Your opinion of strip clubs?

What do you think about local strip clubs? Do they have a place in the community, and do you support the laws mandating they be a certain distance from a school/church, ect.? I think they stimulate the economy and while they might not be the ideal career for women, they find a way to support themselves. What is your opinion?

Yeah, they have a place in the community. :D

No they should be done away with. Go to bars or watch TV, don't go to strip clubs.

Boring.

I'd rather watch porn. I've been to a strip club before, it's a waste of money. The girls don't really interact with you unless you got the money anyway.

Don't have a problem with them, as long as it's a clean and legal operation and everyone working there is doing it of their free will and well looked after.

That being said they're really not that fun so I don't see why people go to them.

Filthy. Don't care beyond that.

True. We should talk about legalizing prostitution instead.

Well, prostitution isn't against any federal laws (unless you count the UCMJ, which only applies to servicemembers), it just happens to be illegal in 49 states. If people want to hire hookers they should encourage their state lawmakers to follow Nevada's example.

Why should they be kept away from schools or churches? That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Children and underage highschool students can't even go in. It's not like there's strippers standing outside stripping.

There was a strip club I used to pass regularly as a child when out with my mom, the sign said it was a nightclub and I thought absolutely nothing of it. I didn't even realize it was actually a strip club until someone told me it was.

As for churches, why? Because the laws and morals of one religion should apply to everyone? Adults can choose not to go to strip clubs if it's against their religious or moral beliefs. I drive past a Denny's every day and don't go in because I know I'll find nothing but filth inside. Just because you can see it doesn't mean you have to patronize the establishment.


Regardless, I have no problem with strip clubs so long as everyone working there is of age and working there of their own free will.

As long as there is demand for it, there is a place for it in the community. I agree that it shouldn't be too close to a school. Don't really give a **** whether or not it's close to a church though.

yuck.

Legalised prostitution is overrated.

They should be banned. They have no place in civilized society. Only gutter trash would ever consider going there.

Away from schools because it's an "Adult" operation. Not only that, men who go there are probably horny as hell and that shit should be away from kids, especially teenagers. Grown men still look at teenage girls as if they were still in high school themselves and still hit on them. They should also stay away from churches for their own benefit. It's only going to lead to trouble because most if not all religions are against fornication. It also makes the churches and school area higher in quality. Strip clubs are looked down upon by the majority of the population so, it's only obvious that they should stay away from these kind of areas. That is why strip clubs are often found in cities or far from residential areas. No one wants to live next to a strip club.

So are liquor stores, smoke shops, bars, actual nightclubs, pole dancing studios (the exercise kind), sex shops, and a number of 'massage' parlors. But those are all over the place, nestled in between coffee shops and boutiques.

If grown men wanted to leer at teenage girls, having their strip club of choice be far away from a school probably isn't going to stop them. Some days I look about 16, and strange men make comments to me in parking lots and while I'm working. Simply being away from a strip joint doesn't mean men are any less piggy if that's who they are to begin with.

How is it going to 'lead to trouble' to have a strip club near a church because they're 'against fornication'? It's not as if the church lets out and everyone rushes over there, and then the church is going to have to have a big talk with all their members about how they're not allowed to go to the strip club and it's becoming an issue.

While yes, I agree it could bring property values down, the same can be said for having a funeral home on the same block. You must live in a city that has a high suburban population, because outside of suburbia, schools are situated in the middle of town for the kids who live nearby. There are lots of apartments and condos in almost any city center. People DO live nearby, not all schools are in suburban areas.

A new highrise of condos just went in across the street from the strip club in my city last year, and they're selling for 250k for a 1 bedroom, and people are buying them. It's not even in one of the nicer areas of town, either. And again, there are no strippers outside. If you're not out in the streets late at night you'd probably never even know it was there.


The entire point is, you buy or lease a location for YOUR business where you think it's best suited. It's none of your concern as a business owner what other businesses or establishments think or want. You're setting up your business in the best location to get maximum patronage, not setting up your business away from everyone who may not like it. You'd go bankrupt.


Besides all of that, churches and schools are like Starbucks, especially in a high-population and/or very diverse city. You can throw a rock from anywhere and hit one. Kind of hard to build anything anywhere when things you're 'supposed' to stay away from are everywhere.

Nothing against them albeit I have no interest in going to them.

Live and let be type deal here.

Nevada's example?

lol, so you're saying this will lead to men attacking teenage girls?

I've been to a few midwestern strip joints (OK and IL) when I was still single. Those corn-fed boobies looked more like college students to me.

