Women Want To Be Equal To Men, But With The Comfort Of Inferiority

My opinion might be biased as i have recently seen stuff like i mentioned first hand.

In November i was promoted at work over a female employee with more seniority. She filed a grievance with the union which up until last week was delaying my pay increase and my change in schedule.

It basically went like this.

Her : He only got this promotion because im a woman, i deserved it over Him.

My boss : Well can you hand lift up to 150 pounds on a regular basis?

Her : No. And i don't think i should have to because i'm a woman.

My boss : Well do you at least know how to run the equipment in the back?

Her : No. There is always someone else to do it, why should i have to?

My boss : Ok, well since you cant do any of the stuff that we require in that slot we are going to have to give it to Him.

Her : Zomg im filing a frivolous grievance because someone else got a job i am incapable of and unwilling to do.

My opinion might be biased as i have recently seen stuff like i mentioned first hand.

In November i was promoted at work over a female employee with more seniority. She filed a grievance with the union which up until last week was delaying my pay increase and my change in schedule.

It basically went like this.

Her : He only got this promotion because im a woman, i deserved it over Him.

My boss : Well can you hand lift up to 150 pounds on a regular basis?

Her : No. And i don't think i should have to because i'm a woman.

My boss : Well do you at least know how to run the equipment in the back?

Her : No. There is always someone else to do it, why should i have to?

My boss : Ok, well since you cant do any of the stuff that we require in that slot we are going to have to give it to Him.

Her : Zomg im filing a frivolous grievance because someone else got a job i am incapable of and unwilling to do.

Alter_Echo

I think I should add, that I view the situation as more of a problem with society and societal perceptions than most women themselves. It's not like every other woman you see is complaining about equal rights, but morning shows with large female audiences and news in general tends to take the females side. Hardly any exceptions.

I remember a story maybe 1-2 yrs ago about a group of women who exacted revenge on a man who had cheated on them without them knowing. They formulated a plot where one of them tricked him into a hotel room promising a massage (at the time he was not aware she or the others knew about his cheating). She ended up blindfolding and tying him up for the massage. (Of course he was clearly an idiot for letting this happen, but that's irrelevant). When he was tied up and restrained the others appeared, and they super-glued his penis to his stomach.

Now, what he did was wrong I hate people who cheat, but is this really the way to handle it? Now getting to my main point I am not mad at women for this occurrence since 99% of women would never do something like this. What irritated me was the way the news people covering the story acted. They acted as though the women were clever and actually ended up laughing mildly about the story. Of course cheating is wrong, but I can only imagine the media reaction if a group of men did something involving glue and private areas to a women who had cheated on them.

There are some obvious double standards.

i watched a lecture about how the inequality of pay between men and women is mostly (like round 80% of it is) due to the overlooked and simple fact that men work more hours on average. men work more overtime. which gives them an advantage when promotions are being decided. and there were a few other points as well. it was pretty interesting i forget what it's called but its on youtube (of course)

Phaze-Two

Most of the argument over equal pay is actually for doing the same job. It's not comparing two different jobs. Men are not forced into the army in every country. For some it's an option not a requirement.LJS9502_basic

Alter_Echo

If women want equality then they should be forced to be put in wars. No children and ladies first, only children. Men should be able to fight back and slap her if she slaps him. All sports should be unisex.

All sports should be unisex.

ArchonOver

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Most of the argument over equal pay is actually for doing the same job. It's not comparing two different jobs. Men are not forced into the army in every country. For some it's an option not a requirement.Deihjan

[QUOTE="ArchonOver"]

All sports should be unisex.

Deihjan

I would bet on you, Deih.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Deihjan"] Name a country where men aren't forced into the army, then. I don't know, seeing as I only know my own country's rules.dreDREb13

[QUOTE="Deihjan"][QUOTE="ArchonOver"]

All sports should be unisex.

no_more_fayth

I would bet on you, Deih.

I would have to agree, I'veyet to meet a woman that wants equality but refuses to give up being treated as if shes not equal and as if shes a woman.

[QUOTE="no_more_fayth"]

[QUOTE="Deihjan"] There is a reason there are male and female sports.. I don't want to fight a man just because he'd be in the same weightclass as me, if I were a boxer, because of 'equality'. x_xDeihjan

I would bet on you, Deih.

Hahaha.

You have a mean streak. =3

:o

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="dreDREb13"]Well the whole selective service thing is what they're getting at...dreDREb13

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="dreDREb13"]Well, I guess they're just going off of past drafts, and the assumable scenario that it'd be males only should another draft be reinstated.

dreDREb13

They (Feminists) want equality when it is convenient for them. That is all.harashawn

To a degree this is true. Women want the pros of being a man but none of the cons.

Accept the cons. Like getting hit or drafted into war.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="dreDREb13"]No, it's just that the draft actually was male-only, so then people just assume males would be the only ones going should another draft happen. It factually was males only. People didn't just believe it was. I don't think that analogy you gave is really fair. Granted, sure, we can't say for sure whether or not women would be included in another draft, but all I'm saying is that past ones have led people to believe such.dreDREb13

To a degree this is true. Women want the pros of being a man but none of the cons.

Accept the cons. Like getting hit or drafted into war.

To a degree this is true. Women want the pros of being a man but none of the cons.

Accept the cons. Like getting hit or drafted into war.

Pixel-Pirate

[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

i watched a lecture about how the inequality of pay between men and women is mostly (like round 80% of it is) due to the overlooked and simple fact that men work more hours on average. men work more overtime. which gives them an advantage when promotions are being decided. and there were a few other points as well. it was pretty interesting i forget what it's called but its on youtube (of course)

Deihjan

[QUOTE="Deihjan"][QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

i watched a lecture about how the inequality of pay between men and women is mostly (like round 80% of it is) due to the overlooked and simple fact that men work more hours on average. men work more overtime. which gives them an advantage when promotions are being decided. and there were a few other points as well. it was pretty interesting i forget what it's called but its on youtube (of course)

Phaze-Two

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

To a degree this is true. Women want the pros of being a man but none of the cons.

Accept the cons. Like getting hit or drafted into war.

fidosim

They'll have to, unless they want to make a gosh darn sandwich.

[QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

To a degree this is true. Women want the pros of being a man but none of the cons.

Accept the cons. Like getting hit or drafted into war.

They'll have to, unless they want to make a gosh darn sandwich.

[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"][QUOTE="Deihjan"] That's not true, really. My mother has worked more overtime than any of the men she's ever worked with, who held a position equal to hers. I guess there are places in the world where what you say holds true, but, yeah..LJS9502_basic

i think the equal work part could have meant the salary difference between men & women of the same job position.

I'm not saying it's definitly true, or unbiased, but heres the lecture.

To a degree this is true. Women want the pros of being a man but none of the cons.

Accept the cons. Like getting hit or drafted into war.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Phaze-Two"] i don't see how one example makes what was said in the lecture (which was based on statistics, and presented as averages) untrue.Phaze-Two

i think the equal work part could have meant the salary difference between men & women of the same job position.

I'm not saying it's definitly true, or unbiased, but heres the lecture.

To a degree this is true. Women want the pros of being a man but none of the cons.

Accept the cons. Like getting hit or drafted into war.

[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I'd be curious to see those facts since the argument has always been equal pay for equal work. LJS9502_basic

i think the equal work part could have meant the salary difference between men & women of the same job position.

I'm not saying it's definitly true, or unbiased, but heres the lecture.

could be. however, the CATO institute isn't giving the lecture, FYI.