Would you rather have a Communist (Extreme Left Wing) or Fascist (Extreme Right Wing) Leader?

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Poll Would you rather have a Communist (Extreme Left Wing) or Fascist (Extreme Right Wing) Leader? (25 votes)

I'd rather have a Communist Leader (Extreme Left) - Example [Hugo Chavez or Putin] 72%
I'd rather have a Fascist Leader (Extreme Right) - Example [Hitler or Mussolini] 24%

let's see what people will choose

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#1 Smashbrossive50
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I chose Independent.

it's interesting that you have to know of my Anti-Communism trait.

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#2  Edited By Barbariser
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In Malaysia? The Fascist would probably try to ethnically cleanse me, my family and friends. The Communist would only hurt us if it perceives us to be a threat to him. So I'd have far better chances of not being gassed/hung/disemboweled/shot/burned/hacked/gored/.etc with the far left guy.

Also, since when the **** was Putin a far left national leader. If you wanted someone as extreme as the two fascists you could have easily picked Mao and Stalin.

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#3 Smashbrossive50
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also OP most of your examples are HISTORICALLY WRONG!

Putin is not a commie,he is a member of United Russia,Chavez is a Socialist,Hitler is a Nazi.but it seems that you OP,supported Mussolini,because he is in fact a Fascist

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#4  Edited By Master_Live
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Neither. No pasaran.

One Day More! - Les Misérables - 10th Anniversary Concert

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#5 Smashbrossive50
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@Master_Live said:
Neither. No pasaran.

my thoughts on the OP exactly,that term means it's just a stereotypical outsider's appearance in a specific country

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#6  Edited By Jacobistheman
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Those really aren't good descriptions of far left or far right. Fascism and Communism as we know them today are primarily Totalitarian and don't really map that well to our "Left" and "Right"

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#7  Edited By Jacobistheman
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For example, what would consider someone in the US that "Advocates a mixed economy" and supports intervention and protectionism (trade restrictions and taxes) in the economy allowing the government to create taxes and other measures to make sure that competition is fair and the US doesn't lose its competitive edge to other places?

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#8  Edited By GazaAli
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Out of these two? I'd say a communist, extreme left wing regime. It cannot be worse than a fascist, extreme right regime and I've experienced what the latter is capable of and what it does to people.

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#9 Brain_Duster
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depends on the traits of each leader.

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#10 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Neither.

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#11  Edited By SUD123456
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@GazaAli said:

Out of these two? I'd say a communist, extreme left wing regime. It cannot be worse than a fascist, extreme right regime and I've experienced what the latter is capable of and what it does to people.

Khmer Rouge under Pol Pot and friends. Possibly the worst regime in history.

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#12 pspdseagle
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lol at hugo chavez and putin extreme left.

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#13  Edited By deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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@SUD123456 said:

@GazaAli said:

Out of these two? I'd say a communist, extreme left wing regime. It cannot be worse than a fascist, extreme right regime and I've experienced what the latter is capable of and what it does to people.

Khmer Rouge under Pol Pot and friends. Possibly the worst regime in history.

Beat me to it. Pol Pot was like a caricature of evil yet he actually existed.

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#14 bforrester420
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Either system of governing is as bad as the other, so long as they're both totalitarian in nature.

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Read up on communism, no single state in the history of mankind managed to achieve what Marx or Lenin defined as communism.

Just because some totalitarian psycho is saying his country is communist doesn't mean it is. So I'd rather have a country by a guy that actually believes that everyone should be treated equal and all the left wing jazz instead of some nutjob that thinks you are inferior for some reason and can abuse the living **** out of you because he is higher on the hierarchy than you.

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#16 Makhaidos
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A communist leader is an oxymoron, so I'm pretty much fucked either way.

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#17 tocool340
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Neither...

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#18 limpbizkit818
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Is fascism really the "far right"? I never understood that. It seems that people just want to make them be opposites since fascist and communist regimes fought each other in the 20th century

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#19  Edited By osirisx3
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Well in a communist world i would not be killed over stupid reasons like not being pure while which is bad because......well.... reasons.

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#21  Edited By osirisx3
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@thegerg said:

@osirisx3 said:

Well in a communist world i would not be killed over stupid reasons like not being pure while which is bad because......well.... reasons.

On what do you base that assumption?

nazi germany killing millions of people because of bloodline? The USSR did not target people based on race.

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#22  Edited By one_plum
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@osirisx3 said:

Well in a communist world i would not be killed over stupid reasons...

Read up post WWII history.

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#24 osirisx3
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@thegerg said:

@osirisx3 said:

@thegerg said:

@osirisx3 said:

Well in a communist world i would not be killed over stupid reasons like not being pure while which is bad because......well.... reasons.

On what do you base that assumption?

nazi germany killing millions of people because of bloodline? The USSR did not target people based on race.

So you base your assumption that no one will kill another for their race on the actions of the USSR (a nation that imprisoned and deported people because of their race)? Do you understand that it's foolish to draw such a conclusion?

i never said no one one ever kill based on race, i was talking about the state. The USSR did not target people based on race communists believe everyone is the same.

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#26  Edited By osirisx3
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@thegerg said:

@osirisx3 said:

@thegerg said:

@osirisx3 said:

@thegerg said:

@osirisx3 said:

Well in a communist world i would not be killed over stupid reasons like not being pure while which is bad because......well.... reasons.

On what do you base that assumption?

nazi germany killing millions of people because of bloodline? The USSR did not target people based on race.

