Why OT hates Hip Hop / Rap ???

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#1 indzman
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For those who hates on Hip Hop / Rap Music

1. Hip Hop / Rap music is not always about pimps , hoes and drugs . Girls shaking thier bodies on HIP HOP videos is not obscene ( You'll be shocked by Arabian dancing if you dislike Hip Hop Videos ).

2. Hip Hop music dosen't promote violence. Violent people promote Violence , not Music .

3. Hip Hop music is as superior as POP . In Discotheque , car stereos or parties Hip Hop Music is enjoyed . Correct me if i'm wrong .

4. Hip Hop artists earns in millions and are considered as Top Music Celebrities .

5. Hip Hop music promotes stylish and urban fashion amongst youngsters ( dressing , grooming )

6. Rap music is a form of self expression ... poetry . Hip Hop Music is Rythmic .

Conclusion :

Hip Hop / Rap Music is not EVIL.

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#2 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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I dont hate it.

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#3 bobcheeseball
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As a Hip-Hop fan lots of Hip-Hop music does in fact glorify violence. And if all most people on OT hear is the general stuff on the radio, I can hardly blame them for having a prejudice against Hip-Hop. But they should also listen to more then just mainstream Hip-Hop before they decide to hate it also.
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#4 TacticalDesire
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I don't hate it, and tbh OT spends alot more time hating Pop.

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#5 DmadFearmonger
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I'm aware It's not all bad and if you're into that stuff then whatever. But some of it is utter horsepiss and that's when it bothers me.

Anyway, the music never appealed to me so I'm not gonna explore into it. I'm perfectly happy with what music I already listen to

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#6 imaps3fanboy
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I don't mind it.
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#7 DmadFearmonger
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I don't hate it, and tbh OT spends alot more time hating Pop.

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Which deserves the hate it gets. Bunch of brainwashing money hounds are those Pop stars
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#8 bobcheeseball
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[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

I don't hate it, and tbh OT spends alot more time hating Pop.

DmadFearmonger

Which deserves the hate it gets. Bunch of brainwashing money hounds are those Pop stars

What?

A Musician wants to make money??!

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#9 punkpunker
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dont hate em but 90% of them are what you stated about sex and such.

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#10 howlrunner13
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I don't hate it.

I just don't like it.

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#11 LightR
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Hip hop can be awesome. I love CYNE but really dislike some of the other music that is out there.
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#12 DmadFearmonger
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[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

I don't hate it, and tbh OT spends alot more time hating Pop.

bobcheeseball

Which deserves the hate it gets. Bunch of brainwashing money hounds are those Pop stars

What?

A Musician wants to make money??!

Some musicians just want to make music. They put their heart and soul into it. That is when a musician is good. Sadly they're rare

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#13 Aquat1cF1sh
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I don't think the negative attitudes toward hip-hop and rap are exclusive to OT.

I don't hate it, and tbh OT spends alot more time hating Pop.

TacticalDesire

Yeah, I'd say pop gets more hate here.

For the record though I agree with you OP, it's not evil like some people make it out to be.

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#14 imaps3fanboy
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[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]Which deserves the hate it gets. Bunch of brainwashing money hounds are those Pop starsDmadFearmonger

What?

A Musician wants to make money??!

Some musicians just want to make music. They put their heart and soul into it. That is when a musician is good. Sadly they're rare

:D you don't think DT is in it mainly for the money?

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[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

I don't hate it, and tbh OT spends alot more time hating Pop.

bobcheeseball

Which deserves the hate it gets. Bunch of brainwashing money hounds are those Pop stars

What?

A Musician wants to make money??!

Silly, you know being a musician doesn't qualify as a real job:P

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Why do people care what other people think of their music tastes?
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#17 KHAndAnime
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I like the use of instruments in my music
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#19 imaps3fanboy
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Because they're racist

Black people never get the benefit of having distinguishable traits based on varying circumstances. It's all one big stereotype. Most music genres are compared and contrasted between mainstream songs that are usually unintelligent and popular and underground music that stays true to the aspects that define it. But for Hip Hop/Rap? it's all big booty models and cars, amirite? Because what better place to characterize anything than the mainstream outlets that expose it...

/rant

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#20 CHOASXIII
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Because of the way it is.

