Who is your favourite James Bond (007) actor?

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Posted by Worlds_Apart (112 posts) 13 days, 3 hours ago

Poll: Who is your favourite James Bond (007) actor? (36 votes)

Sean Connery 33%
George Lazenby 6%
Roger Moore 11%
Timothy Dalton 3%
Pierce Brosnan 22%
Daniel Craig 25%
David Niven (Casino Royale 1967) 0%

My favourite James Bond (007) actor is Roger Moore, followed very closely by Sean Connery. In 3rd place is Daniel Craig, then Pierce Brosnan.

What about yours?

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#1 Posted by DaVillain- (34344 posts) -

I went with Daniel Craig only because he's the closest to the images in the book series, but in my opinion, Timothy Dalton is closer to how Fleming imagined him. Nevertheless, Craig is canon to the book source and Sean Connery just made the Bond character iconic.

Pierce Brosnan best role is Goldeneye and to be honest, Goldeneye is my favorite Bond movie. Probably because I adore Goldeneye N64 game to death lol.

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Timothy Dalton. Right amount of edge and charm. Also in one my fav Bond movies.

Eh helps the Taliban and rides a chello.

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#3 Edited by Ezekiel43 (1064 posts) -

@davillain- said:

I went with Daniel Craig only because he's the closest to the images in the book series, but in my opinion, Timothy Dalton is closer to how Fleming imagined him. Nevertheless, Craig is canon to the book source and Sean Connery just made the Bond character iconic.

It's such a shame Craig was wasted on such boring stories after Casino Royale. It disgusts me that Robert Wade and Neil Purvis are hired again and again to write these movies. I would have fired them after Die Another Day.

Timothy Dalton is underrated, I agree.

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#4 Posted by uninspiredcup (30697 posts) -

@ezekiel43 said:
@davillain- said:

I went with Daniel Craig only because he's the closest to the images in the book series, but in my opinion, Timothy Dalton is closer to how Fleming imagined him. Nevertheless, Craig is canon to the book source and Sean Connery just made the Bond character iconic.

It's such a shame Craig was wasted on such boring stories after Casino Royale. It disgusts me that Robert Wade and Neil Purvis are hired again and again to write these movies. I would have fired them after Die Another Day.

Timothy Dalton is underrated, I agree.

I thought Skyfall was significantly better than Casino Royal. especially the pacing. Once they get to the card game I fall asleep.

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@uninspiredcup said:
@ezekiel43 said:
@davillain- said:

I went with Daniel Craig only because he's the closest to the images in the book series, but in my opinion, Timothy Dalton is closer to how Fleming imagined him. Nevertheless, Craig is canon to the book source and Sean Connery just made the Bond character iconic.

It's such a shame Craig was wasted on such boring stories after Casino Royale. It disgusts me that Robert Wade and Neil Purvis are hired again and again to write these movies. I would have fired them after Die Another Day.

Timothy Dalton is underrated, I agree.

I thought Skyfall was significantly better than Casino Royal. especially the pacing. Once they get to the card game I fall asleep.

Didn't like Skyfall. Bored me. Felt like they were trying to ape The Dark Knight when M made her speech. The last act didn't even feel like a James Bond movie anymore. What was up with the gay innuendo? Does Bond sleep with men now? Why have we never seen any implication?

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#6 Posted by DaVillain- (34344 posts) -

@ezekiel43 said:
@davillain- said:

I went with Daniel Craig only because he's the closest to the images in the book series, but in my opinion, Timothy Dalton is closer to how Fleming imagined him. Nevertheless, Craig is canon to the book source and Sean Connery just made the Bond character iconic.

It's such a shame Craig was wasted on such boring stories after Casino Royale. It disgusts me that Robert Wade and Neil Purvis are hired again and again to write these movies. I would have fired them after Die Another Day.

Timothy Dalton is underrated, I agree.

Craig was indeed wasted, he's a great actor but I can agree with @uninspiredcup that Skyfall was the only decent Bond movie Craig did well over Casino Royal.

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#7 Edited by uninspiredcup (30697 posts) -

@ezekiel43 said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@ezekiel43 said:
@davillain- said:

I went with Daniel Craig only because he's the closest to the images in the book series, but in my opinion, Timothy Dalton is closer to how Fleming imagined him. Nevertheless, Craig is canon to the book source and Sean Connery just made the Bond character iconic.

