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#51 warbmxjohn
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I understand rap perfectly, still sucks for the most part, only decent one is Immortal Technique:P Darth-Caedus
Jedi Mind Tricks is almost exactly the same as Immortal. I mean if you care. :)
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#52 robbedquick
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[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"][QUOTE="robbedquick"][QUOTE="flazzle"]

i don't understand Country either. Heck, I don't even understand the music I like. I just know if it sounds good, I want to listen to it more.

Maybe there is a country fan that can set everyone straight as well?

ive listened to a few. most seem to be about 9/11,soldiers, guns//

Dont speak on it if you don't know about it, I thought that was the point of this thread? I don't like hearing about bling, hoes, chains, rims, guns, and drugs but we both know there is more to rap than just that. Seriously if you listen to country and aren't scared your friends might crack jokes on you it's beyond easy to see why people like it. There is some great music to be heard in every genre.

i guess i dont understand.
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#53 warbmxjohn
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Well, there you have it. The more subgenres you're willing to subdivide something into, the better it gets.Funky_Llama
I was equally confused by the intent of what the OP was asserting :P
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#54 mattykovax
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[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]I understand rap perfectly, still sucks for the most part, only decent one is Immortal Technique:P warbmxjohn
Jedi Mind Tricks is almost exactly the same as Immortal. I mean if you care. :)

Yeah,but then you have to put up with Vinnie Paz. man that guy annoys me.

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#55 Darth-Caedus
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[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]I understand rap perfectly, still sucks for the most part, only decent one is Immortal Technique:P warbmxjohn
Jedi Mind Tricks is almost exactly the same as Immortal. I mean if you care. :)

Might check em out later:)
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#56 zmbi_gmr
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To educate many users here who dislike or hate on rap i have compiled a list of subgenres to illustrate the complexity of the genre and to show you there is more than what you jear on the radio. input is apreciated Acid rap Affiliate Rap Alternative hip hop Bounce music Christian hip hop Comedy hip hop Conscious hip hop Contemporary R&B** Country-rap Crunk Dirty rap and Pornocore Electro* Electro-hop* Emo-Rap Freestyle music Freestyle rap Funk carioca Gangsta rap Ghetto house Ghettotech* Grime* Hardcore hip hop Hip hop soul*** Hip house* Horrorcore Hyphy Instrumental hip hop Jazz rap Mafioso rap Merenhouse* Neo soul Nerdcore hip hop New jack swing Pop-rap** Political hip hop Ragga reggaton Rap rock Rapcore Rap metal Snap music Turntablism robbedquick

what a ridiculous topic. do you know how to use a comma?!? just wondering. the "you people" makes you sound prejudice. R U? most everyone realises there are multiple genres in rap. how ignorant are you?

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#57 mattykovax
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[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"][QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]I understand rap perfectly, still sucks for the most part, only decent one is Immortal Technique:P Darth-Caedus
Jedi Mind Tricks is almost exactly the same as Immortal. I mean if you care. :)

Might check em out later:)

Check out the Devilz Rejectz One of the rappers is Jus Alllah from jedi Mind tricks(the good one) and they use a lot of horror and satanic samples.

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De gustibus non est disputandum?
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#59 Darth-Caedus
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[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"][QUOTE="warbmxjohn"]Jedi Mind Tricks is almost exactly the same as Immortal. I mean if you care. :)mattykovax

Might check em out later:)

Check out the Devilz Rejectz One of the rappers is Jus Alllah from jedi Mind tricks(the good one) and they use a lot of horror and satanic samples.

Satanic samples in rap:o Sounds awesome:P
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rap sucks! but eminem is my favorite musician...he is not a normal rapper...he is an ARTIST...now tupac on the other hand is a RAPPER and that is horrible music

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#61 Napkin4TheFace
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[QUOTE="mattykovax"]

[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"] Might check em out later:) Darth-Caedus

Check out the Devilz Rejectz One of the rappers is Jus Alllah from jedi Mind tricks(the good one) and they use a lot of horror and satanic samples.

Satanic samples in rap:o Sounds awesome:P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcwuw2AKtsE :D
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#62 warbmxjohn
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[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"][QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]I understand rap perfectly, still sucks for the most part, only decent one is Immortal Technique:P Darth-Caedus
Jedi Mind Tricks is almost exactly the same as Immortal. I mean if you care. :)

Might check em out later:)

Cool.:)

Here is a good place to start if you wanna.

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#63 Locke562
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[QUOTE="Jaguar_Shade"][QUOTE="warbmxjohn"]

"You people" is never a good way to start a thread. :P

If anyone takes the time to sincerely try, its easy to see why people like any form of music.