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#21 PernicioEnigma
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I just generally don't like how itsounds. It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the message.
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#22 DmadFearmonger
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[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]

[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]

What?

A Musician wants to make money??!

imaps3fanboy

Some musicians just want to make music. They put their heart and soul into it. That is when a musician is good. Sadly they're rare

:D you don't think DT is in it mainly for the money?

They've said it themselves that they stay as far away from the mainstream as possible. And they're aware that they are somewhat mainstream. No, they're not in it for the money.

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#23 chaoscougar1
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[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]Some musicians just want to make music. They put their heart and soul into it. That is when a musician is good. Sadly they're rare

DmadFearmonger

:D you don't think DT is in it mainly for the money?

They've said it themselves that they stay as far away from the mainstream as possible. And they're aware that they are somewhat mainstream. No, they're not in it for the money.

Ignorance is bliss
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[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]Some musicians just want to make music. They put their heart and soul into it. That is when a musician is good. Sadly they're rare

DmadFearmonger

:D you don't think DT is in it mainly for the money?

They've said it themselves that they stay as far away from the mainstream as possible. And they're aware that they are somewhat mainstream. No, they're not in it for the money.

So if they got little to no money for being musicians you think they would still be going? The only band I can really think of that cares nothing about money is the band Anvil. They used to play in front of about 5 people in bars and played just as hard as if they played in front of 10,000
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#25 TheNewEraIcon
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I don't hate it either, its actually my 4th favorite genre of music. Though I'm more into old school R&B than actual rap. My guess is that most people hate it because they view the commercialized stuff to be in poor taste. Go listen to some Pharoahe and then compare it to something like Gucci mane and you'll see what I mean.

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#26 bc1391
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Because they haven't accepted the fact that Based God cooked for their sins.

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#27 Bikouchu35
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B.c OT is made up of a certain demographic that happens to not like Hip Hop as a majority. Im guessing.

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#29 DmadFearmonger
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[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]

:D you don't think DT is in it mainly for the money?

imaps3fanboy

They've said it themselves that they stay as far away from the mainstream as possible. And they're aware that they are somewhat mainstream. No, they're not in it for the money.

So if they got little to no money for being musicians you think they would still be going? The only band I can really think of that cares nothing about money is the band Anvil. They used to play in front of about 5 people in bars and played just as hard as if they played in front of 10,000

That's fair enough. And I admire Anvils attitude from what you're saying
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#30 The-Tree
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Because OT is full of Metalheads and Radiohead junkies. And then there's dmad, with his Dream Theater obsession.

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#31 imaps3fanboy
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[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"][QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]They've said it themselves that they stay as far away from the mainstream as possible. And they're aware that they are somewhat mainstream. No, they're not in it for the money.

DmadFearmonger

So if they got little to no money for being musicians you think they would still be going? The only band I can really think of that cares nothing about money is the band Anvil. They used to play in front of about 5 people in bars and played just as hard as if they played in front of 10,000

That's fair enough. And I admire Anvils attitude from what you're saying

You should watch the documentary. They were really popular when they first started, then they kind of got drowned out by all the other big bands of the 80's They played the next 30 years or so in small bars, until this documentary came out.

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[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"] So if they got little to no money for being musicians you think they would still be going? The only band I can really think of that cares nothing about money is the band Anvil. They used to play in front of about 5 people in bars and played just as hard as if they played in front of 10,000imaps3fanboy

That's fair enough. And I admire Anvils attitude from what you're saying

You should watch the documentary. They were really popular when they first started, then they kind of got drowned out by all the other big bands of the 80's They played the next 30 years or so in small bars, until this documentary came out.

I reckon I will later on.
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I don't hate hip hop. I love it. I do love some rap as well. I guess I think hip hop and rap are widely different in my eyes. As for the whole "for the money" thing... well... yeah. They are performing AS A CAREER. Do you want to do your dream job for free? Really? If they want to be "for the music only" then they need to get either a more flexible label or go back to the little coffee shops and perform. They have to do what the record companies tell them. Why? Because they are under a freaking contract. Some of them probably want to make some different music but some companies won't allow it. Trust me, every band who has a record label wants to make some sort of money and fame. Don't even try to say otherwise. For real. The less fans they have, the less money they make. That's why some of them leave the scene so quickly because they don't have enough support. IMO, most of the time mainstream is the way to go.
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#34 psn8214
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I don't hate it. I prefer it to metal actually (vastly), and isn't that kinda' OT's thing?

