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#101 dragonmaster64
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in the video when the girl said adios and the judge acted on it, that was his mistake, he is not fit to be a judge.
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#102 pie-junior
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in the video when the girl said adios and the judge acted on it, that was his mistake, he is not fit to be a judge.dragonmaster64
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#103 dragonmaster64
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[QUOTE="dragonmaster64"]in the video when the girl said adios and the judge acted on it, that was his mistake, he is not fit to be a judge.pie-junior
why

if you cant see it then clearly there is an intellectual barrier in this conversation.
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#104 pie-junior
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[QUOTE="pie-junior"][QUOTE="dragonmaster64"]in the video when the girl said adios and the judge acted on it, that was his mistake, he is not fit to be a judge.dragonmaster64
why

if you cant see it then clearly there is an intellectual barrier in this conversation.

An intellectual barrier in the form of you not managing to articulate your reasons, like, at all? well yea but I am a patient guy. right now.
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#105 MrPraline
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[QUOTE="pie-junior"][QUOTE="dragonmaster64"]in the video when the girl said adios and the judge acted on it, that was his mistake, he is not fit to be a judge.dragonmaster64
why

if you cant see it then clearly there is an intellectual barrier in this conversation.

rofl, while I agree that the judge is a c*nt, be careful with the fights you pick
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#106 poptart
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[QUOTE="pie-junior"][QUOTE="dragonmaster64"]in the video when the girl said adios and the judge acted on it, that was his mistake, he is not fit to be a judge.dragonmaster64
why

if you cant see it then clearly there is an intellectual barrier in this conversation.

If I was a kid getting a right telling off by my dad for being a little sh!t, and just started laughing, the chances are he's going to give me a right fuking hiding and I'd be careful about doing the same thing again. She acted like a kid - the judge treated her like one, with the hope that outcome to the above will be the same. If the judge's role is to instill a sense of remorse and ensure individuals don't reoffend then his response may be justified. Whether or not punishment actually works though is for another thread. But anyway. Heyho.

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#107 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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Is this in refernce to that girl who gave the judge the middle finger and got 90 days in jail?

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#108 dragonmaster64
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[QUOTE="pie-junior"][QUOTE="dragonmaster64"][QUOTE="pie-junior"] why

if you cant see it then clearly there is an intellectual barrier in this conversation.

An intellectual barrier in the form of you not managing to articulate your reasons, like, at all? well yea but I am a patient guy. right now.

yea good luck with that.
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#109 Lord_Omikron666
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Because there's this thing called contempt of court

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#110 BlackHawk340
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[QUOTE="BlackHawk340"]

Punishments should be decided on what and how bad the crime was not on how someone acts in court.
The fact the judge punished the girl for how she acts made it clear hes not fit to be judge anymore.

They should always be neutral even if the person in the stands is a total douche.

ad1x2

Going by that theory you should make no effort to dress up or be respectful during a job interview since your credentials should speak for itself.

2 things that have nothing in common, the judge doesnt have to hire this girl to stand and represent his company.

BUT not hiring someone by their looks is forbidden by law, they usually make up soem excuse  because its uncontitutional to decline someone on their looks.

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#111 Rattlesnake_8
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You should be respectful everywhere.. it's just some people are rude and don't know what respect is.
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#112 BlackHawk340
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Also if you where in court for robbing soemone.

You know you are innocent but prosecutor keep pushing, you lose your temper "I did not fkn do it!" can happen to any man is a tight spot.
Or this when you get arrested, "I didnt fkn do anything!"

Later that day video is released and sure enough youa re innocent, but but but because you lost your temper the judge still confies you to 30 days of cell because nothing, he didnt like you.

Do you think thats fair? Being judged for something outside of what you re in for.

Well he didnt commit the murder but I dotn like his shoelaces, 5 months of detention!

