How is the read/write on your HDDs and SSDs?

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#1 Edited by Horgen (117397 posts) -

I randomly decided to test my discs again. I got 2 SSD and 2 HDD.

C, OS drive, is a Samsung 850 500GB one. D: Intel 330 120GB or so.

Now the HDD... The numbers are far worse. Seagate 3TB left and WD Black 1 TB right

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Anyone here with a M.2 PCIE based SSD?

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#2 Posted by Grey_Eyed_Elf (5728 posts) -

I have a SSD, SSHD and HD. The difference between SSHD and HD are very much worth the extra price as a storage drive for games. I am more than happy with my SSD performance which hasn't degraded over the 4 years I have had it. I am looking forward to building a new system with a M.2 drive with 1K read and write speeds.

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#3 Edited by Howmakewood (5034 posts) -

960 PRO m.2 @horgen

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#4 Posted by Horgen (117397 posts) -

@Grey_Eyed_Elf:You have had the 250GB SSD for 4 years now? I don't remember how long I've had my Samsung 850. Maybe two years. The intel one is from 2012. I wonder if write speed would be higher if I used less space on it.

@howmakewood:Damn... Kinda jealous. I recently bought a NAS, still waiting for it to arrive. Next up is a new SSD. Really want a M.2 based one.

However nVidia might launch their next gen GPU before that. Thinking about getting one of those at launch.

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#5 Posted by GTR12 (13015 posts) -

@horgen: I've got the same Intel or slightly older from 2012, write speed wont increase to be worth your time.

Mine is ~50% full, still use it as an OS drive, its about 1MB faster than your speeds.

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#6 Posted by Horgen (117397 posts) -

@GTR12 said:

@horgen: I've got the same Intel or slightly older from 2012, write speed wont increase to be worth your time.

Mine is ~50% full, still use it as an OS drive, its about 1MB faster than your speeds.

The 325 series? Or the 525 series?

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#7 Edited by PfizersaurusRex (1142 posts) -

I don't know WTF is going on, I can't finish this CrystalDiskMark test because I get BSOD while it's preparing random read test. It's on 256GB 850 Pro, 50% full and 5 TB written.

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#8 Posted by GTR12 (13015 posts) -

@horgen said:
@GTR12 said:

@horgen: I've got the same Intel or slightly older from 2012, write speed wont increase to be worth your time.

Mine is ~50% full, still use it as an OS drive, its about 1MB faster than your speeds.

The 325 series? Or the 525 series?

Neither, but I made a mistake, I thought it was the 320 Series, but its the 520 Series.

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#9 Posted by PredatorRules (12114 posts) -

Corsair Force LX - 500/150, WD Caviar Blue - 100-150/100-150

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#10 Posted by appariti0n (2340 posts) -

@howmakewood said:

960 PRO m.2 @horgen

What is the performance with RAPID mode turned off though?

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#11 Posted by Howmakewood (5034 posts) -

@appariti0n: nvme drives doesn't really support rapid mode, neither is it really needed for non-sata drives either

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#12 Posted by Horgen (117397 posts) -

@appariti0n: What is rapid mode?

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#13 Posted by appariti0n (2340 posts) -

@horgen: I guess it really only applies to SATA ssd's, but essentially it uses extra system ram as a cache for the SSD, drastically raising your perceived read/write performance.

If the system experiences an issue at the wrong time though, it can result in data loss, so I've stopped using it.

It's part of the Samsung Magician software suite.

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#14 Posted by Horgen (117397 posts) -

@appariti0n said:

@horgen: I guess it really only applies to SATA ssd's, but essentially it uses extra system ram as a cache for the SSD, drastically raising your perceived read/write performance.

If the system experiences an issue at the wrong time though, it can result in data loss, so I've stopped using it.

It's part of the Samsung Magician software suite.

Ah... Kinda pointless.

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#15 Posted by insane_metalist (7797 posts) -

Here are all my SDD/HDD's. My SSD is 3 and a half years old, my HDD's are 3 and a half - 4 years old except for 2TB Toshiba P300 which is few weeks old.

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#16 Posted by topgunmv (10754 posts) -

M.2 drives (top) are pretty great, also a 960 pro. Sequentials are a little lower than howmakewood's but the random read/write 4k's are higher, probably something to do with the firmware version.

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#17 Posted by Diddies (2077 posts) -

@howmakewood said:

@appariti0n: nvme drives doesn't really support rapid mode, neither is it really needed for non-sata drives either

I am confused by this. My 850 evos support rapid mode. However, my 960 evo doesn't allow you to turn rapid mode on. You can't turn on rapid mode on m.2.