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#35 Inconsistancy
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It sounds terrible, that's why I hate it.

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@5, that's a negative, I hate when people can't wear properly sized clothing correctly.

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#36 DmadFearmonger
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Guys, you heard this?

Rap works better when It's not in Hip-Hop

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#37 Silverbond
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I wrote a paper on why rap was the best genre of music.

It wasn't graded.

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#38 hadoken
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i noticed the people who like rock always say "rap sucks", but i never see the people who like rap say "rock sucks". i think rap fans are much more humble and have more respect.
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i noticed the people who like rock always say "rap sucks", but i never see the people who like rap say "rock sucks". i think rap fans are much more humble and have more respect.hadoken
Dmad and 1 or 2 other people are the only ones saying Rap sucks
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#40 DmadFearmonger
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I'm noteworthy :D

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#41 Sandulf29
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I don't hate it. In fatcEminem is my favorite artist. I don't listen much to Hip-Hop but I do listen to it quite a bit

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#42 hadoken
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[QUOTE="hadoken"]i noticed the people who like rock always say "rap sucks", but i never see the people who like rap say "rock sucks". i think rap fans are much more humble and have more respect.imaps3fanboy
Dmad and 1 or 2 other people are the only ones saying Rap sucks

when i search on google "rap sucks" i get pages and pages of people complaining about it. but then when i search "rock sucks" there's pretty much less than one page.
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[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"][QUOTE="hadoken"]i noticed the people who like rock always say "rap sucks", but i never see the people who like rap say "rock sucks". i think rap fans are much more humble and have more respect.hadoken
Dmad and 1 or 2 other people are the only ones saying Rap sucks

when i search on google "rap sucks" i get pages and pages of people complaining about it. but then when i search "rock sucks" there's pretty much less than one page.

That's because a lot of metal listeners are angsty teenagers that think their opinion means something.
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[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"][QUOTE="hadoken"]i noticed the people who like rock always say "rap sucks", but i never see the people who like rap say "rock sucks". i think rap fans are much more humble and have more respect.hadoken
Dmad and 1 or 2 other people are the only ones saying Rap sucks

when i search on google "rap sucks" i get pages and pages of people complaining about it. but then when i search "rock sucks" there's pretty much less than one page.

Maybe, Rock sucks less than Rap on average :D?
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#45 hadoken
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[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"][QUOTE="hadoken"][QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"] Dmad and 1 or 2 other people are the only ones saying Rap sucks

when i search on google "rap sucks" i get pages and pages of people complaining about it. but then when i search "rock sucks" there's pretty much less than one page.

That's because a lot of metal listeners are angsty teenagers that think their opinion means something.

thats true
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#46 hadoken
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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="hadoken"][QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"] Dmad and 1 or 2 other people are the only ones saying Rap sucks

when i search on google "rap sucks" i get pages and pages of people complaining about it. but then when i search "rock sucks" there's pretty much less than one page.

Maybe, Rock sucks less than Rap on average :D?

lol maybe. there is a lot of sucky rap out there
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#47 iowastate
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i never got that impression. The only genre I ever noticed that really got dislike from this site was good ole American Bye God Country music.

I was in a music union once up on a time that said 'All types of music are welcome here'

what they really meant was any kind of rock...even Heavy Metal was allowed.

Country was not exaclty disallowed but any mention of it was ignored.

I like and enjoy ALL music and have faves from every type....my first love is country western the one by GOD REAL American music.

Heavy Metal, persian, Hindi, German, Tex-Mex, French, you name it i enjoy it. Vigen, Reytoro, Mireille Mathieu, etc.

the best is still Webb Pierce, Kitty Wells, Brad Paisly, Toby Keith

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Why do people care what other people think of their music tastes?chaoscougar1
Pretty much getting to this point. used to bother me that haters were gonna hate my music, but then I sat back and wondered why the hell I even cared to begin with...
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#49 battlefront23
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I don't listen much to Hip-Hop but I do listen to it quite a bit

Sandulf29

Hmm...

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#50 smokingsbad
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People have different taste. Everyone should give J.Cole a try though :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvIeEv7-EDk