Would you rather have a Communist (Extreme Left Wing) or Fascist (Extreme Right Wing) Leader?

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Posted by mrduckbears3 (133 posts) 3 years, 10 months ago

Poll: Would you rather have a Communist (Extreme Left Wing) or Fascist (Extreme Right Wing) Leader? (25 votes)

I'd rather have a Communist Leader (Extreme Left) - Example [Hugo Chavez or Putin] 72%
I'd rather have a Fascist Leader (Extreme Right) - Example [Hitler or Mussolini] 24%

let's see what people will choose

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#1 Posted by Smashbrossive50 (3915 posts) -

I chose Independent.

it's interesting that you have to know of my Anti-Communism trait.

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#2 Edited by Barbariser (6785 posts) -

In Malaysia? The Fascist would probably try to ethnically cleanse me, my family and friends. The Communist would only hurt us if it perceives us to be a threat to him. So I'd have far better chances of not being gassed/hung/disemboweled/shot/burned/hacked/gored/.etc with the far left guy.

Also, since when the **** was Putin a far left national leader. If you wanted someone as extreme as the two fascists you could have easily picked Mao and Stalin.

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#3 Posted by Smashbrossive50 (3915 posts) -

also OP most of your examples are HISTORICALLY WRONG!

Putin is not a commie,he is a member of United Russia,Chavez is a Socialist,Hitler is a Nazi.but it seems that you OP,supported Mussolini,because he is in fact a Fascist

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#4 Edited by Master_Live (18815 posts) -

Neither. No pasaran.

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#5 Posted by Smashbrossive50 (3915 posts) -

@Master_Live said:
Neither. No pasaran.

my thoughts on the OP exactly,that term means it's just a stereotypical outsider's appearance in a specific country

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#6 Edited by Jacobistheman (3975 posts) -

Those really aren't good descriptions of far left or far right. Fascism and Communism as we know them today are primarily Totalitarian and don't really map that well to our "Left" and "Right"

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#7 Edited by Jacobistheman (3975 posts) -

For example, what would consider someone in the US that "Advocates a mixed economy" and supports intervention and protectionism (trade restrictions and taxes) in the economy allowing the government to create taxes and other measures to make sure that competition is fair and the US doesn't lose its competitive edge to other places?

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#8 Edited by GazaAli (25216 posts) -

Out of these two? I'd say a communist, extreme left wing regime. It cannot be worse than a fascist, extreme right regime and I've experienced what the latter is capable of and what it does to people.

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#9 Posted by Brain_Duster (473 posts) -

depends on the traits of each leader.

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#10 Posted by airshocker (31700 posts) -

Neither.

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#11 Edited by SUD123456 (4877 posts) -

@GazaAli said:

Out of these two? I'd say a communist, extreme left wing regime. It cannot be worse than a fascist, extreme right regime and I've experienced what the latter is capable of and what it does to people.

Khmer Rouge under Pol Pot and friends. Possibly the worst regime in history.

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#12 Posted by pspdseagle (3307 posts) -

lol at hugo chavez and putin extreme left.

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#13 Edited by Perfect_Blue (29830 posts) -

@SUD123456 said:

@GazaAli said:

Out of these two? I'd say a communist, extreme left wing regime. It cannot be worse than a fascist, extreme right regime and I've experienced what the latter is capable of and what it does to people.

Khmer Rouge under Pol Pot and friends. Possibly the worst regime in history.

Beat me to it. Pol Pot was like a caricature of evil yet he actually existed.

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#14 Posted by bforrester420 (3480 posts) -

Either system of governing is as bad as the other, so long as they're both totalitarian in nature.

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#15 Posted by chaplainDMK (7004 posts) -

Read up on communism, no single state in the history of mankind managed to achieve what Marx or Lenin defined as communism.

