RTX 2080 and 2080ti independent review

disappointing really. will have to wait for games with RT enabled to see how these cards perform then. here is review from techpowerup

@urbangamez: From a few Tech Youtubers & Tech Reviewers I seen so far, RTX is simply not worth it at this moment in time unless you have the money for the best, then this is for you! No real value of performance per dollar, but heck, in 4K is impressive. Again, too much money for the performance jump but that's just my opinion of course. The past jump we had from the 900 to the 1000 series was a one time only jump but now, Nvidia does not have any competition. Hopefully 7nm will give Nvidia a run for their money. (Wishful thinking)

I don't personally see the need to upgrade from my GTX 1080Ti right now. The min fps of the 2080Ti is the max fps my 1080Ti pulls which is already well above 60fps on the highest preset in most games on my monitor resolution. (1440p/60fps) It'll just be complete overkill for me and I've been upgrading to each generation of Nvidia cards since the 500 series but this will be the first time I'm skipping this generation.

I had a GTX 560, 680, 780Ti, 970, 1070 and 1080Ti as of now. (If a game like Cyberpunk 2077 pushes 1080Ti to it's limits, then it'll be different)

I think going from a 1080 to a 2080 is a good performance improvement. Are the prices good? No. But I payed 700 for my FE 1080 over 2 years ago so a 100 dollars more than that for more performance is not that big of a deal for me. But again I do understand why people will be disappointed especially those with a 1080ti. I game at 1440p 165hz with no intention of going 4K anytime soon.

I'm still using a 980, so this card is definitely worth it for me. Especially if I go ahead with my plan to get into 4K ultrawide monitors.

They are using the founders edition of these cards for testing right? So, that makes the performance gains even worse when compared to the 1080 Ti. 2080, 2080 Ti FE cards are OC and last gen they were not. So, the benchmarks are inflated and not apples to apples.

Nvidia had to make a flop eventually, although their sheep will buy their stuff anyway. Probably why it got 9.1/10, lol.

Yup, every review is testing the founders edition.

Which is even more expensive than the already crazy expensive base versions.

Some seriously disappointing performance for the buck.

Definitely go for that ultrawide, you won't regret buying one.

Though the highest resolution for most screens is 3440x1440, which is close to 4K but still lower resolution than full 4K.

Still, I'm using a 21:9 3440x1440 monitor as of late and I love it.

@R4gn4r0k: Yeah, the price is the deal breaker for me. If the 2080 Ti was priced reasonably at $800 USD, I would sell my 1080 Ti and buy one. However, I am not going to pay $1200 for a FE card. Even the $1000 reference cards will be over priced and have shit coolers. So, while I would love more performance, I am not interested in the Turing cards at those prices. I don't feel like getting ripped off.

@BassMan: Best thing to do now is wait for 7nm and see how it all turns out.

Definitely. The other thing is ray tracing is not even a factor for me. I really don't give a shit about it if it is just going to be a huge bottleneck to performance. I am not going to play games at 1080p when I am used to 1440p, ultra wide, 4K, and high frame rates. They need to make those RT cores a lot more powerful on their next gen RTX cards to get enthusiasts excited about it.

@BassMan: Yup, I'm in the same boat as you are, Bass. What I kind of wanted was a continuation of the GTX series focussing on power and a side line of RTX products for people that wanted the newest technology. What I wanted was a card offering way more power than a 1080ti so I could play all the latest games at acceptable settings, 1440p ultrawide and at 120fps. Because for me at the moment that's just the best thing there is.

I guess for now I'll stick to a 1080ti, lower my settings a bit, stick to playing some older games to check them out in increased resoltion and framerate and just sit this one out for the next generation.

This pretty much sums it up...

Watching reviews on youtube, it seems most partner card vesions of the 1080ti are as fast or faster than the 2080(non ti) in games.

What a bellyflop of a card series.

People who own 1080Ti have cash to spend (most likely) therefore upgrading to 2080Ti will be a must if they do game on 4K as expected.

It's funny how to show up the 2080Ti as 100% on 1080p resolution when the standard is 1060 actually that should be the 100%, I mean the 2080Ti is an overkill for that resolution.

