AMD Navi RX 3000 series are coming

AMD Navi RX 3080, 3070 & 3060 Specs & Prices Leaked – RTX 2070, GTX 1070 & GTX 1060 Challengers at $249, $199 & $129

Don't know about you guys but if temps will be as good as Nvidia cards I'm getting myself a brand new 3080.

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-navi-would-see-three-video-card-models249-rx-3080-close-to-rtx-2070.html

https://wccftech.com/amd-rx-3080-3070-3060-navi-gpu-specs-prices-leaked-rtx-2070-gtx-1070-gtx-1060-challengers-at-249-199-129/

So.... where are the high end GPUs? If RX 3080 is the best they have right now, that is only slightly better than a GTX 1080.... a card that came out 2.5 years ago.

@BassMan: I'm fine with that, not going to replace 1080p gaming anytime soon anyway.

Most gamers buy mid - high range cards anyway and not top high end cards.

Also any competition are welcome, 2070 did replace the 1080 or the 1080Ti but the price have stayed the same, back then when there was competition Nvidia didn't allow to do such things, they were upgrading older series with newer series for the same price with a performance boost.

@PredatorRules: Competition in the high end would certainly be welcome. Nvidia pricing is out of control.

Yes the 2080ti is stupid price ranging from lowest £989,99 to £1,699,99 average around £1,200. that is just stupid and hope nvidia suffers for this even though im a nvidia fan. £1,699,99 you can get a nearly top of range system alone. My system cost £1,500 2 years ago September just gone with a 1080gtx. Ok I would like ultra graphics 4k 60fps but not paying that price for a card for it.

Pretty much this. Over 90% of the market buys upper midrange or lower. Where 5 years into this generation and game requirements/engines have gotten pretty stagnant. No real benefit in practicality and cost for AMD to target enthusiast products

Again with these Adored leaks... I've never been more skeptical of a leak than I have with this one

i'd prolly still choose the 2070

I think the bigger question is... How much power will these new cards draw?

They are, sales are down and their stock price has plummeted in the past month.

I remember the rumors about RX480 before it came out. The 150W GTX 980Ti killer for $200! I admit, I was hyped. XD

Isn't stock price back to were it was before the mining inflation?

These leaks are fake AF. If the 3080 has the power of 2070, the TDP of 1060, why would AMD be selling it for half the nvidia's price tag? Are they not a business, to they not need to make a profit, especially after all these years of losing money?

About time, but I wish they had higher end cards too. Nvidia and Intel are pricing the crap out of their products. If the leaks are true then that's great value.

From leaks, lower than Nvidia's rivals, if this is true the temps will be good as well and I'm buying one.

Remove the Ray Tracing from 2070 and I think the power consumption goes down quite significant.

New architecture - 7nm, could draw less power

Yeah, that will certainly help with the power draw.

Honestly expect nVidia to update their lineup with 7nm once they get it to work as well.

90% of PC gamers only buy the mid end cards.

1080, 1080ti, 2080, 2080ti: all of those are high end and enthousiast cards, that's not what the majority of PC gamers are buying.

That is fine, but I would still like to see competition at the high end like it used to be back in the day between Radeon and Geforce. I often wonder what the GPU market would be like today if AMD never bought ATI. AMD has clearly been more focused on the CPU side of the business for a while now and the GPU side has suffered as a result. It is going to be interesting to see how Intel balances the two when they start putting out their GPUs in 2020.

@PredatorRules: Sure it does, but look at 2070 vs 590 - both are 12nm, but 2070 is 2x faster at same TDP.

You can look at the same way about AMD's FX series, running like hot potatoes, more Ghz but less efficient architecture made them look really bad compared to Intel where i3 had the same performance as FX8320/50.

I'm not a fanboy of any brand, I just want the competition to exist - so that we gamers would enjoy lower prices and better performance. (Nvidia and Intel went too far with their prices IMO)

If AMD will be bringing what shown on those rumors, then Nvidia will have to lower prices a bit (30-70$) and sell their cards with game bundles to maintain a price competition, unless their GTX3000 series will be the counter for that Navi 3000 tech.

Right now it's bunch of rumors with no gaming performance proof, so I'd say it's just anticipation.

@PredatorRules: Ryzen is the only hope we have right now that the rumors might be somewhat true, as the leaked specs of the first gen Ryzen CPUs seems too good to be true as well, but in the end they turned out to be great. But even if the TDP/performance is at the level of the "leaks", the price is still BS, why would AMD be selling a 2070 competitor ar half the price?

Really hoping those rumors are true. If they are I might swap my 1070 for a 3080. I've been wanting to make use of the freesync in my monitor for a long time. We need a Ryzen to happen in the gpu market and now that AMD has more money, hopefully they can pull it off.

Not sure it's going to be half price, maybe the rumors with that price tag are in to make some noise.

As far as I know from ATI the prices will be 2/3 of Nvidia which is fair enough.

Because they will be using 7nm...... The RTX 2070 die size is 445mm2 at 12nm while a comparable gpu with normal rendering methods from AMD is the VEGA 64(once tweaked) which is 487mm2 at 14nm. Going to 7nm will shrink a gpu with same transistor count to around 250mm2 , which is just roughly only 50mm2 bigger than GTX 1060 gpu die. One of the reasons why The RTX prices are outrageous is because the price for amount of silicon needed for the die and and GDDR6 vs Pascal, they want keep the profit ratio as high as long as they can.

Little late to the party here, but I don't frequent the forums like I used to:

What's wrong with that? My 980Ti still gives me all the necessary performance that I need and it's been 3.5 years since I got it. It can max any game that I own on 1080p and handles a lot of the games I play at 5760x1080 at a very reasonable level of performance. That's from a card that's 3.5 years old.

GTX 1080 gets around 25% better performance of my 980Ti. Even if AMD's newest card only maybe gets you the performance of a 1080 or slightly better, that's still one hell of a card for 1080p or 1440p gaming.

I'd be content with a card like that if it was only around $250-300. Better performance over my 980Ti (which cost $650) and same or better performance of a 1080 (which ran $600+ at release) - it's a no brainer.

We wait and see what AMD truly has to offer and where these cards actually fall with their performance.

@neatfeatguy: Sure, GTX 980 Ti is still a good card, but the thing is... cards lose their value over time as they are replaced by newer models that offer similar performance for cheaper. GTX 980 Ti was replaced by a GTX 1070 for cheaper. AMD is not doing anything new here. They are not pushing performance. I would be pretty pissed off if I had a high end FreeSync monitor and there were no GPUs from AMD that were capable of delivering the necessary performance.

I agree with this post. Where so far into this generation that I wouldn't mind AMD solidifying the midtier bracket versus trying to get in an enthusiast pissing match with Nvidia.

Game engines/requirements have been stagnant the last 2-3 years and almost everyone games at only 1080 or 1440p. 1060 to 1080 performance priced $160-$350 is 100% what AMD should target if they want to be competitive financially. Pissing match with enthusiast products isn't what AMD should be spending money on this late into the generation, especially since they haven't exactly been financially secure the last 5 years.

If RX3000 will sell good I'm sure they'll have enough money to release a top tier RX4000 series

@04dcarraher: if you have read around, the 7nm isn't exactly 7nm in practice, ~300mm2 is more reasonable

@PfizersaurusRex: yeah, no doubt ir was a good card but the mining craze took a huge bite out of the card for gamers. Too many idiots snapping up the card to mine bit coins and making it almost impossible to find one in the first year. If you could get one, you were guaranteed paying $100 over msrp

@rmpumper: guaranteed that AMD paid for that article