Just because some totalitarian psycho is saying his country is communist doesn't mean it is. So I'd rather have a country by a guy that actually believes that everyone should be treated equal and all the left wing jazz instead of some nutjob that thinks you are inferior for some reason and can abuse the living **** out of you because he is higher on the hierarchy than you.

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#16 Posted by Makhaidos (2162 posts) -

A communist leader is an oxymoron, so I'm pretty much fucked either way.

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#17 Posted by tocool340 (21105 posts) -

Neither...

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#18 Posted by limpbizkit818 (15044 posts) -

Is fascism really the "far right"? I never understood that. It seems that people just want to make them be opposites since fascist and communist regimes fought each other in the 20th century

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#19 Edited by osirisx3 (2113 posts) -

Well in a communist world i would not be killed over stupid reasons like not being pure while which is bad because......well.... reasons.

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#20 Posted by thegerg (18266 posts) -

@osirisx3 said:

Well in a communist world i would not be killed over stupid reasons like not being pure while which is bad because......well.... reasons.

On what do you base that assumption?

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#21 Edited by osirisx3 (2113 posts) -

@thegerg said:

@osirisx3 said:

Well in a communist world i would not be killed over stupid reasons like not being pure while which is bad because......well.... reasons.

On what do you base that assumption?

nazi germany killing millions of people because of bloodline? The USSR did not target people based on race.

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#22 Edited by one_plum (6500 posts) -

@osirisx3 said:

Well in a communist world i would not be killed over stupid reasons...

Read up post WWII history.

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#23 Edited by thegerg (18266 posts) -

@osirisx3 said:

@thegerg said:

@osirisx3 said:

Well in a communist world i would not be killed over stupid reasons like not being pure while which is bad because......well.... reasons.

On what do you base that assumption?

nazi germany killing millions of people because of bloodline? The USSR did not target people based on race.

So you base your assumption that no one will kill another for their race on the actions of the USSR (a nation that imprisoned and deported people because of their race)? Do you understand that it's foolish to draw such a conclusion?

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#24 Posted by osirisx3 (2113 posts) -

@thegerg said:

@osirisx3 said:

@thegerg said:

@osirisx3 said:

Well in a communist world i would not be killed over stupid reasons like not being pure while which is bad because......well.... reasons.

On what do you base that assumption?

nazi germany killing millions of people because of bloodline? The USSR did not target people based on race.

So you base your assumption that no one will kill another for their race on the actions of the USSR (a nation that imprisoned and deported people because of their race)? Do you understand that it's foolish to draw such a conclusion?

i never said no one one ever kill based on race, i was talking about the state. The USSR did not target people based on race communists believe everyone is the same.

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#25 Posted by thegerg (18266 posts) -

@osirisx3 said:

@thegerg said:

@osirisx3 said:

@thegerg said:

@osirisx3 said:

Well in a communist world i would not be killed over stupid reasons like not being pure while which is bad because......well.... reasons.

On what do you base that assumption?

nazi germany killing millions of people because of bloodline? The USSR did not target people based on race.

So you base your assumption that no one will kill another for their race on the actions of the USSR (a nation that imprisoned and deported people because of their race)? Do you understand that it's foolish to draw such a conclusion?

i never said no one one ever kill based on race, i was talking about the state. The USSR did not target people based on race communists believe everyone is the same.

"i never said no one one ever kill based on race"

You're right, your statement was much more selfish. It was just about you:"in a communist world i would not be killed over stupid reasons like not being pure while"

"The USSR did not target people based on race"

The USSR imprisoned and deported people based on their ethnicity.

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#26 Edited by osirisx3 (2113 posts) -

@thegerg said:

@osirisx3 said:

@thegerg said:

@osirisx3 said:

@thegerg said:

@osirisx3 said:

Well in a communist world i would not be killed over stupid reasons like not being pure while which is bad because......well.... reasons.

On what do you base that assumption?

nazi germany killing millions of people because of bloodline? The USSR did not target people based on race.