I know it's for measuring % calculations only but still kinda funny.

I'm not spending over a 1000 euro for a graphics card. It seems like a few years ago a thousand euros was enough to buy you an entire PC that lasted 5 years.

These cards are crazy expensive, and don't deliver the performance jump we were used to from GTX generations. With AMD out of the game it seems like Nvidia will just ask any price that people are willing to pay.

@R4gn4r0k: That's the thing... how many people are willing to pay the price for a 2080 Ti? I have the money, but I refuse to pay that much for a card. Especially with small performance gain over a 1080 Ti.

The 1080 Ti was a large gain over a 980 Ti for not much more MSRP. 2080 Ti is a small gain over the 1080 Ti for a lot more MSRP. The bang is too little and they are asking for too many bucks. Hehe :)

It sure was, I was making 2x 290s / 2x 970s builds with i5.

And as you've said since AMD give no competition on the high-high end GPU market Nvidia is going to do whatever they want.

I saw some reviews today from third party 1080ti's going up against the factory 2080 FE... They were pretty much the same. The reviews saying the 2080 FE was better were using Nvidia provided 1080ti's

Only the 2080ti is clearly better and that one is crazy expensive.

Well I can't say I have, and all of the people I have made builds for haven't either. I know plenty of people with an 800-900 euro PC and they are good for years to come.

The 2080 and 2080ti are crazy expensive. Just because I bought a 1080ti, doesn't mean I'm crazy too.

400 is the most I had ever spent on a mid end graphics card before. I moved onto a more expensive card to power a high resolution and a high framerate, but the new prices are just in "no-go" zone. Just because I have the money doesn't mean I shouldn't look at price/performance; Because that has always been, and will always be my deciding factor.

(Same why I don't go and never will go for SLI, it's just not good price/performance wise)

@R4gn4r0k: yeah I know what you mean by the no go zone, top end GPU is at Titan price, one of the many reasons people gave up on buying Titan cards is because of their price compared to the performance they've gained from the high end Ti cards.

Back at the GTX900s and R9 200s gen SLI and Crossfire already was gaining signs that 2 cards isn't worth it compared to 1 high end card, you'd pay around 15% more money on the 980Ti to have the same performance of 970SLI while not having any SLI issues and produce much less heat and PSU consumption.

the 970sli configs also had drawbacks of low bandwidth when you wanted to game on higher resolutions

as for the power consumption, its actually not that big of a difference between sli 1070 vs 1080ti for example, then you take a look at overclock'd vega 64 which actually draws more power than sli 1080

Yeah those Titans for me where in the no-go zone. Way too expensive and if you waited a generation, you could get Titan level performance for around 400-600.

Basically there are two options for me:

Mid end cards: 970, 1070

High end cards: 1080, 2080

Buying a 1080ti for me was already pushing it. But at the time it was worth the price because I wanted to push my games for 3440x1440 and 120 fps. The results for that can be mindblowing when you can get flawless 120fps performance:

- Battlefield 3
- Destiny 2
- Crysis 2

Those are of course older games, apart from Destiny. For newer games I will settle with lowering my settings a bit, and I will hold out for newer, more powerfull cards.

@davillain-: agreed if you have a 1080Ti there is no need to upgrade at the moment. I would say the old cards looked great in this round because the new cards did not win by much in rasterized games, I was kinda hoping the new cards would win, in the case of the 2080 by at least 25% and the 2080TI by at least 50%. but its not over yet once hybrid RT enabled games and RT windows 10 update become available it is going to be very interesting to see the scores in a round 2 matchup.

as for the price of cards, given a trade war, the high cost of memory, a lack of competition from amd, the cost of new tech, low margins on hardware, I don't see it getting lower any time soon.

Both 2080 and Ti are really good if you game at higher resolutions. Anything above 2560*1440

I'm interested in the VR performance. Since i'm a backer of the Pimax 8k, the higher FOV is said that even the 1080ti struggles at times and I have the regular 1080. But I'm going to see how much it bothers me first.

I simply want a card that runs at acceptable settings and hits the 60fps cap on my screen :P