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#18 Posted by Howmakewood (5034 posts) -

@Diddies said:
@howmakewood said:

@appariti0n: nvme drives doesn't really support rapid mode, neither is it really needed for non-sata drives either

I am confused by this. My 850 evos support rapid mode. However, my 960 evo doesn't allow you to turn rapid mode on. You can't turn on rapid mode on m.2.

Rapid Mode is to essentially pass Sata-limits, not needed when operating over pci-e lanes, it's pretty much only useful for benchmarking anyway and I would advice against it as there's a chance of lost data/corruption. If you want to know more about Rapid Mode this is pretty good: http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/downloads/document/Samsung_SSD_Rapid_Mode_Whitepaper_EN.pdf

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#19 Posted by Horgen (117397 posts) -

@insane_metalist: Your 3TB Seagate Barracuda is far better than mine.

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#20 Posted by insane_metalist (7797 posts) -
@horgen said:

@insane_metalist: Your 3TB Seagate Barracuda is far better than mine.

How old is your 3TB Barracuda and what do you use it for?
Mine is 3 and a half years old and gets used quiet a bit, I have all my Steam/Origin/Battle.net games on it. I game on daily basis so it gets used more than my other drives. I am surprised it performs better than my other drives. Even my few weeks old 2TB Toshiba P300 performs a little worse...

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#21 Edited by Horgen (117397 posts) -

@insane_metalist said:
@horgen said:

@insane_metalist: Your 3TB Seagate Barracuda is far better than mine.

How old is your 3TB Barracuda and what do you use it for?

Mine is 3 and a half years old and gets used quiet a bit, I have all my Steam/Origin/Battle.net games on it. I game on daily basis so it gets used more than my other drives. I am surprised it performs better than my other drives. Even my few weeks old 2TB Toshiba P300 performs a little worse...

Mine is a few years old as well. I have some games on it. I've spread my Steam library on all my 4 drives. uPlay and Origin is on the seagate drive. Though I rarely use those services.

I might be getting a case for it soon and use it as an external drive. Back up purposes.

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#22 Posted by Howmakewood (5034 posts) -

I have my old 2tb Barracuda in my node304 atm could bench it at some point for measure

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#23 Posted by Horgen (117397 posts) -

@howmakewood said:

I have my old 2tb Barracuda in my node304 atm could bench it at some point for measure

Kinda what I hoped people would do in this topic.

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#24 Posted by appariti0n (2340 posts) -

@horgen: Any SSD is sure light years better than what I used to do to improve boot/load times.

When the first western digital raptor 10K rpm drives came out, I bought two 36 GB ones, and striped them for a whopping 72GB of storage space. If i recall correctly, that gave me a sustained sequential read speed of maybe 150 MB/s if I was lucky lol. For the low low cost of $600.....

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#25 Posted by Horgen (117397 posts) -

@appariti0n said:

@horgen: Any SSD is sure light years better than what I used to do to improve boot/load times.

When the first western digital raptor 10K rpm drives came out, I bought two 36 GB ones, and striped them for a whopping 72GB of storage space. If i recall correctly, that gave me a sustained sequential read speed of maybe 150 MB/s if I was lucky lol. For the low low cost of $600.....

Yeah the old HDD are to slow.

I want to over the coming years, set up a NAS with raid 5 or 6 (I have to look up the differences on them first). Maybe with 4 or 5 drives I'll get a decent read speed at least :P

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#26 Edited by Howmakewood (5034 posts) -

So I tried running crystaldisk on my node setup and it jams the whole drive and only recovers after system boot, havent really used the drive for a while but gonna see if I can salvage it

edit: apparently can't write anything on the drive, reading works and trying to write anything on it jams it

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#27 Posted by appariti0n (2340 posts) -

@horgen: RAID 5 and 6 are the same, except 6 can tolerate an additional drive failure without data loss iirc.

6 is probably overkill for a home user. What are the odds of two drives failing simultaneously?

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#28 Posted by Grey_Eyed_Elf (5728 posts) -

@horgen: Yeah its been 4 years.. Come to think of it I think its coming to 5 years now, I remember getting it just after new years. Time fly's.

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#29 Posted by Horgen (117397 posts) -

@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

@horgen: Yeah its been 4 years.. Come to think of it I think its coming to 5 years now, I remember getting it just after new years. Time fly's.

I got the WD black shortly after I think.. took some time before I needed more.

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#30 Posted by Horgen (117397 posts) -

I benched my newly acquired NAS

Better than expected. It's a raid 1 set up and I think that shows on everything except sequential read and write which seems limit by the GBit Ethernet connection.