Why hasn't Gitmo bay not been closed?

From what I have seen it has largely been voted against for closing Gitmo.. Seriously why are people so crazy over not having these people in the United States maximum security prison.. Do they realize that there has never been a escape from such a modern day prison? I mean people seem not to have a problem with mass murders in prisons in the US, extremely dangerous gang members etc etc.. What makes these guys so different? They arn't.. Thoughts? To me Gitmo has created a greater negative effect to be the figure head (along with stuff like Abu Gharib incident) for hatred from the Middle East, and really the rest of the world.

I'm not worried about them escaping...I'm worried about bringing them to America where they will be granted the legal rights of a citizen. And since they weren't read their miranda rights with the US military 'arrested' them, they will be acquitted.FragStains

[QUOTE="FragStains"]I'm not worried about them escaping...I'm worried about bringing them to America where they will be granted the legal rights of a citizen. And since they weren't read their miranda rights with the US military 'arrested' them, they will be acquitted.killtactics

[QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="FragStains"]I'm not worried about them escaping...I'm worried about bringing them to America where they will be granted the legal rights of a citizen. And since they weren't read their miranda rights with the US military 'arrested' them, they will be acquitted.FragStains

I'm not worried about them escaping...I'm worried about bringing them to America where they will be granted the legal rights of a citizen. And since they weren't read their miranda rights with the US military 'arrested' them, they will be acquitted.FragStains

[QUOTE="FragStains"][QUOTE="killtactics"]So your worried about giving humans rights? sSubZerOo

Why hasnt Gitmo been closed?

Problably because the idea wasnt seriously considered until a few months ago. Things like that take time to do, add to that political pressure and BS talking and it will problably be a while.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="FragStains"]No...granting a U.S. citizen's legal rights to a non-U.S. citizen is. FragStains

Because obviously Cuba should have to deal with our problems. They don't have enough of their own. That seems to be the general argument I'm hearing from politicians: "We don't want them here." Apparently the Cuban citizenry loves having them there?

I'm not worried about them escaping...I'm worried about bringing them to America where they will be granted the legal rights of a citizen. And since they weren't read their miranda rights with the US military 'arrested' them, they will be acquitted.FragStains

I'm pretty sure that doesn't apply to threats of national security.

Because Obama only promised to close Gitmo to get elected. He's not going to close Gitmo.

Obama doesn't want to close Gitmo.

Like every politician he promised something he had absolutely no intention of doing. In 4 years that military base will still be active.

[QUOTE="FragStains"]I'm not worried about them escaping...I'm worried about bringing them to America where they will be granted the legal rights of a citizen. And since they weren't read their miranda rights with the US military 'arrested' them, they will be acquitted.LJS9502_basic

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[QUOTE="FragStains"]I'm not worried about them escaping...I'm worried about bringing them to America where they will be granted the legal rights of a citizen. And since they weren't read their miranda rights with the US military 'arrested' them, they will be acquitted.FragStains

Not exactly. You're given certain rights, but you aren't fully protected by the US Constitution.

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[QUOTE="FragStains"]I'm not worried about them escaping...I'm worried about bringing them to America where they will be granted the legal rights of a citizen. And since they weren't read their miranda rights with the US military 'arrested' them, they will be acquitted.FragStains

I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't want to put terrorists in the fertile recruiting grounds of US prisons. Just keep Gitmo open.amob

Who said we have to put them there?

We have the power to move them to other countries. Countries where there are fewer protesters, and even fewer restraints on what we can do to them.
Even if you close down Gitmo, the US can still move prisoners around the globe, to prisons you've never even heard of, and do bad things to them there.

So, even if we close Gitmo, what Gitmo is will still be around. Anyone the government considers as a prisoner holding valuable information, that they think they can extract, they will do whatever it takes to get that information.

They don't even have to do it themselves. They can fully remove the person from the US and have someone else do it for them.

redundant

I say keep it open with a new rule: send prisoners in the US over there. There's complaints about over crowding in the prisons and now they want to close Gitmo? Lolz...

i would rather have GITMO Bay open instead of having high profile criminals in our prisons they should at least be sent back to their homeland prison but hey that's just me

they all deserve a freakin trial.12Bullets

[QUOTE="12Bullets"]they all deserve a freakin trial.XD4NTESINF3RNOX

[QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"][QUOTE="12Bullets"]they all deserve a freakin trial.12Bullets

they are most likely guilty that's why most of them are in gitmo they wouldn't throw you in there without reason but whatever we should just put more criminals in our prisons that sounds like a great idea

[QUOTE="12Bullets"][QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"] are you serious? you know these territory have committed crimes right? XD4NTESINF3RNOX

I live right next to a Supermax prison full of drug dealers, murderers, rapist and other unsavory individuals.

I'll tell you what, I don't feel safe now knowing that terrorist might be housed there now. Time to stimulate the local economy and buy a gun!

They won't close it until the contract runs out...which I believe is 2012, ironically enough.Jigsaw_McGraw

[QUOTE="amob"]I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't want to put terrorists in the fertile recruiting grounds of US prisons. Just keep Gitmo open.-TheSecondSign-

Who said we have to put them there?

We have the power to move them to other countries. Countries where there are fewer protesters, and even fewer restraints on what we can do to them.
Even if you close down Gitmo, the US can still move prisoners around the globe, to prisons you've never even heard of, and do bad things to them there.

So, even if we close Gitmo, what Gitmo is will still be around. Anyone the government considers as a prisoner holding valuable information, that they think they can extract, they will do whatever it takes to get that information.

They don't even have to do it themselves. They can fully remove the person from the US and have someone else do it for them.