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#1 megaspiderweb09
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Im not very clear on this, is it not supposed to be illegal to invade other countries sovereignty. Been seeing news bout drone strikes in pakistan n stuff.Also why are the american citizens ignoring these issues, is it because their homes are not the ones being invaded ot they are powerless to their govt decisions?

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#2 KC_Hokie
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Because we give Pakistan billions of dollars to shut up and take it up the rear.
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It's only illegal if they don't have oil.
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#4 AdamPA1006
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It's only illegal if they don't have oil. Fightingfan
I hate this argument what oil did we ever take from other countries? If we did is it helping us now?? Wheres the cheap oil???
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#5 THE_DRUGGIE
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Because there's no enforceable policy that says otherwise, but the country being invaded can fight back if they want.

Plus, the countries being invaded are chosen nowadays for having (or being accused of having) large amounts of terrorists that are not being rounded up. But really, any country can invade another country, it just depends on whether you're confident you'll win or not. There are UN sanctions for nations who negligently invade other countries, not to mention the guidelines for international conflict under the Geneva Conventions.

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#6 cslayer211
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A country can do what ever it wants. Legality regarding the United Nations is largely irrelevant (especially when the U.N. is basically the U.S. foreign military.)
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#7 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]It's only illegal if they don't have oil. AdamPA1006
I hate this argument what oil did we ever take from other countries? If we did is it helping us now?? Wheres the cheap oil???

America obviously has influence on the departure of middle eastern oil, there's no debating that; and money isn't worth anything now thanks to the Rothschild family printing money out of thin air.
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#8 THE_DRUGGIE
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By the way, here's what the US has agreed to in regards to rules of international conflict:

Protocol Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949, and relating to the Protection of Victims of International Armed Conflicts (Protocol I), 8 June 1977.

It's more about what happens during engagement in conflict than anything else when it comes to international law. Invading other countries lies on the sovereignty of the United States, mainly through the power of Congress to declare war and/or the ability of the executive to take initiative on war a la the War Powers Act.

Now you know.

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#9 LiquidAjax
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The real answer. Because if nobody intervenes in the middle east, they'll obtain nukes and destroy everything they can.
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#10 dercoo
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I find the concept of a "legal war" in an international sense almost as ridiculous as the UN.

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Because...

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Im not very clear on this, is it not supposed to be illegal to invade other countries sovereignty. Been seeing news bout drone strikes in pakistan n stuff.Also why are the american citizens ignoring these issues, is it because their homes are not the ones being invaded ot they are powerless to their govt decisions?

megaspiderweb09
It comes down to the US is a badass and can do whatever it wants. While it's not morally right, I doubt anyone in the US cares since those drone strikes are being done to make sure no one in the US has something happen to them down the road.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGQaH3-LK54

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGQaH3-LK54

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America pretend to want peace but they just want to be the power of the world but if China ever stopped letting USA take advantage of them and call in their debt, USA would crumple quicker than a deck of cards.
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America pretend to want peace but they just want to be the power of the world but if China ever stopped letting USA take advantage of them and call in their debt, USA would crumple quicker than a deck of cards.JohnF111
China can't just call in all the debt. Anyways that would destroy their economy too.
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Because it's their fault that some countries want to nuke Earth.

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#18 Shmiity
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Legal? Maybe unethical, or immoral- but can an entire country break a law? Seems silly.

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#19 VaguelyTagged
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because they find/make up excuses to do so.did iraq find one when they invaded kuwait for an instance? no.

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#20 cslayer211
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America pretend to want peace but they just want to be the power of the world but if China ever stopped letting USA take advantage of them and call in their debt, USA would crumple quicker than a deck of cards.JohnF111
America would survive because of the dollar. China would cease to exist if they did that.
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Imagine if Hezbollah in Iran had gotten nukes with the Taliban on one side and Hitler part II on the other.. Yeah, lots of very big booms all over the world.... You're welcome.
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Imagine if Hezbollah in Iran had gotten nukes with the Taliban on one side and Hitler part II on the other.. Yeah, lots of very big booms all over the world.... You're welcome.superclocked
Yea what a terrible thing if the Iranians nuke the Taliban.
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]It's only illegal if they don't have oil. AdamPA1006
I hate this argument what oil did we ever take from other countries? If we did is it helping us now?? Wheres the cheap oil???



It's government thing... people with power will never be good to you.

They have that oil...
But they will never sell it cheap. :)

That's how politics work...
You work for them.

SLAVERY... around the world.

I sometimes wish I was born in some tribe, far away from civilisation, Tax free... (soon probably they're going to tax their asses too...)

