First rtx2070 review

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2018/10/14/msi_geforce_rtx_2070_gaming_z_performance_review/1

Seems they got their hands on to one and don't care about nvidia's NDA.

Seems a slight boost over 1080, nowhere close to 1080ti, so pretty much what was expected

i really want to see the performance of the cards in ray traced games because right now nothing about these reviews for the cards are encouraging, going from a 1080 to a 2070 is more like a side grade.

That's usually how it's been in the past, for example:

GTX 470 = GTX 560

GTX 570 = GTX 760

GTX 770 = GTX 960

The big jump actually came from the high end Maxwell where the 980 Ti stomped all over the 780Ti. Then again when Pascal high end 1080/1080Ti stomped all over the 980/980Ti cards.

Everyone had come to expect the 20xx to do the same and when it came down to a jump in performance as seen in the past (pre-Maxwell), everyone cried and cried and cried like someone just kicked the shit out of their dog.

Usually upgrading from a high end card from previous gens means you'd upgrade every other generation. If you ran a GTX 580 you didn't generally upgrade until the GTX 780 or maybe even 780Ti came out. Folks seem to have forgotten how things progressed before Maxwell and now cry like babies when the performance jump isn't high enough.

I'm not surprised by the performance increase from 10xx to 20xx. It's what I expected, though I hoped it would have been better.

1080=2070

1080Ti = 2080

2080Ti = 20% (give or take) over 1080Ti

Anyone using a 1080 or 1080Ti, there really isn't a reason to upgrade. The 1070, you're teetering on the point of possibly upgrade to a 2080 or 2080Ti, depending on your needs. Waiting out another generation to see what Nvidia can put out or possibly AMD, shouldn't be a surprise to current 1080/1080Ti owners.

Thing is up to 15% quicker from what I'm seeing. Bet if you overclock the hell out of these, they're just as quick as a stock 1080Ti in some games. I'd say that's a good value and you get RTX in the future. I look at Nvidia site and it's price at $600. I'd expect prices to be higher than MSRP for the first couple months, that's common for GPUs. They'll likely stabilize early next year though.

Nvidia's price is for the founders edition, not reference board. But as always seen only time tell the actual retailer prices, remember Vega launch? They sold like a shipment of 1000 cards for the msrp, that's the last time I've seen Vega for msrp pricing here, usually they go for 70€ or so over 1080

2070 being a bit faster than previous gen xx80 is nothing new, what's new is that it is not priced as previous xx070.

Yeah, the performance jump this gen is what to be expected really.

I would just buy a last gen 1080 over this. Raytracing performance will be shit. So, why pay the premium? A retail 1080 is cheaper and a used one even more so. None of the RTX cards warrant the price.