Will You Give Mouth to Mouth to Another Man?

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#1 Posted by PSP107 (16728 posts) -

I actually bought this topic twice years ago. But anyway, with all the media coverage of that gay college player hoping to be drafted in the NFL, this topic came up.

So I was wondering if a man was in need of mouth to mouth, what will you do?

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#2 Edited by toast_burner (24730 posts) -

Are you 8 years old?

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#3 Posted by thegerg (18283 posts) -

It depends.

What does this have to do with a football player?

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#4 Posted by Master_Live (18817 posts) -

No, I would let him die.

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#5 Posted by PSP107 (16728 posts) -

@toast_burner said:

Are you 8 years old?

How does that make me 8?

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#6 Posted by korvus (10713 posts) -

Of course I would, and I think most everyone (who knows how) would.

On a related topic one of my scariest experiences was performing CPR to a 2 week old baby...even though I knew what to do, you're never ready for something like that...

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#7 Edited by Master_Live (18817 posts) -

@PSP107 said:

@toast_burner said:

Are you 8 years old?

How does that make me 8?

Seems childish to deny life saving mouth to mouth breathers to someone because they might be of your same sex.

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#8 Posted by megagene (23153 posts) -

Uh... Yes?

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#9 Posted by johnd13 (9290 posts) -

Of course. What the hell is the matter with you TC...

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#10 Posted by Master_Live (18817 posts) -

@johnd13 said:

Of course. What the hell is the matter with you TC...

But you might catch gays.

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#11 Posted by korvus (10713 posts) -

@Master_Live said:

But you might catch gays.

It was a gay trap all along? =O Can you tweak it?

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#12 Posted by konvikt_17 (22378 posts) -

How much did it cost?

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#13 Posted by AmazonTreeBoa (16745 posts) -

A stranger or somebody I know well and care for (like my father for example)?

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#14 Posted by korvus (10713 posts) -

@AmazonTreeBoa: Would your answer be yes in one case and no on the other?

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#15 Posted by Eikichi-Onizuka (9068 posts) -

Only if he pays me upfront.

Just kidding, I would. But in any experience like this(male or female) I'd hope someone more experienced in CPR is around.

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#16 Edited by AmazonTreeBoa (16745 posts) -

@Korvus85 said:

@AmazonTreeBoa: Would your answer be yes in one case and no on the other?

Yes.

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#17 Posted by korvus (10713 posts) -

@AmazonTreeBoa: Because he'd be a stranger, a man, or because you didn't want the responsibility of the resuscitation going wrong?

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#18 Posted by lamprey263 (34501 posts) -

yes, the purpose is to save lives not to look for an excuse to get lucky, and I doubt I could savor giving mouth to mouth to someone who's dying so I don't really see how sexual preference would matter

it's worth noting people should study up on basic CPR in the event it's needed, don't think you know it simply because you've seen it on TV

on the other hand, if you asked me if I'd give mouth to mouth to a disease ridden hobo, that's a different question

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#19 Edited by ferrari2001 (17762 posts) -

No I'd just let him die.... Of course I'd perform CPR, I couldn't just sit back and watch someone die. Even though the change of survival is only about 8% for those given CPR without the use of a defibrillator I'd still give it my best shot.

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#20 Edited by AmazonTreeBoa (16745 posts) -

@Korvus85: Not sure why the last part would be an issue. Him being a stranger and a man, but the stranger part is the bigger issue for me.

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#21 Posted by korvus (10713 posts) -

@AmazonTreeBoa said:

@Korvus85: Not sure why the last part would be an issue. Him being a stranger and a man, but the stranger part is the bigger issue for me.

To me the last part is the only one that I could consider an issue. If you botch it up you might end up doing more harm than good and when a paramedic would get to the locale he/she might not be able to resuscitate the victim.

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#22 Posted by AmazonTreeBoa (16745 posts) -

@Korvus85: Okay...

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#23 Posted by ferrari2001 (17762 posts) -
@Korvus85 said:

@AmazonTreeBoa said:

@Korvus85: Not sure why the last part would be an issue. Him being a stranger and a man, but the stranger part is the bigger issue for me.