 

Hard to explain english is not my primary language :D

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#113 chaoscougar1
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[QUOTE="dragonmaster64"] justice should be the law void of emotions..etc. If you believe in God in a sense easier to explain as God is the true judge, and justice stems from him.

lol
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#114 nooblet69
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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="dragonmaster64"] justice should be the law void of emotions..etc. If you believe in God in a sense easier to explain as God is the true judge, and justice stems from him.

lol

Gifs in your sig are exciting @_@.
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#115 GreekGameManiac
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I never understood why we have to be respectful in court. like noone enforces you to be respectful in public but when in court its a whole different story. this judge is just a human, he is not God. so i dont understand.

I am also a believer in God, and his teaching "Have mercy on others so God may have mercy on you" I watched alot of judge videos (pretty much the unfair ones that OT posts) where they give harsh judgements and is unfair.

so what do you think?

 

EDIT: You are all mis understanding my point, what im really saying is that it seems whether your respectful or not affects your sentence. When justice should just be justice no emotions, sentiments anything...

i am reffering to that video where she particularly said adios, then he raised her sentence. There should be nothing nothing wrong with that.

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#116 chaoscougar1
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[QUOTE="nooblet69"][QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="dragonmaster64"] justice should be the law void of emotions..etc. If you believe in God in a sense easier to explain as God is the true judge, and justice stems from him.

lol

Gifs in your sig are exciting @_@.

That's the idea ;D
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#117 th3warr1or
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You could have asked this question in the thread about where you got the idea to ask in the first place. But to answer your question. If you're suspected of doing something, why would you not be anything but respectful and hope to convince the judge to lessen or nullify the sentence. Does that even need some explanation? DevilMightCry
But what if you really are innocent? It's not easy to be patient when you're accused of something you didn't do.
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#118 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="ad1x2"][QUOTE="BlackHawk340"]

Punishments should be decided on what and how bad the crime was not on how someone acts in court.
The fact the judge punished the girl for how she acts made it clear hes not fit to be judge anymore.

They should always be neutral even if the person in the stands is a total douche.

BlackHawk340

Going by that theory you should make no effort to dress up or be respectful during a job interview since your credentials should speak for itself.

2 things that have nothing in common, the judge doesnt have to hire this girl to stand and represent his company.

BUT not hiring someone by their looks is forbidden by law, they usually make up soem excuse  because its uncontitutional to decline someone on their looks.

No it's not forbidden by law to get appearance into the equation. You cannot discriminate under law certain protected classes and use that as the determinate. But nothing in the law says I have to hire you when you come in dirty to a job interview. Nor do I have to hire you if you appear as a dishonest individual to me.
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#119 VanDammFan
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OP I see you are a level 53..but that dont mean you are an adult..OR even a respectful adult..so im going to say you are under 30 prob under 25..MOST young people feel they dont have to be respectful to anyone anywhere anymore..its called respect..and actually when the judges tells you to be respectful its the law at that point...dont listen and get thrown in jail,fined,ect..

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#120 LJS9502_basic
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OP I see you are a level 53..but that dont mean you are an adult..OR even a respectful adult..so im going to say you are under 30 prob under 25..MOST young people feel they dont have to be respectful to anyone anywhere anymore..its called respect..and actually when the judges tells you to be respectful its the law at that point...dont listen and get thrown in jail,fined,ect..

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Something they should learn.....respect the position.....not the man. So while you might run into someone with authority that is a total tool.....his position will still demand respect....particularly if he can hire/fire, arrest/fine you etc.
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#121 dragonmaster64
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OP I see you are a level 53..but that dont mean you are an adult..OR even a respectful adult..so im going to say you are under 30 prob under 25..MOST young people feel they dont have to be respectful to anyone anywhere anymore..its called respect..and actually when the judges tells you to be respectful its the law at that point...dont listen and get thrown in jail,fined,ect..

VanDammFan
i stopped reading when i read this. " I see you are a level 53..but that dont mean you are an adult" please leave your stupidity at home.
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#122 dave123321
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[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

OP I see you are a level 53..but that dont mean you are an adult..OR even a respectful adult..so im going to say you are under 30 prob under 25..MOST young people feel they dont have to be respectful to anyone anywhere anymore..its called respect..and actually when the judges tells you to be respectful its the law at that point...dont listen and get thrown in jail,fined,ect..

dragonmaster64
i stopped reading when i read this. " I see you are a level 53..but that dont mean you are an adult" please leave your stupidity at home.