So you base your assumption that no one will kill another for their race on the actions of the USSR (a nation that imprisoned and deported people because of their race)? Do you understand that it's foolish to draw such a conclusion?

i never said no one one ever kill based on race, i was talking about the state. The USSR did not target people based on race communists believe everyone is the same.

"i never said no one one ever kill based on race"

You're right, your statement was much more selfish. It was just about you:"in a communist world i would not be killed over stupid reasons like not being pure while"

"The USSR did not target people based on race"

The USSR imprisoned and deported people based on their ethnicity.

imperialist lies

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#28  Edited By Master_Live
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@chaplainDMK said:

Read up on communism, no single state in the history of mankind managed to achieve what Marx or Lenin defined as communism.

Just because some totalitarian psycho is saying his country is communist doesn't mean it is. So I'd rather have a country by a guy that actually believes that everyone should be treated equal and all the left wing jazz instead of some nutjob that thinks you are inferior for some reason and can abuse the living **** out of you because he is higher on the hierarchy than you.

Of course, it just so happen that a high % of the guys claiming to have achieve a communist state turns out to be totalitarian psychos. For communists the true communist state is always just around the corner.

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@GazaAli said:

I've experienced what the latter is capable of and what it does to people.

What would that be? I don't think really Hamas fits into this scale and Israel can't honestly be described as that.

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#30  Edited By themajormayor
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@osirisx3 said:

@thegerg said:

@osirisx3 said:

Well in a communist world i would not be killed over stupid reasons like not being pure while which is bad because......well.... reasons.

On what do you base that assumption?

nazi germany killing millions of people because of bloodline? The USSR did not target people based on race.

Yes they did

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#31  Edited By lamprey263
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I'd prefer neither.

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#32 osirisx3
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@themajormayor said:

@osirisx3 said:

@thegerg said:

@osirisx3 said:

Well in a communist world i would not be killed over stupid reasons like not being pure while which is bad because......well.... reasons.

On what do you base that assumption?

nazi germany killing millions of people because of bloodline? The USSR did not target people based on race.

Yes they did

who told you that fox news? Let me guess time to run to wikipedia?

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#34 VaguelyTagged
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right wing of course. living under a communist regime by it's true values would be my ultimate hell.

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#35  Edited By IronBeaver
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I actually asked myself this recently, with the assumption that both choices would be purely functional. I chose communist, because there is the notion of international solidarity and peace, whereas fascism advocates constantly for war and conquest.

So pure communism would be more secure than pure fascism.

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#36  Edited By Praisedasun
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Putin a communist?

You can't be serious.

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#37  Edited By AmazonTreeBoa
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I pick neither.

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@osirisx3 said:

@themajormayor said:

@osirisx3 said:

@thegerg said:

@osirisx3 said:

Well in a communist world i would not be killed over stupid reasons like not being pure while which is bad because......well.... reasons.

On what do you base that assumption?

nazi germany killing millions of people because of bloodline? The USSR did not target people based on race.

Yes they did

who told you that fox news? Let me guess time to run to wikipedia?

Why would fox news tell me anything? Stalin's Jewish Doctor situation or the Ukrainian Holodomor comes to mind. Just an example.

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#39  Edited By branketra
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Both are bad, but communism is the lesser of two evils (based on what I have read).

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#40 4myAmuzumament
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i'll join the rebellion

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My choices, brick or clawhammer to the balls.. What do I do, what do I do..

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#42  Edited By vl4d_l3nin
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Doesn't matter. I have a genetic muscle condition, which would mean nothing to a communist state, but I'd be sectioned in a fascist state. My entire life I've worked in business, so I'd have to be heavily "re-educated" in a communist state

A drone or subject of the state..what a choice.

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#43 Ace6301
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I assume you mean the communist is a Marxist-Leninist rather than Marxist right?

Probably communist still. I'm pretty far removed from nationalism and fascists probably wouldn't like that much.

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A true communist leader would be better than any fascist government. It's too bad we haven't ever seen a true communist government before. Only fascist ones masquerading as communist.

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#45 vl4d_l3nin
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@foxhound_fox said:

A true communist leader would be better than any fascist government. It's too bad we haven't ever seen a true communist government before. Only fascist ones masquerading as communist.

I don't think true communism is possible. Human nature has a desire to be self-reliant. The idea of all human beings willingly giving the fruits of their labour to their comrades, without state force, exists only in an old mans dream.

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#46 lostrib
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@4myAmuzumament said:

i'll join the rebellion

Wolverines!

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#47  Edited By lostrib
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@foxhound_fox said:

A true communist leader would be better than any fascist government. It's too bad we haven't ever seen a true communist government before. Only fascist ones masquerading as communist.

Wouldn't true communism eventually dictate that there is no leader?

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@vl4d_l3nin said:

@foxhound_fox said:

A true communist leader would be better than any fascist government. It's too bad we haven't ever seen a true communist government before. Only fascist ones masquerading as communist.

I don't think true communism is possible. Human nature has a desire to be self-reliant. The idea of all human beings willingly giving the fruits of their labour to their comrades, without state force, exists only in an old mans dream.

Small egalitarian communities are possible. A giant, corporate regime functioning on the same values? Not so likely.

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@lostrib said:

@foxhound_fox said:

A true communist leader would be better than any fascist government. It's too bad we haven't ever seen a true communist government before. Only fascist ones masquerading as communist.

Wouldn't true communism eventually dictate that there is no leader?

The "leader" is "the will of the people".

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#50 coolbeans90
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i think that commies tended to be harder countries to escape from, on average, so prolly fascist so i can gtfo