A question:

Which of the Animals on this planet is the most stupid one?
We are... only we are working to live.

Since we are intelligent... why are all of these people around the planet make it worse to live your life instead of making it less complicated?
Oh I forgot... Greed.

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[QUOTE="JohnF111"]America pretend to want peace but they just want to be the power of the world but if China ever stopped letting USA take advantage of them and call in their debt, USA would crumple quicker than a deck of cards.Person0
China can't just call in all the debt. Anyways that would destroy their economy too.

I don't think America even has an obligation to pay them back, I doubt they could do anything if America refused to pay.
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When you are the global hegemon in an anarchic system then you can do a lot of things...

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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]It's only illegal if they don't have oil. AdamPA1006
I hate this argument what oil did we ever take from other countries? If we did is it helping us now?? Wheres the cheap oil???

You're correct. Oil was not the motivation. If the US wanted oil, Saddam Hussein was more than willing to sell oil to the USA...

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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]It's only illegal if they don't have oil. AdamPA1006
I hate this argument what oil did we ever take from other countries? If we did is it helping us now?? Wheres the cheap oil???

Okay then give us a better one?

If they didn't have natural resources that we depend on and were not to weak to defend themselves we would not be there.

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[QUOTE="superclocked"]Imagine if Hezbollah in Iran had gotten nukes with the Taliban on one side and Hitler part II on the other.. Yeah, lots of very big booms all over the world.... You're welcome.KC_Hokie
Yea what a terrible thing if the Iranians nuke the Taliban.

You're missing the point. Iran likely would've had nukes by now, and they most certainly would've fallen into terrorist hands at some point. And there would've been no shortage of buyers on all sides....
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[QUOTE="superclocked"]Imagine if Hezbollah in Iran had gotten nukes with the Taliban on one side and Hitler part II on the other.. Yeah, lots of very big booms all over the world.... You're welcome.superclocked
You're missing the point. Iran likely would've had nukes by now, and they most certainly would've fallen into terrorist hands at some point. And there would've been no shortage of buyers on all sides....

Everyone said the same thing when North Korea and Pakistan were creating nukes. Iran doesn't have a history of being that irrational.
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="superclocked"]Imagine if Hezbollah in Iran had gotten nukes with the Taliban on one side and Hitler part II on the other.. Yeah, lots of very big booms all over the world.... You're welcome.superclocked
Yea what a terrible thing if the Iranians nuke the Taliban.

You're missing the point. Iran likely would've had nukes by now, and they most certainly would've fallen into terrorist hands at some point. And there would've been no shortage of buyers on all sides....

Why would the Iranians have had nukes by now?
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[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="superclocked"]Imagine if Hezbollah in Iran had gotten nukes with the Taliban on one side and Hitler part II on the other.. Yeah, lots of very big booms all over the world.... You're welcome.KC_Hokie
You're missing the point. Iran likely would've had nukes by now, and they most certainly would've fallen into terrorist hands at some point. And there would've been no shortage of buyers on all sides....

Everyone said the same thing when North Korea and Pakistan were creating nukes. Iran doesn't have a history of being that irrational.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2010/07/reports-bolster-suspicion-of-iranian-ties-to-extremists.html "Cooperation among Iran, al Qaeda and other Sunni extremist groups is more extensive than previously known to the public, according to details buried in the tens of thousands of military intelligence documents released by an independent group Sunday. U.S. officials and Middle East analysts said some of the most explosive information contained in the WikiLeaks documents detail Iran's alleged ties to the Taliban and al Qaeda, and the facilitating role Tehran may have played in providing arms from sources as varied as North Korea and Algeria. The officials have for years received reports of Iran smuggling arms to the Taliban. The WikiLeaks documents, however, appear to give new evidence of direct contacts between Iranian officials and the Taliban's and al Qaeda's senior leadership. It also outlines Iran's alleged role in brokering arms deals between North Korea and Pakistan-based militants, particularly militant leader Gulbuddin Hekmatyar and al Qaeda."
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="superclocked"]You're missing the point. Iran likely would've had nukes by now, and they most certainly would've fallen into terrorist hands at some point. And there would've been no shortage of buyers on all sides....superclocked
Everyone said the same thing when North Korea and Pakistan were creating nukes. Iran doesn't have a history of being that irrational.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2010/07/reports-bolster-suspicion-of-iranian-ties-to-extremists.html "Cooperation among Iran, al Qaeda and other Sunni extremist groups is more extensive than previously known to the public, according to details buried in the tens of thousands of military intelligence documents released by an independent group Sunday. U.S. officials and Middle East analysts said some of the most explosive information contained in the WikiLeaks documents detail Iran's alleged ties to the Taliban and al Qaeda, and the facilitating role Tehran may have played in providing arms from sources as varied as North Korea and Algeria. The officials have for years received reports of Iran smuggling arms to the Taliban. The WikiLeaks documents, however, appear to give new evidence of direct contacts between Iranian officials and the Taliban's and al Qaeda's senior leadership. It also outlines Iran's alleged role in brokering arms deals between North Korea and Pakistan-based militants, particularly militant leader Gulbuddin Hekmatyar and al Qaeda."

