@MrGeezer said:
@always_explicit said:
Seriously....people do not look down on porn because it is gross. I dont think I have even heard that given as a reason before. Are you even serious???
Obviously there is niche pornography which people might find gross or offensive but providing its takes place between consulting adults then I dont think there is anything wrong with it. Dont like it dont watch it.
People dont become janitors because they "want to do gross stuff" its often born out of necessity. People dont become pornstars through necessity. Most of them do it because they love having sex, they look amazing and can get paid for doing both.
It sounds to me like you find sex a "gross thing" and thats your problem, not pornography.
Really? Go ask a random dude if he would suck a dick for $5000, and the first thing he'll say is "no way dude, that's freaking gross." Ask a random woman how much money she'd need to get paid in order to let two strangers nail her at the same time, and she'll say "eww, gross." Just like plumbers and garbage men, people look at porn workers as "I'm glad someone's doing it, but I'd never do it myself because that's fucking disgusting." People like to watch, but they think the ones who do it are disgusting.
And you have a warped view of janitors and pornographers. Sure, most janitors would ideally like to do something else, but it's not like that's literally the only thing they could get. They could be fry cooks or Wal-Mart greeters if they wanted to. Go actually talk to some janitors and a common thing you'll hear is that while the job kind of sucks, there are definitely fulfilling things about it.
And as far as porn stars go, are you freaking kidding me? Whether they like sex or not, it's still a freaking job and jobs require doing stuff you don't want to do. Just because they like sex doesn't mean they like getting three loads blown on their faces at the same time. Just because they like sex doesn't mean they want to have sex with everyone. The job still requires having sex with people they don't want to have sex with, it requires doing things they don't want to do. Look at the sheer number of porn stars who started out aspiring to be serious actors, and then settled on porn either because the pay was better and/or because they don't really have the talent to make it as actors. You ever notice how many porn stars are actually immigrants, often from poor eastern European countries? You ever notice how rampant drug addiction is within the porn industry? I'm not saying that all pornographers are miserable, but those are signs that you're looking at a field of work in which there's a fair amount of unhappiness going on. Do you know who else has sex for money? Hookers. Straight up prostitutes. And while I'm sure there are prostitutes who enjoy their jobs on some level, are you honestly telling me with a straight face that most of them were like, "I want to be a hooker when I grow up"?
Well regarding your first point, pornstars dont suck or **** anything they dont want to suck or ****...its not forced manual labor here. Its two consenting adults partaking in sexual acts that are agreed upon before they take place....not a case of offering random people on the street money to do things as you suggest. You also seem so convinced that people look at pornstars and judge them negatively... I know lots of guys who wouldnt want to take a pornstar home to meet their mothers, but I do not know many guys who would describe them as disgusting.
I dont have a warped view of anyone. I said most janitors take jobs like that through neccessity rather than desire, most pornstars do porn because they enjoy the act of sex and they enjoy the money. I am sure there are plenty of janitors who love and hate their jobs but that was not my point. My point was trying to make YOU aware that the comparison YOU made was stupid.
he job doesnt require having sex with people they dont want to. Any reputable pornographic production is very clear about what takes place with whom, the participants are checked for STI's and are under absoutely no obligation to have sex with somebody if they do not desire due to a little thing called "the law". Whether these women getting fucked on camera for a living wanted to be movie stars and settled into porn is neither here nor there. Its their choice, their free will and certainly not a reason to look down upon them.
The topic was regarding why pornstars are looked down upon and so far the only argument you have provided is "because its disgusting". They clearly have other options as you admit yourself, they clearly are not being forced into it. You take issue with it because you find it disgusting, which is absolutely fine, Its your opinion and your entitled to it but these blanket statements and comparisons to prostitutes and janitors dont make sense to me. They are people doing what they want to do, being watched by millions of men and women who want to watch them do it.
I probably wouldnt marry a woman who spent 20 years in the porn industry either, but that's no reason to look down on the industry or those who work in it as disgusting people doing disgusting things through a lack of options as you suggest. That just shows plain ignorance. I have no doubt poor girls from far flung countries see porn as a way to escape, but its their brain, their bodies and a shared responsibility to make sure they are not abused. Its also an entirely separate topic of conversation.
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