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No.
that would only leave the criminals and such with guns, while normal people and law inforcement would have no guns to defend themselves.
bans dont magically get rid of all guns, they just make them illegal for people to have. which means nothing to criminals/gangs as they get guns regardless of legality.
an all out gun ban, is not the answer.
Absolutely not. If people are determined, they will get their hands on a weapon. A ban on guns won`t change that, it`s the individual we should be focusing on.
I wouldn't support it, but I wouldn't fight against it.
Honestly though, I like shooting guns, but I understand the need for exhaustive measures against them. Simply forcing more checks to make sure someone is allowed to use a gun, giving a fine to people who don't safely lock away their weapons, and limiting the types of weapons and magazines out there so people can't arm themselves for war would be enough, but if people with mental illnesses can be properly treated and guns more properly checked on then we wouldn't even have to go that far to curb some crime and shootings.
Australia did that and their rape and overall crime rate skyrocketed; look at Mexico too.No. Doesn't solve anything and people can still get them by illegal means. Then guess what? They can go stick up nearly anyone because 9 times out of 10, the victim won't be armed...
tocool340
[QUOTE="tocool340"]Australia did that and their rape and overall crime rate skyrocketed; look at Mexico too.No. Doesn't solve anything and people can still get them by illegal means. Then guess what? They can go stick up nearly anyone because 9 times out of 10, the victim won't be armed...
Fightingfan
Ugh most people here in Australia would agree that the Howard Governments quick and swiftful movement of gun control was an excellent decision. We have not had a mass shooting since, also i would like to see some proof that because of a gun control crime rates and rape have gone up? Even if true i very much doubt it's because of our severe gun control.
Honestly most/rest of the first world find Americas reluctency on gun control is ridiculous, in fact pretty unfamothable.
I support a ban entirely, however i am not an American.
Australia did that and their rape and overall crime rate skyrocketed; look at Mexico too.[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="tocool340"]
No. Doesn't solve anything and people can still get them by illegal means. Then guess what? They can go stick up nearly anyone because 9 times out of 10, the victim won't be armed...
walkingdream
Ugh most people here in Australia would agree that the Howard Governments quick and swiftful movement of gun control was an excellent decision. We have not had a mass shooting since, also i would like to see some proof that because of a gun control crime rates and rape have gone up? Even if true i very much doubt it's because of our severe gun control.
Honestly most/rest of the first world find Americas reluctency on gun control is ridiculous, in fact pretty unfamothable.
I support a ban entirely, however i am not an American.
A complete ban would mean only police and criminals have guns.
No, not by any means. In fact, gun regulation should be virtually nonexistent.
God bless,
Crushmaster.
You speak for a huge body of people, many of which aren't very educated and have very little knowledge of the United States' culture. I'm going to say no. We should be looking at WHY people are using the guns rather than the guns themselves. Many of the recent issues have been matters of the failing healthcare and pharmaceutical industry.Honestly most/rest of the first world find Americas reluctency on gun control is ridiculous, in fact pretty unfamothable.
walkingdream
[QUOTE="walkingdream"]
[QUOTE="Fightingfan"] Australia did that and their rape and overall crime rate skyrocketed; look at Mexico too. Fightingfan
Ugh most people here in Australia would agree that the Howard Governments quick and swiftful movement of gun control was an excellent decision. We have not had a mass shooting since, also i would like to see some proof that because of a gun control crime rates and rape have gone up? Even if true i very much doubt it's because of our severe gun control.
Honestly most/rest of the first world find Americas reluctency on gun control is ridiculous, in fact pretty unfamothable.
I support a ban entirely, however i am not an American.
A complete ban would mean only police and criminals have guns.
ExactlyHow it is here in Australia pretty much.
[QUOTE="walkingdream"]You speak for a huge body of people, many of which aren't very educated and have very little knowledge of the United States' culture. I'm going to say no. We should be looking at WHY people are using the guns rather than the guns themselves. Many of the recent issues have been matters of the failing healthcare and pharmaceutical industry. I'm just discussing with people i have talked to on the issue, you must admit the gun/crime rate in America is huge...Honestly most/rest of the first world find Americas reluctency on gun control is ridiculous, in fact pretty unfamothable.
Saturos3091
EDIT: Also love reading this thread Americans:lol:
DEY TOOK OUR RIGHTS!! GUNS + GUNS = Less violence:roll:
Australia did that and their rape and overall crime rate skyrocketed; look at Mexico too. walkingdream
Ugh most people here in Australia would agree that the Howard Governments quick and swiftful movement of gun control was an excellent decision. We have not had a mass shooting since, also i would like to see some proof that because of a gun control crime rates and rape have gone up? Even if true i very much doubt it's because of our severe gun control.
Honestly most/rest of the first world find Americas reluctency on gun control is ridiculous, in fact pretty unfamothable.
I support a ban entirely, however i am not an American.
My thoughts exactly.
It would be easier to count countries with gun control than it is to think of ones without one even though they are not in war etc.
[QUOTE="walkingdream"]
[QUOTE="Fightingfan"] Australia did that and their rape and overall crime rate skyrocketed; look at Mexico too. Fightingfan
Ugh most people here in Australia would agree that the Howard Governments quick and swiftful movement of gun control was an excellent decision. We have not had a mass shooting since, also i would like to see some proof that because of a gun control crime rates and rape have gone up? Even if true i very much doubt it's because of our severe gun control.