AirGuitarist87

What do you mean, you people?

 What do YOU mean "You people"?

HUUUT!

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#64 sAndroid17
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rap sucks! but eminem is my favorite musician...he is not a normal rapper...he is an ARTIST...now tupac on the other hand is a RAPPER and that is horrible music

Napkin4TheFace
...right.., anyway. you still havnt changed my mind about rap TC... but now i know different 'types' of rap...:| thanks?
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#65 warbmxjohn
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rap sucks! but eminem is my favorite musician...he is not a normal rapper...he is an ARTIST...now tupac on the other hand is a RAPPER and that is horrible music

Napkin4TheFace
Eminem would most likely drop you if you said that to him. :| Seriously.
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#66 mattykovax
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[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"][QUOTE="mattykovax"]

Might check em out later:) Darth-Caedus
Check out the Devilz Rejectz One of the rappers is Jus Alllah from jedi Mind tricks(the good one) and they use a lot of horror and satanic samples.

Satanic samples in rap:o Sounds awesome:P

Also if you want to hear good rap that is by someone who is actually into satanism and ritual magic check out the album The art of dying by Goretex.
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#67 Darth-Caedus
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[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"][QUOTE="warbmxjohn"]Jedi Mind Tricks is almost exactly the same as Immortal. I mean if you care. :)warbmxjohn

Might check em out later:)

Cool.:)

Here is a good place to start if you wanna.

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Hmm, not bad :)
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#68 Napkin4TheFace
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[QUOTE="Napkin4TheFace"]

rap sucks! but eminem is my favorite musician...he is not a normal rapper...he is an ARTIST...now tupac on the other hand is a RAPPER and that is horrible music

warbmxjohn

Eminem would most likely drop you if you said that to him. :| Seriously.

alright, lemme rephrase that haha...he is rapper...i'm don't like all these one hit singles and rap about money and cars and stuff like that...eminem raps about his life...he is like the only one that does that...by saying that i mean i only like his rap style cuz he is different

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#69 mattykovax
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[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"][QUOTE="mattykovax"]Check out the Devilz Rejectz One of the rappers is Jus Alllah from jedi Mind tricks(the good one) and they use a lot of horror and satanic samples.

Napkin4TheFace

Satanic samples in rap:o Sounds awesome:P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcwuw2AKtsE :D

Im talking about the real stuff,not marshall and his wild fantasys.

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#70 Napkin4TheFace
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[QUOTE="Napkin4TheFace"][QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"] Satanic samples in rap:o Sounds awesome:P mattykovax

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcwuw2AKtsE :D

Im talking about the real stuff,not marshall and his wild fantasys.

lmfao marshall...well, just saying haha
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#71 mattykovax
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[QUOTE="Napkin4TheFace"][QUOTE="warbmxjohn"][QUOTE="Napkin4TheFace"]

rap sucks! but eminem is my favorite musician...he is not a normal rapper...he is an ARTIST...now tupac on the other hand is a RAPPER and that is horrible music

Eminem would most likely drop you if you said that to him. :| Seriously.

alright, lemme rephrase that haha...he is rapper...i'm don't like all these one hit singles and rap about money and cars and stuff like that...eminem raps about his life...he is like the only one that does that.

No,no he is not. Have you ever heard of guys like Crayz walls or aseop rock just to start with.
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#72 Napkin4TheFace
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[QUOTE="Napkin4TheFace"][QUOTE="warbmxjohn"]Eminem would most likely drop you if you said that to him. :| Seriously.mattykovax
alright, lemme rephrase that haha...he is rapper...i'm don't like all these one hit singles and rap about money and cars and stuff like that...eminem raps about his life...he is like the only one that does that.

No,no he is not. Have you ever heard of guys like Crayz walls or aseop rock just to start with.

no, so they must suck?
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#73 mattykovax
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[QUOTE="mattykovax"][QUOTE="Napkin4TheFace"] alright, lemme rephrase that haha...he is rapper...i'm don't like all these one hit singles and rap about money and cars and stuff like that...eminem raps about his life...he is like the only one that does that.Napkin4TheFace
No,no he is not. Have you ever heard of guys like Crayz walls or aseop rock just to start with.

no, so they must suck?

Not at all. they just are not mainstream. Most good rap is not mainstream.
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#74 playstationboy7
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we dont

all we know is rap isnt as good as it used to be

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#75 Napkin4TheFace
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[QUOTE="Napkin4TheFace"][QUOTE="mattykovax"]No,no he is not. Have you ever heard of guys like Crayz walls or aseop rock just to start with.mattykovax
no, so they must suck?

