Would you still eat meat if you had to slaughter the animal by yourself?

Yes. I wouldn't like it at first, but I'm not giving up chicken wings and cheese burgers.

I would.

Yeah, sure. It would get annoying after a while to take so long to prepare a meal but why not? I would probably try to find a faster way to kill pigs though...I never bled chicken, I always just cut the head straight off...that's one of the reasons I don't like the way my uncle (and I'm assuming most people) kills pigs...they do pretty much what they did to the chicken there but the pig sometimes takes forever to die and makes a lot of noise...I'd probably just brain it...I have nothing against killing animals (for food) but I don't like seeing them suffer.

Yes, because then I just killed the animal for nothing.

That depends, if I decide not to eat meat do I have to grow my own fruit and vegetables?

Already have

@toast_burner: "That depends, if I decide not to eat meat do I have to grow my own fruit and vegetables?"

Will you still eat your fruits and vegetables if your crops were stepped on?

No, because I've been considering going vegan for a long time now....seriously! I've been juicing for almost a year now and there have been days in a row that I haven't eaten meat.

Yeah. It would bother me A LOT at first considering I don't like the idea of going around butchering animals. But I'm sure I'll get over it. Or attempt to live off a strictly fruit diet...

it really is contradictory though, caring about how they suffer means you value their lives. because the concept of pain is merely applicable to a living.

No, that's too much work

^This~ I have cleaned and butchered Chickens, Deer, Elk, Pigs, etc..

I won't lie. It's not fun and kinda gross, but it's part of living out in the country i guess~

It wouldn't be my preferred profession but I'd do it. Chicken, pork, and seafood are staples to me.

Doesn't seem contradictory to me...just because I'm eating them doesn't mean I don't want them to spend the least amount of time dying. There's no benefit to it.

If I had to, absolutely. I've shot and field dressed deer before.

While we're just throwing conditions around that aren't in the topic's question, not only what you said, but also you have to run 10 miles before each meal and do 2 push-ups after each bite.

If you were trying to remove the influence of "effort" from your decision, your question should be "do I have to pick my fruits and vegetables?" and not "grow my fruits and vegetables"

It often puzzles me how some people trip over themselves to no end in an orgy of confusion while trying to comprehend a simple hypothetical question that carries a clear intent.

I wouldn't enjoy killing the animals but I would do it. I want my meat.

Well it seems rather unfair to add extra inconvenience to eating meat but not to eating vegetables. If I had to kill my own meat then I would cut back on meat, but if I had to go out and pick my own fruit then I'd cut back on fruit and eat more meat instead.

It's a dumb question because why would I kill the animal myself when I don't need to? There are tons of other things I enjoy but don't want to make myself.

If I had to kill my own food I would, but if I had to do my own surgery I also would. Fortunately we don't live in a world where you have to do everything yourself. Being grossed out by something doesn't mean it's bad, it just means you're not used to it. If I were raised on a farm or decide to look for a career in farming I would be used to it and would have no problem with it. As I am now I'm perfectly fine with having other people who know what they're doing to do that job for me.

This = 100 times. Still feel bad though.

ain't nobody keeping me away from bacon

I would probably waste less if did.

You could, for instance, intelligently neutralize the "effort" part in your head before making a simple yes / no answer.

Or you could, as you just did again, continue your orgy of confusion in your effort to comprehend a simple question while making excuses that the "question" is stupid.

But since your brain seems to have concluded the more likely intent of the question is "effort" rather than say "empathy", there isn't much to expect from your replies besides more cries about how "stupid" the question is.

So while this thread moves-on with many other intellectuals contributing just fine, here is a twist, just for you, so you won't feel left behind:.... The question intent is about.... "aliens"! ... now go wild in your thoughts & conclusions.

I would, and have. It might be because I've grown up on the countryside, but peoples reactions to killing animals for food is puzzeling to me. Ofcourse that nice steak was once a nice cow, and the pig was fairly cute as a piglet. But they were raised for consumption.

Why bother posting this at all if all you want is yes and no answers and no actual discussion?

No no, for you, just keep going. Your brain conclusions are entertaining.

Although it is true the "yes/no" answer restriction is for people with low comprehension, but your sea of confusion that you think is "actual discussion" is really entertaining. So keep going.

What makes you think I'm confused? I answered your question you're just annoyed it wasn't the answer you wanted.

I'm sure i would. It would take some getting used to, but most definitely. Especially if i have to feed a family. Animal rights peeps piss me off, especially those reporting when a dog is left in a car. They act like they care, but then turn around and eat a burger. Stupid. If you care about animals, then you should care about all, and not eat any.

I've killed, processed and packaged hog before, and yes I went home and ate some of said hog the next day. It's really not that difficult, nor is it really that disgusting. It just takes patience and practice to do well. It made me appreciate meat more though, knowing all the processes it takes to actually have a slice of bacon or some sausage.