Because supplying small arms are the same as giving nukes away?

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="superclocked"]You're missing the point. Iran likely would've had nukes by now, and they most certainly would've fallen into terrorist hands at some point. And there would've been no shortage of buyers on all sides....superclocked
Everyone said the same thing when North Korea and Pakistan were creating nukes. Iran doesn't have a history of being that irrational.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2010/07/reports-bolster-suspicion-of-iranian-ties-to-extremists.html "Cooperation among Iran, al Qaeda and other Sunni extremist groups is more extensive than previously known to the public, according to details buried in the tens of thousands of military intelligence documents released by an independent group Sunday. U.S. officials and Middle East analysts said some of the most explosive information contained in the WikiLeaks documents detail Iran's alleged ties to the Taliban and al Qaeda, and the facilitating role Tehran may have played in providing arms from sources as varied as North Korea and Algeria. The officials have for years received reports of Iran smuggling arms to the Taliban. The WikiLeaks documents, however, appear to give new evidence of direct contacts between Iranian officials and the Taliban's and al Qaeda's senior leadership. It also outlines Iran's alleged role in brokering arms deals between North Korea and Pakistan-based militants, particularly militant leader Gulbuddin Hekmatyar and al Qaeda."

Giving arms to groups in proxy wars isn't irrational. All countries do that.
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Imagine if Hezbollah in Iran had gotten nukes with the Taliban on one side and Hitler part II on the other.. Yeah, lots of very big booms all over the world.... You're welcome.superclocked
and it wouldn't be any loss to us.
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="superclocked"]You're missing the point. Iran likely would've had nukes by now, and they most certainly would've fallen into terrorist hands at some point. And there would've been no shortage of buyers on all sides....superclocked
Everyone said the same thing when North Korea and Pakistan were creating nukes. Iran doesn't have a history of being that irrational.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2010/07/reports-bolster-suspicion-of-iranian-ties-to-extremists.html "Cooperation among Iran, al Qaeda and other Sunni extremist groups is more extensive than previously known to the public, according to details buried in the tens of thousands of military intelligence documents released by an independent group Sunday. U.S. officials and Middle East analysts said some of the most explosive information contained in the WikiLeaks documents detail Iran's alleged ties to the Taliban and al Qaeda, and the facilitating role Tehran may have played in providing arms from sources as varied as North Korea and Algeria. The officials have for years received reports of Iran smuggling arms to the Taliban. The WikiLeaks documents, however, appear to give new evidence of direct contacts between Iranian officials and the Taliban's and al Qaeda's senior leadership. It also outlines Iran's alleged role in brokering arms deals between North Korea and Pakistan-based militants, particularly militant leader Gulbuddin Hekmatyar and al Qaeda."


Okay we are no better then Iran. The CIA funded and trained Osama Bin Laden.

CIA created Al-Qaeda and Gave $3 Billion Dollars to Osama Bin Laden

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[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Everyone said the same thing when North Korea and Pakistan were creating nukes. Iran doesn't have a history of being that irrational. Person0

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2010/07/reports-bolster-suspicion-of-iranian-ties-to-extremists.html "Cooperation among Iran, al Qaeda and other Sunni extremist groups is more extensive than previously known to the public, according to details buried in the tens of thousands of military intelligence documents released by an independent group Sunday. U.S. officials and Middle East analysts said some of the most explosive information contained in the WikiLeaks documents detail Iran's alleged ties to the Taliban and al Qaeda, and the facilitating role Tehran may have played in providing arms from sources as varied as North Korea and Algeria. The officials have for years received reports of Iran smuggling arms to the Taliban. The WikiLeaks documents, however, appear to give new evidence of direct contacts between Iranian officials and the Taliban's and al Qaeda's senior leadership. It also outlines Iran's alleged role in brokering arms deals between North Korea and Pakistan-based militants, particularly militant leader Gulbuddin Hekmatyar and al Qaeda."

Because supplying small arms are the same as giving nukes away?