Not at all. they just are not mainstream. Most good rap is not mainstream.

can you link me some?
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[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"][QUOTE="mattykovax"]Check out the Devilz Rejectz One of the rappers is Jus Alllah from jedi Mind tricks(the good one) and they use a lot of horror and satanic samples.

mattykovax

Satanic samples in rap:o Sounds awesome:P

Also if you want to hear good rap that is by someone who is actually into satanism and ritual magic check out the album The art of dying by Goretex.

You do realize that I don't think that Satanism automaticly makes music good right?:P But I will check it out later

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#77 warbmxjohn
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[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"][QUOTE="Napkin4TheFace"]

rap sucks! but eminem is my favorite musician...he is not a normal rapper...he is an ARTIST...now tupac on the other hand is a RAPPER and that is horrible music

Napkin4TheFace

Eminem would most likely drop you if you said that to him. :| Seriously.

alright, lemme rephrase that haha...he is rapper...i'm don't like all these one hit singles and rap about money and cars and stuff like that...eminem raps about his life...he is like the only one that does that...by saying that i mean i only like his rap style cuz he is different

Ok, you have never listened to Tupac. :|

Here is one example that shatters your arguement.

Another.

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#78 Napkin4TheFace
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[QUOTE="Napkin4TheFace"]

[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"]Eminem would most likely drop you if you said that to him. :| Seriously.warbmxjohn

alright, lemme rephrase that haha...he is rapper...i'm don't like all these one hit singles and rap about money and cars and stuff like that...eminem raps about his life...he is like the only one that does that...by saying that i mean i only like his rap style cuz he is different

Ok, you have never listened to Tupac. :|

Here is one example that shatters your arguement.

Another.

nothing is gonna change my mind...i don't like tupac
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#79 warbmxjohn
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[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"]

[QUOTE="Napkin4TheFace"] alright, lemme rephrase that haha...he is rapper...i'm don't like all these one hit singles and rap about money and cars and stuff like that...eminem raps about his life...he is like the only one that does that...by saying that i mean i only like his rap style cuz he is different

Napkin4TheFace

Ok, you have never listened to Tupac. :|

Here is one example that shatters your arguement.

Another.

nothing is gonna change my mind...i don't like tupac

I never said you had to like him, but your logic for not liking him is flawed, and is a testament to your lack of knowledge concerning this specific matter.
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#80 mattykovax
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[QUOTE="mattykovax"][QUOTE="Napkin4TheFace"] no, so they must suck?Napkin4TheFace
Not at all. they just are not mainstream. Most good rap is not mainstream.

can you link me some?

This is my favorite song by him,"daylight" off the album Labor days and this is the other version called "nightlight".

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#81 Napkin4TheFace
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alright, you got me, but i also said eminem is the only rapper i like cuz of his styl..tupac clearly has not the same styl as eminem...i just don't like rap at all but i am a huge fan of eminem...so yeah.

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#82 mattykovax
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[QUOTE="mattykovax"][QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"] Satanic samples in rap:o Sounds awesome:P Darth-Caedus

Also if you want to hear good rap that is by someone who is actually into satanism and ritual magic check out the album The art of dying by Goretex.

You do realize that I don't think that Satanism automaticly makes music good right?:P But I will check it out later

I know. I just thought you might enjoy hearing a rapper that has more of a metal mentality. In fact I think Goretex only really listens to metal.
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#83 Napkin4TheFace
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[QUOTE="Napkin4TheFace"][QUOTE="mattykovax"]Not at all. they just are not mainstream. Most good rap is not mainstream.mattykovax

can you link me some?

This is my favorite song by him,"daylight" off the album Labor days and this is the other version called "nightlight".

thanks :D pretty good...i may like another rap artist :P
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#84 Darth-Caedus
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[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]

[QUOTE="mattykovax"]Also if you want to hear good rap that is by someone who is actually into satanism and ritual magic check out the album The art of dying by Goretex.mattykovax

You do realize that I don't think that Satanism automaticly makes music good right?:P But I will check it out later

I know. I just thought you might enjoy hearing a rapper that has more of a metal mentality. In fact I think Goretex only really listens to metal.

