TL;DR: Since people seem to only be reading the first few sentences I'll summarize. What part does the "people are born gay" argument play in discussing the acceptance of homosexuality?
OT has had plenty of threads about homosexuality lately, and reading them got me wondering...
A lot of people still seem to refuse to accept homosexuality and gay rights...your God hates them, you hate them, they're unnatural, etc. I'm surprised that this is still a thing but whatever, I'm not going to argue. I don't agree but I understand where you come from. As long as you're not openly hostile to gay people I don't care.
Then you have also quite a few people who are on the "Love whoever you want, it's none of my business" boat (me included). In my opinion, this group is also self-explanatory.
But the group that confuses me is the "Being gay is ok...They can't help it, they're born that way"...I don't get this...it sounds like they're saying "I know my kid hit your kid but he has a mental disability, so he doesn't know any better" like somehow being born gay means they are still doing something wrong but it's out of their control. Is being gay ok because they just can't do relationships properly?
So my question is: Who cares if people are born gay or not? Why is this such a point in deciding whether being gay "is ok"? So if you're born gay it's fine but if you somehow choose it, then it's not? To me, defending gay rights by saying "they're born that way" is no help at all. If it's ok for a man to love a man or a woman to love a woman, then it's ok whether it's a choice or not. If I were bisexual and chose to spend my life with a man it would be wrong because I could have chosen to do it "the right way"?
I think the "being born gay" should be scratched out of the discussion. To me people have the right to be who they want to be and do whatever they want to do to whomever they want to do it to, as long as both parties (or all parties, I don't care =P) involved consent to it. You were born gay and you are in a happy same sex relationship? I'm glad you're happy. You could have gone either way and chose to be in a happy same sex relationship? I'm glad you're happy. Makes no difference if there was a choice or not.
What say you OT? Does it matter whether people are born gay?