I don't really care where their locations are within a town or city.

You would think so, but this is pretty far from reality, regardless of the type of business. Individual towns can have fairly complex zoning and permit laws and towns reserve the ability to grant and deny these permits based on, well, fairly arbitrary reasons.

I had helped a friend of mine set up a bakery in the town that he lived in. A small town. I could not secure approval from the town for the first location we settled on that was on Main Street of the town. We were told that the town is concerned about the amount of traffic in that road already and a daily goods business using trucks would slow down traffic further, unless the location had a dedicated loading parking. It would've likely required months to get something like that in order. In the end, my friend found a place off Main Street that used to be a liquor store. It had to be refitted with a kitchen which added around an extra $20,000 in costs.

It is, sadly, entirely up the town whether they will allow such an establishment. You are always "free" to set up your business somewhere else.

Prostitution is legal in some counties there.

Strip Clubs are cool to go to once or so but then its just a waste of money .

Yea but in your own words, why is it legal there?

Being away from a strip joint may not make anyone less piggy but when teenage kids have to walk by it everyday, they are walking by a place where men specifically go to so they get a "load" off. Would you like walking by a bunch of horn dogs on a daily basis? Eventually the kids will start to feel unsafe and it would eventually become a problem. The school would most likely report what is going down and require police around the area every school day which could bring down business by a lot anyway.

As for the churches, assuming that they will not act against a strip club being around them is foolish. Religious people are probably the most persistent people we have in any country and will do everything they can to win. They would either protest, send a large sum of angry letters to the mayor or whoever has the power to shut the place down or may even take things into their own hands and ruin the property themselves by breaking the windows, doors, etc. Especially if the church has a large number of followers, they're no joke.

If the strip club was a late night only type of club, then it wouldn't be as much of a problem for students. If it is open during the day though, I definitely see it as a threat to students. Don't forget a lot of teens and young adults also go to church. How many times have you heard horny guys talking about how they want "a virgin from church". Not saying they will act on it, but it doesn't help giving them the ammo to go up to them and try to hit on them, especially after seeing a bunch of naked women just a second ago.

It is possible, yup but what I'm trying to say is that they will be pervy as **** to the girls. If you had a kid, would you like her walking by a bunch of perverted guys everyday? Excuse me, horny older men everyday.

I find strip clubs and strippers useless. Whats their purpose if you cant **** them?

Strip clubs suck, they're a waste of money and the women are ugly.

@Nengo_Flow: lol

@ad1x2: Nevada is like 99% desert, and then Vegas. It's pretty easy why prostitution is legal in certain areas in that state.

Hmm... seems like a waste of money.

Maybe if I'm drunk I'd enjoy it.

Nothing wrong with them, put them anywhere and everywhere. Prostitution should also be legal.

Strip Clubs are nice if you want to get out of the house and away from the wife and get a quick blowjob.

But you watch porn?

mmm strippers mmm

gaming center/strip club go...

Same as abortion, have it only if you choose

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fine if you can afford it

If it never gets past zoning, then the issue of consciously deciding whether to stay away from churches or schools is a moot point. The basis of the discussion is assuming that one CAN open or operate a strip club at a location that is near these things. CAN comes before SHOULD, if there is no can there is no moral discussion for should.

Then, though, you must consider, what is to happen when you build a strip club, it passes the zoning laws and is put in, and later on a school or church is built or opened nearby? Should the strip club move? I don't think so. Should the school or church move? I don't think so either.

You're basically throwing money away just so you can look at girls who behave like robots. You can't even touch, so that makes it more of a waste. Just go watch free porn.

some people do

I take it you visit often?

What's the going rate these days?

Sure you can.

Not really my cup of tea but if there's a market for it...

Hey! This is the Internet! Stop it with the level headed analysis and common sense opinions.

I don't know why strip clubs, in particular, should be certain distances from schools and churches. If you want to make the argument that all establishments selling alcohol should be a certain distance from schools, with which I agree, then I'm on board. Nothing goes on outside of a strip club that doesn't happen outside of any other business that serves alcohol, regardless of what is happening inside.

A requirement being a certain distance from a church is silly. Just because a church's congregation doesn't like something doesn't mean that something should not be near a church. I don't like churches, but I have no right, nor legal recourse, to keep churches away from my home (for example).

I personally don't care to patronize strip clubs. Why pay a bunch of skanky women to pretend they like you when there are terabytes of free porn on the internet?

Don't like strip clubs? Don't go to one.

pretty much this