It's such a shame Craig was wasted on such boring stories after Casino Royale. It disgusts me that Robert Wade and Neil Purvis are hired again and again to write these movies. I would have fired them after Die Another Day.

Timothy Dalton is underrated, I agree.

I thought Skyfall was significantly better than Casino Royal. especially the pacing. Once they get to the card game I fall asleep.

Didn't like Skyfall. Bored me. Felt like they were trying to ape The Dark Knight when M made her speech. The last act didn't even feel like a James Bond movie anymore. What was up with the gay innuendo? Does Bond sleep with men now? Why have we never seen any implication?

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The scene ignited speculation that screenwriter John Logan, who is gay, intended to imply that Silva and Bond are gay or bisexual.[4] Logan denied this in an interview with The Huffington Post, saying, "Some people claim it's because I'm, in fact, gay but not true at all. [Director Sam Mendes] and I were discussing, there were so many scenes in which Bond goes mano-a-mano with the villain, whether it's Dr. No or Goldfinger or whatever, and there's been so many ways to a cat-and-mouse and intimidate Bond, and we thought, what would make the audience truly uncomfortable is sexual intimidation; playing the homoerotic card that is sort of always there subtextually with characters like Scaramanga in 'Man With the Golden Gun' or Dr. No. So we just decided we would play the card and enjoy it.

I thought this, and Silva's whole introduction scene was one of the best parts of the movie. It felt very Bond like seeing his chomp up scenery with grandiose talk. I like my villains to be larger than life. He's reminiscent of Scaramanga representing Bonds opposite, though here it's the idea of old vs new.

It's clear they took inspiration from the Dark Knight, the most obvious being the prison escape.

It's funny you mention it not feeling like a Bond movie. When I think of a Bond movie I want the following things

  • A memorable villain
  • Great action scenes
  • Exotic locations
  • Good gadgets
  • A reasonably good plot
  • Humor
  • A good climax

Casino Royal had very little of these, with huge, huge chunks devoid of action.

Skyfall introduces themes of M as a mother figure, James Bond aging and becoming antiquated in the new world eventually forcing the villain away from technology to force him to attack in the bare open plains of Scotland, where we all live in candle-light darkness.

I feel the story itself in regards to Casino Royal was done better in On Her Majesties Secret Service, which takes place chronologically after it, but generally has a far better female character, story, setting villain and Bond'sk plot, whom Bond marries and much like Vesper dies.

Going back on the Craig movies I Skyfall is the only one i'd happily rewatch a good number of times. Not to say it's perfect, if you scrutinize the plot for logic, like alot of Bond movies it falls on it's arse. The opening action sequences goes on far too long. Not that i'm a pink-haired-feminist or anything, But Sévérine soley exists to get Bond to Silva before becoming target practice. The final action scene goes on too long as well, it didn't require two waves.

But the stuff like M giving her poem? Loved that shit. Especially pertinent in London given all the horrible shit they've had to endure in the last few years.

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#8 Posted by thehig1 (7093 posts) -

@davillain- said:

I went with Daniel Craig only because he's the closest to the images in the book series, but in my opinion, Timothy Dalton is closer to how Fleming imagined him. Nevertheless, Craig is canon to the book source and Sean Connery just made the Bond character iconic.

Pierce Brosnan best role is Goldeneye and to be honest, Goldeneye is my favorite Bond movie. Probably because I adore Goldeneye N64 game to death lol.

This looks more like Connery than Craig.

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#9 Edited by Ezekiel43 (1064 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:
@ezekiel43 said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@ezekiel43 said:

It's such a shame Craig was wasted on such boring stories after Casino Royale. It disgusts me that Robert Wade and Neil Purvis are hired again and again to write these movies. I would have fired them after Die Another Day.

Timothy Dalton is underrated, I agree.

I thought Skyfall was significantly better than Casino Royal. especially the pacing. Once they get to the card game I fall asleep.