It was a bizarre thing to bring up.
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#123 dave123321
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[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

OP I see you are a level 53..but that dont mean you are an adult..OR even a respectful adult..so im going to say you are under 30 prob under 25..MOST young people feel they dont have to be respectful to anyone anywhere anymore..its called respect..and actually when the judges tells you to be respectful its the law at that point...dont listen and get thrown in jail,fined,ect..

LJS9502_basic
Something they should learn.....respect the position.....not the man. So while you might run into someone with authority that is a total tool.....his position will still demand respect....particularly if he can hire/fire, arrest/fine you etc.

Mhm I agree. You have to go along with stuff that you may not like. My original thoughts
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#124 bnarmz
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[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

OP I see you are a level 53..but that dont mean you are an adult..OR even a respectful adult..so im going to say you are under 30 prob under 25..MOST young people feel they dont have to be respectful to anyone anywhere anymore..its called respect..and actually when the judges tells you to be respectful its the law at that point...dont listen and get thrown in jail,fined,ect..

LJS9502_basic

Something they should learn.....respect the position.....not the man. So while you might run into someone with authority that is a total tool.....his position will still demand respect....particularly if he can hire/fire, arrest/fine you etc.

 

as you said in another thread....respect is earned. As often very few in these positions deserve respect because they dont exhibit it themselves. Many of them feel entitled and often abuse that position....so whats a guy to do in that sitution...just bow down? 

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#125 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

OP I see you are a level 53..but that dont mean you are an adult..OR even a respectful adult..so im going to say you are under 30 prob under 25..MOST young people feel they dont have to be respectful to anyone anywhere anymore..its called respect..and actually when the judges tells you to be respectful its the law at that point...dont listen and get thrown in jail,fined,ect..

bnarmz

Something they should learn.....respect the position.....not the man. So while you might run into someone with authority that is a total tool.....his position will still demand respect....particularly if he can hire/fire, arrest/fine you etc.

 

as you said in another thread....respect is earned. As often very few in these positions deserve respect because they dont exhibit it themselves. Many of them feel entitled and often abuse that position....so whats a guy to do in that sitution...just bow down? 

It is a court of law, it does not need to earn your respect.

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#126 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

OP I see you are a level 53..but that dont mean you are an adult..OR even a respectful adult..so im going to say you are under 30 prob under 25..MOST young people feel they dont have to be respectful to anyone anywhere anymore..its called respect..and actually when the judges tells you to be respectful its the law at that point...dont listen and get thrown in jail,fined,ect..

bnarmz

Something they should learn.....respect the position.....not the man. So while you might run into someone with authority that is a total tool.....his position will still demand respect....particularly if he can hire/fire, arrest/fine you etc.

 

as you said in another thread....respect is earned. As often very few in these positions deserve respect because they dont exhibit it themselves. Many of them feel entitled and often abuse that position....so whats a guy to do in that sitution...just bow down? 

  You confuse the individual with the position. Totally different dude....

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#127 bnarmz
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actually, there are ways to get a judge fired if they dont respect you or your rights. people have more power than they show because most of them don't relize that the system is there to serve us not serve the system. No one owns anyone nor does anyone in the court has the right to treat you anyway they want.

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#128 LJS9502_basic
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actually, there are ways to get a judge fired if they dont respect you or your rights. people have more power than they show because most of them don't relize that the system is there to serve us not serve the system. No one owns anyone nor does anyone in the court has the right to treat you anyway they want.

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Nor can an individual act disrespectfully in court.....
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#132 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

OP I see you are a level 53..but that dont mean you are an adult..OR even a respectful adult..so im going to say you are under 30 prob under 25..MOST young people feel they dont have to be respectful to anyone anywhere anymore..its called respect..and actually when the judges tells you to be respectful its the law at that point...dont listen and get thrown in jail,fined,ect..

dragonmaster64

i stopped reading when i read this. " I see you are a level 53..but that dont mean you are an adult" please leave your stupidity at home.