So you base your assumption that no one will kill another for their race on the actions of the USSR (a nation that imprisoned and deported people because of their race)? Do you understand that it's foolish to draw such a conclusion?

i never said no one one ever kill based on race, i was talking about the state. The USSR did not target people based on race communists believe everyone is the same.

"i never said no one one ever kill based on race"

You're right, your statement was much more selfish. It was just about you:"in a communist world i would not be killed over stupid reasons like not being pure while"

"The USSR did not target people based on race"

The USSR imprisoned and deported people based on their ethnicity.

imperialist lies

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#27 Posted by thegerg (18266 posts) -

@osirisx3 said:

@thegerg said:

@osirisx3 said:

@thegerg said:

@osirisx3 said:

@thegerg said:

@osirisx3 said:

Well in a communist world i would not be killed over stupid reasons like not being pure while which is bad because......well.... reasons.

On what do you base that assumption?

nazi germany killing millions of people because of bloodline? The USSR did not target people based on race.

So you base your assumption that no one will kill another for their race on the actions of the USSR (a nation that imprisoned and deported people because of their race)? Do you understand that it's foolish to draw such a conclusion?

i never said no one one ever kill based on race, i was talking about the state. The USSR did not target people based on race communists believe everyone is the same.

"i never said no one one ever kill based on race"

You're right, your statement was much more selfish. It was just about you:"in a communist world i would not be killed over stupid reasons like not being pure while"

"The USSR did not target people based on race"

The USSR imprisoned and deported people based on their ethnicity.

imperialist lies

Haha, fucking troll.

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#28 Edited by Master_Live (18815 posts) -

@chaplainDMK said:

Read up on communism, no single state in the history of mankind managed to achieve what Marx or Lenin defined as communism.

Just because some totalitarian psycho is saying his country is communist doesn't mean it is. So I'd rather have a country by a guy that actually believes that everyone should be treated equal and all the left wing jazz instead of some nutjob that thinks you are inferior for some reason and can abuse the living **** out of you because he is higher on the hierarchy than you.

Of course, it just so happen that a high % of the guys claiming to have achieve a communist state turns out to be totalitarian psychos. For communists the true communist state is always just around the corner.

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#29 Posted by themajormayor (25500 posts) -

@GazaAli said:

I've experienced what the latter is capable of and what it does to people.

What would that be? I don't think really Hamas fits into this scale and Israel can't honestly be described as that.

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#30 Edited by themajormayor (25500 posts) -

@osirisx3 said:

@thegerg said:

@osirisx3 said:

Well in a communist world i would not be killed over stupid reasons like not being pure while which is bad because......well.... reasons.

On what do you base that assumption?

nazi germany killing millions of people because of bloodline? The USSR did not target people based on race.

Yes they did

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#31 Edited by lamprey263 (34380 posts) -

I'd prefer neither.

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#32 Posted by osirisx3 (2113 posts) -

@themajormayor said:

@osirisx3 said:

@thegerg said:

@osirisx3 said:

Well in a communist world i would not be killed over stupid reasons like not being pure while which is bad because......well.... reasons.

On what do you base that assumption?

nazi germany killing millions of people because of bloodline? The USSR did not target people based on race.

Yes they did

who told you that fox news? Let me guess time to run to wikipedia?

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#33 Edited by thegerg (18266 posts) -

@osirisx3 said:

@themajormayor said:

@osirisx3 said:

@thegerg said:

@osirisx3 said:

Well in a communist world i would not be killed over stupid reasons like not being pure while which is bad because......well.... reasons.

On what do you base that assumption?

nazi germany killing millions of people because of bloodline? The USSR did not target people based on race.

Yes they did

who told you that fox news? Let me guess time to run to wikipedia?

"who told you that fox news?"

This question doesn't even make sense. WTF are you on about?

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#34 Posted by VaguelyTagged (10701 posts) -

right wing of course. living under a communist regime by it's true values would be my ultimate hell.