Honestly most/rest of the first world find Americas reluctency on gun control is ridiculous, in fact pretty unfamothable.
I support a ban entirely, however i am not an American.
A complete ban would mean only police and criminals have guns.
Yeap thats how most of the world works funnily enough
Absolutely Not!!! To all the politicians good luck trying to pass that one. I read somewhere that America was one of the most armed nations around the planet. The stats said that their was 9 guns for every 10 U.S. citizens and they low balled thatfigure. I would cite my source but i cannot remember exactly where i read that at. Luckily i live in the South because the majority of the people down here are in an up-roar over recent developments and arguments over firearms. Get ready for a crap storm out of the south if this were to come to pass....
You speak for a huge body of people, many of which aren't very educated and have very little knowledge of the United States' culture. I'm going to say no. We should be looking at WHY people are using the guns rather than the guns themselves. Many of the recent issues have been matters of the failing healthcare and pharmaceutical industry. I'm just discussing with people i have talked to on the issue, you must admit the gun/crime rate in America is huge...[QUOTE="Saturos3091"][QUOTE="walkingdream"]
Honestly most/rest of the first world find Americas reluctency on gun control is ridiculous, in fact pretty unfamothable.
walkingdream
EDIT: Also love reading this thread Americans:lol:
DEY TOOK OUR RIGHTS!! GUNS + GUNS = Less violence:roll:
So instead let the corrupt Governments have the guns? Nice logic.. 2nd amendment was put in place to keep tyrants from coming to power. You aren't even American, yet you post in this thread. Why?Hell no!
I've never owned a gun and I dont plan on getting one, but I fully understand and respect the right to bare arms.
I'm surprised its such a big topic of discussion tbh and I'm surprised its been going on for so long. Banning guns leads to literally no pros and all cons. Its one of the few major debates that is completely black and white. I guess common sense is not so common.
No, not by any means. In fact, gun regulation should be virtually nonexistent.
God bless,
Crushmaster.Crushmaster
LOL
anyway, i think that the only guns people should be allowed to use are handguns with low-capacity magazines--you know, like the ones cops use.
ideally, i think all guns should be banned, but that's wishful thinking in the case of the usa. makes me grateful that i don't live there.
Nope. I like the citizens have the ability to keep the government in check....now if only more people would be informed of the issues and vote.LJS9502_basicyou can't be serious. A bunch of people with handguns are going to keep the government in check?
[QUOTE="rocinante_"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"]
No, not by any means. In fact, gun regulation should be virtually nonexistent.
God bless,
Crushmaster.thegerg
LOL
anyway, i think that the only guns people should be allowed to use are handguns with low-capacity magazines--you know, like the ones cops use.
ideally, i think all guns should be banned, but that's wishful thinking in the case of the usa. makes me grateful that i don't live there.
What about the other types of weapons that cops have (ARs, MP9s, handguns with other than low capacity magazines, shotguns, etc.)?nope, i was just referring to the standard pistols cops get.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Nope. I like the citizens have the ability to keep the government in check....now if only more people would be informed of the issues and vote.BossPersonyou can't be serious. A bunch of people with handguns are going to keep the government in check? Where did I say handguns only? Please enlighten me. Revolution was fought and won with guerrilla tactics. And that has been successful for many conflicts since.
[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Nope. I like the citizens have the ability to keep the government in check....now if only more people would be informed of the issues and vote.LJS9502_basicyou can't be serious. A bunch of people with handguns are going to keep the government in check? Where did I say handguns only? Please enlighten me. Revolution was fought and won with guerrilla tactics. And that has been successful for many conflicts since.fine, semi automatic weapons too. Until you can purchase a military helicopter, don't talk about "keeping the government in check"
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]you can't be serious. A bunch of people with handguns are going to keep the government in check?BossPersonWhere did I say handguns only? Please enlighten me. Revolution was fought and won with guerrilla tactics. And that has been successful for many conflicts since.fine, semi automatic weapons too. Until you can purchase a military helicopter, don't talk about "keeping the government in check" Because nothing can hit a helicopter....oh wait.
Really? A place with such a high violent crime rate?[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]
The UK is the ideal model for this sort of thing
Zaibach
Sauce please?
I was refering to gun crime,
I'll be waiting for that source btw?
Does it really matter if someone is killed with a knife or a gun? I mean dead is dead....lol wut? I'm pretty sure he didn't mean the police and the army.No.
that would only leave the criminals and such with guns, while normal people and law inforcement would have no guns to defend themselves.
bans dont magically get rid of all guns, they just make them illegal for people to have. which means nothing to criminals/gangs as they get guns regardless of legality.
an all out gun ban, is not the answer.
konvikt_17
You are missing the point here. Criminals/gangs don't start shooting people at the mall, school etc. for no reason. I'm sorry to say this but (looking also at the poll and from past topics) you Americans deserve what's happening nowadays in your country.
And what makes you think that having/carrying a gun can save your life if a lunatic pulls out a gun in front of you and starts shooting in a mall? Do you keep your finger on the trigger all the time or what? This isn't like in the wild west anymore.
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