No, you mean you stopped understanding when you tried to read that

Then you went off on another "fire bad!" rant

How old are you? I'm not even sure you can be posting here because there's an age 13 requirement and your questions are revealing that you're much younger.

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#133 dragonmaster64
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[QUOTE="BlackHawk340"]

Punishments should be decided on what and how bad the crime was not on how someone acts in court.
The fact the judge punished the girl for how she acts made it clear hes not fit to be judge anymore.

They should always be neutral even if the person in the stands is a total douche.

thegerg

"The fact the judge punished the girl for how she acts made it clear hes not fit to be judge anymore."

That's the dumbest thing I've ver heard. If someone acts in vilation of the law, why should they not be punished?

when she said "adios" that wasnt vilation of the law.... he simply got emotionlly and wanted to excercise his power.
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#134 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="thegerg"]

[QUOTE="BlackHawk340"]

Punishments should be decided on what and how bad the crime was not on how someone acts in court.
The fact the judge punished the girl for how she acts made it clear hes not fit to be judge anymore.

They should always be neutral even if the person in the stands is a total douche.

dragonmaster64

"The fact the judge punished the girl for how she acts made it clear hes not fit to be judge anymore."

That's the dumbest thing I've ver heard. If someone acts in vilation of the law, why should they not be punished?

when she said "adios" that wasnt vilation of the law.... he simply got emotionlly and wanted to excercise his power.

Grow up. She was disrespectful during the entire interview. Not sure why she didn't have an attorney with her....but she was no innocent. Judges don't take crap. So what.
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#137 FMAB_GTO
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This thread is sooo facepalm-y ;s
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#138 deactivated-59d151f079814
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SO your not held in contempt or given a far harsher penalty? Are people this stupid or dense? This is the same reason why your respectful of your boss, landlord etc etc.. Because they can dump your ass if your not.
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#140 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="dragonmaster64"] lol grow up? are you retarded? dragonmaster64
How old are you?

just know that im qualified.

:roll:

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#141 tenaka2
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This thread is sooo facepalm-y ;sFMAB_GTO

It is pretty awful, its up there with 'Why CAN'T I put my face next to the hungry lions jaws?'

 

I mean you can if you like, just don't be surprised if it gets eaten.

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#142 dave123321
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This thread is sooo facepalm-y ;sFMAB_GTO
mhm I agree. Lots of silliness.
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#143 mahlasor
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i think everyones missing the main point of the thread or didnt understand the main point.dragonmaster64

  Quoted for truth, I think it sort of those who are in favor of the status quo because it is convenient.  

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#145 FMAB_GTO
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[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"]This thread is sooo facepalm-y ;stenaka2

It is pretty awful, its up there with 'Why CAN'T I put my face next to the hungry lions jaws?'

 

I mean you can if you like, just don't be surprised if it gets eaten.

*giggles*
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#146 dave123321
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[QUOTE="dragonmaster64"]i think everyones missing the main point of the thread or didnt understand the main point.mahlasor

  Quoted for truth, I think it sort of those who are in favor of the status quo because it is convenient.  

What was the main point of this thread anyway?
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#147 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="dragonmaster64"][QUOTE="dave123321"] How old are you?

just know that im qualified.

To graduate middle school this year?
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#148 dragonmaster64
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[QUOTE="dragonmaster64"]i think everyones missing the main point of the thread or didnt understand the main point.mahlasor

  Quoted for truth, I think it sort of those who are in favor of the status quo because it is convenient.  

i think so
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#149 dragonmaster64
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[QUOTE="mahlasor"]

[QUOTE="dragonmaster64"]i think everyones missing the main point of the thread or didnt understand the main point.dave123321

  Quoted for truth, I think it sort of those who are in favor of the status quo because it is convenient.  

What was the main point of this thread anyway?

i guess the main point was that justice is justice and should never be swayed by emotions or sentiments.