They've been chanting "Death to America" for a very long time... I remember seeing videos when I was a kid that were snuck out of Iran of them chanting the same thing...
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[QUOTE="Person0"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"]http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2010/07/reports-bolster-suspicion-of-iranian-ties-to-extremists.html "Cooperation among Iran, al Qaeda and other Sunni extremist groups is more extensive than previously known to the public, according to details buried in the tens of thousands of military intelligence documents released by an independent group Sunday. U.S. officials and Middle East analysts said some of the most explosive information contained in the WikiLeaks documents detail Iran's alleged ties to the Taliban and al Qaeda, and the facilitating role Tehran may have played in providing arms from sources as varied as North Korea and Algeria. The officials have for years received reports of Iran smuggling arms to the Taliban. The WikiLeaks documents, however, appear to give new evidence of direct contacts between Iranian officials and the Taliban's and al Qaeda's senior leadership. It also outlines Iran's alleged role in brokering arms deals between North Korea and Pakistan-based militants, particularly militant leader Gulbuddin Hekmatyar and al Qaeda."superclocked

Because supplying small arms are the same as giving nukes away?

They've been chanting "Death to America" for a very long time... I remember seeing videos when I was a kid that were snuck out of Iran of them chanting the same thing...

And yet they haven't done anything irrational or aggressive towards us. And we have bases all throughout that area.
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[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Everyone said the same thing when North Korea and Pakistan were creating nukes. Iran doesn't have a history of being that irrational. -Renegade

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2010/07/reports-bolster-suspicion-of-iranian-ties-to-extremists.html "Cooperation among Iran, al Qaeda and other Sunni extremist groups is more extensive than previously known to the public, according to details buried in the tens of thousands of military intelligence documents released by an independent group Sunday. U.S. officials and Middle East analysts said some of the most explosive information contained in the WikiLeaks documents detail Iran's alleged ties to the Taliban and al Qaeda, and the facilitating role Tehran may have played in providing arms from sources as varied as North Korea and Algeria. The officials have for years received reports of Iran smuggling arms to the Taliban. The WikiLeaks documents, however, appear to give new evidence of direct contacts between Iranian officials and the Taliban's and al Qaeda's senior leadership. It also outlines Iran's alleged role in brokering arms deals between North Korea and Pakistan-based militants, particularly militant leader Gulbuddin Hekmatyar and al Qaeda."


Okay we are no better then Iran. The CIA funded and trained Osama Bin Laden.

CIA created Al-Qaeda and Gave $3 Billion Dollars to Osama Bin Laden

Yes, to fight the russians. It was definitely a stupid move that came back to bite the US in the ass. And unfortunately, similar things are going on as we speak. At some point the CIA needs to decide to keep the evil that they know rather than use the old credo, "the enemy of our enemy is our friend..."
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[QUOTE="Person0"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"]http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2010/07/reports-bolster-suspicion-of-iranian-ties-to-extremists.html "Cooperation among Iran, al Qaeda and other Sunni extremist groups is more extensive than previously known to the public, according to details buried in the tens of thousands of military intelligence documents released by an independent group Sunday. U.S. officials and Middle East analysts said some of the most explosive information contained in the WikiLeaks documents detail Iran's alleged ties to the Taliban and al Qaeda, and the facilitating role Tehran may have played in providing arms from sources as varied as North Korea and Algeria. The officials have for years received reports of Iran smuggling arms to the Taliban. The WikiLeaks documents, however, appear to give new evidence of direct contacts between Iranian officials and the Taliban's and al Qaeda's senior leadership. It also outlines Iran's alleged role in brokering arms deals between North Korea and Pakistan-based militants, particularly militant leader Gulbuddin Hekmatyar and al Qaeda."superclocked

Because supplying small arms are the same as giving nukes away?

They've been chanting "Death to America" for a very long time... I remember seeing videos when I was a kid that were snuck out of Iran of them chanting the same thing...

And we have been talking about attacking Iran and Iran being part of the axis of evil for a decade.

Its funny how we always need an enemy to be fighting against.

From the 50's-80's it was the evil Russians that are going to murder us all.

90's-00's it was a bunch of smaller things

00's-now Terrorists/Taliban/Saddam

Now-future Iran. The terrorists have mostly been neutralized so now we need a new threat for people to be scared of. Iran likes it too since when an enemy is talking about how they will attack you the Iranains will support their government more.