To me the last part is the only one that I could consider an issue. If you botch it up you might end up doing more harm than good and when a paramedic would get to the locale he/she might not be able to resuscitate the victim.

If you've never been trained in CPR then you should never under any circumstance attempt to perform it as you will most likely do more harm than good. If you've been trained however then you have an obligation, I think, to at least try and save the victim, no matter how slim their chance of survival is.

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#24 Posted by korvus (10713 posts) -

@ferrari2001 said:

If you've never been trained in CPR then you should never under any circumstance attempt to perform it as you will most likely do more harm than good. If you've been trained however then you have an obligation, I think, to at least try and save the victim, no matter how slim their chance of survival is.

Agreed; luckily I only had to do it twice, but like I said in the beginning of the thread, one of those times was on a 2 week old baby...you're never really "trained" for that. (The baby was fine afterward, by the way =D)

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#25 Edited by Allicrombie (26207 posts) -

I think I read that nowadays, they just use chest compressions, no more CPR.

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#26 Posted by korvus (10713 posts) -

@Allicrombie: No more paramedic kisses? Guess I'll have to try something else then...

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#27 Posted by Allicrombie (26207 posts) -

@Korvus85: sad, huh?

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#28 Posted by korvus (10713 posts) -

@Allicrombie: Yep, next you'll tell me that if I choke on something in a restaurant I don't get hugs anymore =(

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#29 Posted by Trender_man (143 posts) -

absolutely

oh you mean cpr

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#30 Posted by korvus (10713 posts) -

@Trender_man: Your sig makes me think that I should not post in the forums while wearing my pajamas...

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#31 Edited by LittleMac19 (1638 posts) -

Yes but if they had herpes or something on their lips then I'm sorry but enjoy after life.

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#32 Posted by korvus (10713 posts) -

@LittleMac19: You can always do the compressions without the breathing. The paramedic who taught me CPR said he always carried a bag valve mask with him wherever he went, even when he was off-duty.

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#33 Posted by zanelli (1063 posts) -
@Allicrombie said:

I think I read that nowadays, they just use chest compressions, no more CPR.

The last first aid course I was on they said that now you don't have to do it, for legal reasons, but you are more likely to save someone's life if you do.

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#34 Edited by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@Allicrombie said:

I think I read that nowadays, they just use chest compressions, no more CPR.

Yeah, when I was doing clinical rotations as part of a training grant, they said they no longer practice the breathing just chest compressions, although the number of compressions you have to do can be rather tiring (done to the beat of "Stayin' Alive")

"In a major change, the American Heart Association said Monday that hands-only CPR — rapid, deep presses on the victim’s chest until help arrives — works just as well as standard CPR for sudden cardiac arrest in adults."

"Ewy said there’s no point to giving early breaths in the case of sudden cardiac arrest, and it takes too long to stop compressions to give two breaths — 16 seconds for the average person. He noted that victims often gasp periodically anyway, drawing in a little air on their own."

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#35 Posted by hippiesanta (10299 posts) -

@PSP107:

it depends on their racial profile .... lol

I'm Joking ....... lol ... I was train to give cpr to anyone no matter they are ugly, black, brown, arabs , gender, bad breath or homosexual

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#36 Posted by PSP107 (16728 posts) -

@Master_Live said:

@PSP107 said:

@toast_burner said:

Are you 8 years old?

How does that make me 8?

Seems childish to deny life saving mouth to mouth breathers to someone because they might be of your same sex.

You just said you will let them die. And I'm pretty sure the majority will at least hesitate.

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#37 Edited by The-Apostle (12195 posts) -

I'm not certified, so no. I'd find someone who is though!

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#38 Posted by Gaming-Planet (18753 posts) -

Don't see how saving one man's life makes you gay... and what if you're a girl?

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#39 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@PSP107 said:

@Master_Live said:

@PSP107 said:

@toast_burner said:

Are you 8 years old?

How does that make me 8?

Seems childish to deny life saving mouth to mouth breathers to someone because they might be of your same sex.

You just said you will let them die. And I'm pretty sure the majority will at least hesitate.

