer. If you see that a manufacturer has 2 different models, a 30,000:1 model and a 40,000:1 model; then the 30,000:1 model is clearly the lower end model. But, if a manufacturer has 10,000:1 and 20,000:1 model, then clearly the 20,000:1 is the high end model. But you still don't know if the 20,000:1 model is better or worse then the 30,000:1 model, since they're from different manufacturers. So, as the above poster said it pretty hard to compare between different manufacturers. I'd just look at other options, like number of inputs, screen size, border size, but most of all screen resolution and the included tuners.

I noticed that the Samsung doesn't have Coaxial Cable Inputs, so you won't be able to plug in a cable line directly (which means that you'll miss out on the free unscrambled digital channels and the "On Demand" channels that you neighbours are watching).

Profex13

my samsung lcd has coxial cable input, maybe it;s just that model.............

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#9 the1stmoonfly
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Just to put things into perspective, the latest panasonic plasma screens have a dynamic CR of 1,000,000:1. The one I currently own has a true CR of 10,000:1 and it looks fantastic.
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#10 r34dawn
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I am also trying to find out which one would be the best as far as black level goes, I thought the higher the number the worst. for example, if you compare 2 identical CRT's one that has .028 dot pitch which means that the grill aperture is of .028, to a CRT that has .026 dot pitch you get a far better picture from the .026 by having more pixels of the same color closer together with more black level as well. I still looking into this because it's new and there could be a lot of things that may affect the way things look. I am not saying 10000:1 is better than 40000:1 I am asking due to prices on different brands and models available since almost every one with the 10000:1 is costlier than those with the 20000:1 and greater.
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#11 dontshackzmii
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plasma is better 2,000,000 to 1 is better then any lcd

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#12 rastan
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I also prefer plasma, but the 1,000,000 to 1 is as bogus as 30,000:1. 10,000:1 true native contrast will provide a good picture. One of the best TV's in the market, Pioneer Kuros, has over 30,000:1 native contrast ratio and may have the deepest blacks of all flat panel televisions.
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#13 GTR12
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Yea bestbuy is advertising with the wrong information, again.

http://www.samsung.com/ca/consumer/detail/spec.do?group=tv&type=tv&subtype=lcd&model_cd=LN40A530P1FXZC&fullspec=F

20,000:1 and there not the new samsung the new ones have the T before the model name. So which do you guys recomend?

shamimsaad03

The new samsung models are actually the "U" series, its got a "U" before them, take a look at the brand new LED's samsung are making, they are all "Uxxxxxxxx"