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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"]http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2010/07/reports-bolster-suspicion-of-iranian-ties-to-extremists.html "Cooperation among Iran, al Qaeda and other Sunni extremist groups is more extensive than previously known to the public, according to details buried in the tens of thousands of military intelligence documents released by an independent group Sunday. U.S. officials and Middle East analysts said some of the most explosive information contained in the WikiLeaks documents detail Iran's alleged ties to the Taliban and al Qaeda, and the facilitating role Tehran may have played in providing arms from sources as varied as North Korea and Algeria. The officials have for years received reports of Iran smuggling arms to the Taliban. The WikiLeaks documents, however, appear to give new evidence of direct contacts between Iranian officials and the Taliban's and al Qaeda's senior leadership. It also outlines Iran's alleged role in brokering arms deals between North Korea and Pakistan-based militants, particularly militant leader Gulbuddin Hekmatyar and al Qaeda."superclocked


Okay we are no better then Iran. The CIA funded and trained Osama Bin Laden.

CIA created Al-Qaeda and Gave $3 Billion Dollars to Osama Bin Laden

Yes, to fight the russians. It was definitely a stupid move that came back to bite the US in the ass. And unfortunately, similar things are going on as we speak. At some point the CIA needs to decide to keep the evil that they know rather than use the old credo, "the enemy of our enemy is our friend..."

The New York Times just recently broke a story where the U.S. is supplying weapons via Saudi Arabia that are ending up in the hands of Al-Qaeda, Jihadists and Salafists in Syria.
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#41 TheWalkingGhost
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This thread seems to pop up 10 times a year.
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]It's only illegal if they don't have oil. AdamPA1006
I hate this argument what oil did we ever take from other countries? If we did is it helping us now?? Wheres the cheap oil???

The oil was not for the people of the US, it was for oil companies who want access to the fields.
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#43 superclocked
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[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="Person0"] Because supplying small arms are the same as giving nukes away?Person0
They've been chanting "Death to America" for a very long time... I remember seeing videos when I was a kid that were snuck out of Iran of them chanting the same thing...

And we have been talking about attacking Iran and Iran being part of the axis of evil for a decade.

A government is a large body of people that are largely ungoverned. And there are groups of individuals in the Middle East that want to wipe out all people that aren't muslim that have infiltrated nearly every government over there. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that what the US did was right. The CIA knew that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction, but Bush and Rumsfeld chose to believe what Iran was saying. Iran claimed that Iraq did indeed have weapons of mass destruction. And there was also a revenge element to the Iraq war from Bush due to the attempt on his fathers life by Saddam. There is just too much that I, nor anyone else will ever know about the wars in the Middle East.. But anyway, I just came in here to stir the pot a bit really and get some nice debates going while I wait on the game. Keep the opinions coming :)
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#44 coolbeans90
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Because there's no enforceable policy that says otherwise, but the country being invaded can fight back if they want.

THE_DRUGGIE

LOL

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#45 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"]It's only illegal if they don't have oil. BossPerson
I hate this argument what oil did we ever take from other countries? If we did is it helping us now?? Wheres the cheap oil???

The oil was not for the people of the US, it was for oil companies who want access to the fields.

ROFL

a bloody ten percent of it.

get a new theory.

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Also, I have to put this out there.. Best Family Guy moment ever...
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[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"]It's only illegal if they don't have oil. BossPerson
I hate this argument what oil did we ever take from other countries? If we did is it helping us now?? Wheres the cheap oil???

The oil was not for the people of the US, it was for oil companies who want access to the fields.

LMAO.

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Im fairly certain the US gets permission from the country that drones are being used in, perhaps excluding recon/surveillance missions. Im not sure how invading a country could be illegal aside from US congressional approval. Only congress can technically stop the US from going to war but the US usually goes through the UN so it can get support from its allies. Congress also signs the NDAA every year which essentially streamlines military decisions/actions to generals, the president etc.
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]It's only illegal if they don't have oil. AdamPA1006
I hate this argument what oil did we ever take from other countries? If we did is it helping us now?? Wheres the cheap oil???

lol, you're assuming US foreign policy is intended to benefit the US public. As opposed to the puppetmasters and friends of the administration, companies like Haliburton etc.

There's a whole industry of think tanks and policy institutes involved in cooking up with new threats and new enemies for the US to justify the disproportionate and wildly out-of-control 'defense' spending. It's a lot easier to explain when 'we've got a war to win'.

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#50 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="AdamPA1006"] I hate this argument what oil did we ever take from other countries? If we did is it helping us now?? Wheres the cheap oil???coolbeans90

The oil was not for the people of the US, it was for oil companies who want access to the fields.

ROFL

a bloody ten percent of it.

get a new theory.

right...spreading democracy is a sound theory? the military industrial complex is non-existent?