Also, lol at youngturks.. "Cow genocide, it's horrific"... give me a break.

So you your brain concluded "That depends, if I decide not to eat meat do I have to grow my own fruit and vegetables?" is a definite answer. That's sweet. Keep going.

No my point as that the question you asked was stupid. It's clearly a loaded question to make eating meat seem bad.

I've been slaughtering my food since I was 5-ish. I don't see why it should bother me now.

Dude, stop being an asshat. Toast's question was a completely logical extension of your topic. Asking "would you eat meat if you had to kill the animal?" is kind of a pointless question unless the same rules apply to other foods as well. It would be like asking, "would you wear pants if you had to make them yourself?", but allowing people to buy shorts. Of course people are mostly going to buy shorts, but not because they don't like pants enough to make them, just that it's easier to buy shorts, so the question doesn't really answer anything.

You don't already do this?

I've never not had a garden in my backyard.

lol, did I just force your brain into submission and kicked it out of its "effort" based conclusions?

if so, then stay there, let's explore this new state of cognition you seem to have transitioned into.

With your new found comprehension skills, can you push your brain a little bit more and see what other reasonable intents the question might carry beside "making eating meat seem bad"?

Before I continue with you. You're also concluding the intent of the question is "effort"?

p.s. I'm giving you a chance to revise your conclusion. Your buddy Toast abandoned ship with that conclusion (read the post above this one).

I don't know what I would do "realistically" because I "realistically" have never had to do such a thing so I have no "realistic" precedent to refer back to. I'd like to think I could. I've fished before and ate the fish I caught (doesn't count), but fish aren't adorable, nor could I see myself ever caring about them. I've wanted to go hunting before (haven't yet) so I'm fairly certain if I see an animal as food, and nothing more, I wouldn't have a problem killing and dressing it, beyond the fact that I don't know how to do it right.

Also, did someone piss in your corn flakes this morning, you seem real irked that someone interpreted your question differently than you intended. Maybe the video makes it a lot more obvious what you're going for, but ain't nobody wanna watch a 9+ minute buzzfeed video.

My conclusion was that you're an ass-hat.

A sound conclusion based on his response so far.

Hell yeah.

I find it funny that we have all these people that oppose animal slaughter for meat consumption. Animals hunt other animals down and eat them. Humans are animals too, and we're at the top of the food chain. Heck, we're not even on the food chain anymore for the most part. Why is it wrong for humans (who are animals) to kill other animals for consumption?

aw! ur feelingz is hurt! as u resort to insults while running away!

:) one troll down.. next!

I don't think you know what a troll is...

Why did you make this topic? Just to be a dick to everyone who's ideas differed slightly from your own? You've never even given your opinion on the topic.

What made you think I abandoned that? For someone who continuously rambles about intelligence you're not too bright.

Has it ever occurred to you that sometimes something can have two points and not just one? Just because I said the main reason I made that argument was to point out the illogical nature of your question does not mean the argument itself holds no merit. Both parts are true and you are yet to provide any argument against either.

Why don't you be a good sport and say what the purpose of this thread is? So far it just seems to be so you can throw petty insults at anyone who doesn't agree with you.

No, I just don't have the stomach for that sort of thing.

I may be a heavy meat eater. But even cleaning and gutting a chicken would freak me out.

My man, I hunt and fish, with small game you literally spit the shots as you chew.

Your first paragraph was decent and generous enough with plenty of logic that satisfies answering the question.

As for your second paragraph, take it easy. I do feel bad that I was hard on him. Perhaps I had some free time and really wanted to experiment to see if those really left-field wrong interpretation replies (that plague not just my posts, but the most clearest of posts I usually come across on forums) are the product of real misunderstanding or just trolling.

So I picked on toast's post to follow through with my research. And though he seems to have conceded at the end that he actually did not believe the question was related to "effort" as he originally claimed to be, I now believe I should not have gone after him.

Not because he wasn't trolling, as evidently he actually was based on his concession that seems to have been driven by his believe that I was trying to somehow demonize meat eaters, but because I seem to have unintentionally dragged and upset other honest people that came to defend him with good heart. So for that I apologize to all and will leave him be.

Take it easy, I apologize, it seems I went really hard after (what I believe) is a troll that I turned into a troll / bully myself towards others that came to defend him in good heart.

The topic is as my description of it in the original post. To see whether or not we could overcome our desire for meat and empathize with animals if we see how they suffer for our consumption.

Sure. So long as it's poultry, oinkers, and fish. I've already slaughtered my food in those categories. I still haven't tried slaughtering beef or pooch.

No. I wouldn't be able to go through with it.

Yes.