You would be right there:P He is pretty good:o
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#85 xobballox
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rap sucks! but eminem is my favorite musician...he is not a normal rapper...he is an ARTIST...now tupac on the other hand is a RAPPER and that is horrible music

Napkin4TheFace
You must have not heard much of Tupac's music... Listen to Broken Wings, Dear Mama, Keep Ya Head up II, Changes, God Bless The Dead, Keep Ya Head Up, The Good Die Young, Still I Rise, and that's only a few of his great songs. But yes, Eminem has some amazing songs, and he's one of my favorite rappers; I do hate his stuff talking about murdering women though.
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#86 TecmoGirl
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It's usually all going to come down to the same reasons over and over in the long run--

1. Mainstream raps suck. Underground is better. Every song should have deep meaning to it otherwise it's not real music.

2. Eminem, Tupac, and/or Biggie are the only good rappers and everything else sucks!

3. All they rap about is money, cars, women and bling! Every other artist in the world never speaks on the same subject ever! Also real artist use instruments.

4. The random "Hey guys you know what rap stands for? "Retards Attemping Poetry" how awesomely original am I.

5. An obvious opportunity for undercover racist people to throw subliminal insults towards a genre and a community of people who love it, because it's black dominated in interest.

I don't think it's really that anyone doesn't understand--most people here just don't like rap music. Some don't due to a matter of taste, some reasons due to people generally being music elitist towards anything with mainstream exposure, and some for reasons they will never be honest about. Im sure most people could search and tell it has variety in lyrics and sound just as any other genre if they actually looked more into it. The fact that there's old school and new school gives any genre of music variety to me.

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#87 Shiggums
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YOU people?! What's that supposed to mean, huh?

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#88 warbmxjohn
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YOU people?! What's that supposed to mean, huh?

Shiggums
You missed that bus by 5 pages.. :P
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#89 Shiggums
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YOU people?! What's that supposed to mean, huh?

warbmxjohn

You missed that bus by 5 pages.. :P

Aww....:(

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[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"][QUOTE="Napkin4TheFace"]

rap sucks! but eminem is my favorite musician...he is not a normal rapper...he is an ARTIST...now tupac on the other hand is a RAPPER and that is horrible music

Napkin4TheFace

Eminem would most likely drop you if you said that to him. :| Seriously.

alright, lemme rephrase that haha...he is rapper...i'm don't like all these one hit singles and rap about money and cars and stuff like that...eminem raps about his life...he is like the only one that does that...by saying that i mean i only like his rap style cuz he is different

theres more rappers who rap about their life: 2pac, ice cube's "today was a good day" and biggies "juicy" theres more songs but thats all i can come up with right now. i want you to search them up on youtube..
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Actually, I like some rap now (After being around with my friend who is Puerto Rican almost everyday, and all the W*ggers in my grade).

I still hate metal though.

P.S. W*ggers is a bad word apparently according to Gamespot.

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What's hannenin?

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[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"][QUOTE="Napkin4TheFace"]

rap sucks! but eminem is my favorite musician...he is not a normal rapper...he is an ARTIST...now tupac on the other hand is a RAPPER and that is horrible music

Napkin4TheFace

Eminem would most likely drop you if you said that to him. :| Seriously.

alright, lemme rephrase that haha...he is rapper...i'm don't like all these one hit singles and rap about money and cars and stuff like that...eminem raps about his life...he is like the only one that does that...by saying that i mean i only like his rap style cuz he is different

Ass like thatJust lose itMy Band Eminem has made some TERRIBLE songs.
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#94 McJugga
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It's all about ho's, money, guns, the n-word and what not. I think I understand it just fine.

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#95 Nifty_Shark
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Eminem has made some TERRIBLE songs.II-FBIsniper-II

ass Like that sucks but the other ones are OK. I think the problem with all 3 of those is that they can come off as annoying.

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#96 MgamerBD
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You just started another war that hip hop lovers of OT have been fighting for since the beginning of time...
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#97 mattykovax
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You just started another war that hip hop lovers of OT have been fighting for since the beginning of time...MgamerBD
Yes,I must say QFT. I think the second thread I ever posted in was one of these back in 2004.
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#98 Jaks_Secret
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While we're on the subject of lots of mainstream rap being about cars and wealth in general, was I the only one that noticed that the artist who made "We Fly High (Ballin')", a song about being fabulously wealthy, was the first song the artist ever made? How do you reap the riches of your career when it hasn't started yet?
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#99 Toriko42
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I didn't used to understand rap, I thought it was silly jarring beats and stupid incomprehensible words. Now I love it though and it is easily my favorite broad genre of music.
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#100 taj7575
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You just started another war that hip hop lovers of OT have been fighting for since the beginning of time...MgamerBD

Lol, it's just not gonna happen in ot.. :P