Pretty sure he wasn't being serious, but rather pointing out the ridiculousness of your question. If people hesitate, I doubt it is because the person may be of the same gender, but rather that it is a rather huge responsibility to take a strangers life in your hands--and should only be done if you are properly trained. And the thread is pointless since recent CPR changes now only use chest compressions, no mouth to mouth.

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#40 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@Gaming-Planet said:

Don't see how saving one man's life makes you gay... and what if you're a girl?

Then it makes you pregnant

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#41 Posted by PSP107 (16728 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@PSP107 said:

@Master_Live said:

@PSP107 said:

@toast_burner said:

Are you 8 years old?

How does that make me 8?

Seems childish to deny life saving mouth to mouth breathers to someone because they might be of your same sex.

You just said you will let them die. And I'm pretty sure the majority will at least hesitate.

Pretty sure he wasn't being serious, but rather pointing out the ridiculousness of your question. If people hesitate, I doubt it is because the person may be of the same gender, but rather that it is a rather huge responsibility to take a strangers life in your hands--and should only be done if you are properly trained. And the thread is pointless since recent CPR changes now only use chest compressions, no mouth to mouth.

@lostrib said:

@PSP107 said:

@Master_Live said:

@PSP107 said:

@toast_burner said:

Are you 8 years old?

How does that make me 8?

Seems childish to deny life saving mouth to mouth breathers to someone because they might be of your same sex.

You just said you will let them die. And I'm pretty sure the majority will at least hesitate.

Pretty sure he wasn't being serious, but rather pointing out the ridiculousness of your question. If people hesitate, I doubt it is because the person may be of the same gender, but rather that it is a rather huge responsibility to take a strangers life in your hands--and should only be done if you are properly trained. And the thread is pointless since recent CPR changes now only use chest compressions, no mouth to mouth.

1st of all sometimes there is truth into someone using sarcasm. The middle part of your statement is off, I mean you act like people are trained for something like this? Not to mention recent CPR changes. I'm quite sure I'm not alone in knowing their were new CPR methods.

And the best of example of my point is from that Seinfeld episode where Jerry and Newman struggled to give the pool guy mouth to mouth. sure it was comedy, but you cant deny there some truth to that on how most guys will react in a random situation like that.

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#42 Posted by plageus900 (2364 posts) -

@PSP107 said:

@toast_burner said:

Are you 8 years old?

How does that make me 8?

Saving a man's life has nothing to do with homosexuality, doofus.

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#43 Edited by PSP107 (16728 posts) -

@plageus900 said:

@PSP107 said:

@toast_burner said:

Are you 8 years old?

How does that make me 8?

Saving a man's life has nothing to do with homosexuality, doofus.

I never said it did retard.

I just ask what will you do if put into that situation.

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#44 Edited by yokofox33 (30774 posts) -

Oh, PSP...

I don't think anyone who is in a situation to save someone's life would think it would make them gay for giving mouth-to-mouth to the same sex. If you think that, then you have major problems.

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#45 Posted by korvus (10713 posts) -

Watch the insults, don't make me moderate you.

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#46 Edited by Barbariser (6785 posts) -

I am medically untrained, so I would not give mouth to mouth to anyone, male or female.

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#47 Edited by thegerg (18283 posts) -
@Allicrombie said:

I think I read that nowadays, they just use chest compressions, no more CPR.

Not exactly. In many cases it was found that people were not performing CPR because they were apprehensive about breathing into another person's mouth. Now many people are being trained to use just chest compressions because it's better that they do just compressions instead of nothing.

Rescue breaths are still useful in saving lives.

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#48 Edited by themajormayor (25614 posts) -
@Korvus85 said:

Watch the insults, don't make me moderate you.

Hubris?

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#49 Edited by korvus (10713 posts) -

@themajormayor: How so?

EDIT: Oh, I see. English is not my first language so sometimes I don't quite notice the tone of what I write. It wasn't intended to sound like a threat, I actually meant it as a request. Like I said before, I hate having to moderate the threads I'm following, makes me feel like I can't keep commenting as a user.

Considering the rules in this case state the person should get a strike and a 1 day suspension I was asking them to stop with the insults so I wouldn't be forced to moderate them.

Thank you for the warning though; I will pay more attention to the tone of my replies in the future =)

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#50 Posted by comp_atkins (34385 posts) -

no, not trained