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#35 Edited by IronBeaver (1986 posts) -

I actually asked myself this recently, with the assumption that both choices would be purely functional. I chose communist, because there is the notion of international solidarity and peace, whereas fascism advocates constantly for war and conquest.

So pure communism would be more secure than pure fascism.

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#36 Edited by Praisedasun (504 posts) -

Putin a communist?

You can't be serious.

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#37 Edited by AmazonTreeBoa (16745 posts) -

I pick neither.

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#38 Posted by themajormayor (25500 posts) -

@osirisx3 said:

@themajormayor said:

@osirisx3 said:

@thegerg said:

@osirisx3 said:

Well in a communist world i would not be killed over stupid reasons like not being pure while which is bad because......well.... reasons.

On what do you base that assumption?

nazi germany killing millions of people because of bloodline? The USSR did not target people based on race.

Yes they did

who told you that fox news? Let me guess time to run to wikipedia?

Why would fox news tell me anything? Stalin's Jewish Doctor situation or the Ukrainian Holodomor comes to mind. Just an example.

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#39 Edited by BranKetra (51726 posts) -

Both are bad, but communism is the lesser of two evils (based on what I have read).

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#40 Posted by 4myAmuzumament (1791 posts) -

i'll join the rebellion

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#41 Posted by deactivated-59d151f079814 (47239 posts) -


My choices, brick or clawhammer to the balls.. What do I do, what do I do..

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#42 Edited by vl4d_l3nin (1091 posts) -

Doesn't matter. I have a genetic muscle condition, which would mean nothing to a communist state, but I'd be sectioned in a fascist state. My entire life I've worked in business, so I'd have to be heavily "re-educated" in a communist state

A drone or subject of the state..what a choice.

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#43 Posted by Ace6301 (21389 posts) -

I assume you mean the communist is a Marxist-Leninist rather than Marxist right?

Probably communist still. I'm pretty far removed from nationalism and fascists probably wouldn't like that much.

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#44 Posted by foxhound_fox (96562 posts) -

A true communist leader would be better than any fascist government. It's too bad we haven't ever seen a true communist government before. Only fascist ones masquerading as communist.

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#45 Posted by vl4d_l3nin (1091 posts) -

@foxhound_fox said:

A true communist leader would be better than any fascist government. It's too bad we haven't ever seen a true communist government before. Only fascist ones masquerading as communist.

I don't think true communism is possible. Human nature has a desire to be self-reliant. The idea of all human beings willingly giving the fruits of their labour to their comrades, without state force, exists only in an old mans dream.

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#46 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@4myAmuzumament said:

i'll join the rebellion

Wolverines!

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#47 Edited by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@foxhound_fox said:

A true communist leader would be better than any fascist government. It's too bad we haven't ever seen a true communist government before. Only fascist ones masquerading as communist.

Wouldn't true communism eventually dictate that there is no leader?

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#48 Posted by foxhound_fox (96562 posts) -

@vl4d_l3nin said:

@foxhound_fox said:

A true communist leader would be better than any fascist government. It's too bad we haven't ever seen a true communist government before. Only fascist ones masquerading as communist.

I don't think true communism is possible. Human nature has a desire to be self-reliant. The idea of all human beings willingly giving the fruits of their labour to their comrades, without state force, exists only in an old mans dream.

Small egalitarian communities are possible. A giant, corporate regime functioning on the same values? Not so likely.

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#49 Posted by foxhound_fox (96562 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@foxhound_fox said:

A true communist leader would be better than any fascist government. It's too bad we haven't ever seen a true communist government before. Only fascist ones masquerading as communist.

Wouldn't true communism eventually dictate that there is no leader?

The "leader" is "the will of the people".

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#50 Posted by coolbeans90 (21305 posts) -

i think that commies tended to be harder countries to escape from, on average, so prolly fascist so i can gtfo