Didn't like Skyfall. Bored me. Felt like they were trying to ape The Dark Knight when M made her speech. The last act didn't even feel like a James Bond movie anymore. What was up with the gay innuendo? Does Bond sleep with men now? Why have we never seen any implication?

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The scene ignited speculation that screenwriter John Logan, who is gay, intended to imply that Silva and Bond are gay or bisexual.[4] Logan denied this in an interview with The Huffington Post, saying, "Some people claim it's because I'm, in fact, gay but not true at all. [Director Sam Mendes] and I were discussing, there were so many scenes in which Bond goes mano-a-mano with the villain, whether it's Dr. No or Goldfinger or whatever, and there's been so many ways to a cat-and-mouse and intimidate Bond, and we thought, what would make the audience truly uncomfortable is sexual intimidation; playing the homoerotic card that is sort of always there subtextually with characters like Scaramanga in 'Man With the Golden Gun' or Dr. No. So we just decided we would play the card and enjoy it.

I thought this, and Silva's whole introduction scene was one of the best parts of the movie. It felt very Bond like seeing his chomp up scenery with grandiose talk. I like my villains to be larger than life. He's reminiscent of Scaramanga representing Bonds opposite, though here it's the idea of old vs new.

It's clear they took inspiration from the Dark Knight, the most obvious being the prison escape.

It's funny you mention it not feeling like a Bond movie. When I think of a Bond movie I want the following things

  • A memorable villain
  • Great action scenes
  • Exotic locations
  • Good gadgets
  • A reasonably good plot
  • Humor
  • A good climax

Casino Royal had very little of these, with huge, huge chunks devoid of action.

Skyfall introduces themes of M as a mother figure, James Bond aging and becoming antiquated in the new world eventually forcing the villain away from technology to force him to attack in the bare open plains of Scotland, where we all live in candle-light darkness.

I feel the story itself in regards to Casino Royal was done better in On Her Majesties Secret Service, which takes place chronologically after it, but generally has a far better female character, story, setting villain and Bond'sk plot, whom Bond marries and much like Vesper dies.

Going back on the Craig movies I Skyfall is the only one i'd happily rewatch a good number of times. Not to say it's perfect, if you scrutinize the plot for logic, like alot of Bond movies it falls on it's arse. The opening action sequences goes on far too long. Not that i'm a pink-haired-feminist or anything, But Sévérine soley exists to get Bond to Silva before becoming target practice. The final action scene goes on too long as well, it didn't require two waves.

But the stuff like M giving her poem? Loved that shit. Especially pertinent in London given all the horrible shit they've had to endure in the last few years.

Casino Royale had smarter humor than most Bonds. Loved the banter between Vesper and Bond in the train and Bond's quip about LeChiffre playing with his balls. I dislike the Roger Moore humor.

Casino Royale had decent action. What I really want in a Bond movie is a good story. The action is secondary and boring by itself, in any movie. I liked the poker game.

They dropped the gadgets because the movies prior had gotten completely ridiculous, especially Die Another Day. I didn't mind. Was cool seeing him use his head and muscle instead.

Bond didn't wear designer suits through the movie, but that's because no one dresses like this in the places Bond usually goes to anymore. It's why I really wish they'd put the next actor in the fifties, the Cold War.

Skyfall was tedious. I've been thinking about rewatching it, but it was so dull the first time.

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#10 Posted by Ezekiel43 (1064 posts) -

@thehig1 said:
@davillain- said:

I went with Daniel Craig only because he's the closest to the images in the book series, but in my opinion, Timothy Dalton is closer to how Fleming imagined him. Nevertheless, Craig is canon to the book source and Sean Connery just made the Bond character iconic.

Pierce Brosnan best role is Goldeneye and to be honest, Goldeneye is my favorite Bond movie. Probably because I adore Goldeneye N64 game to death lol.

This looks more like Connery than Craig.

Connery is too Scottish to be the best Bond. When is that picture dated?

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#11 Edited by uninspiredcup (30697 posts) -

@ezekiel43 said:
@thehig1 said:
@davillain- said:

I went with Daniel Craig only because he's the closest to the images in the book series, but in my opinion, Timothy Dalton is closer to how Fleming imagined him. Nevertheless, Craig is canon to the book source and Sean Connery just made the Bond character iconic.

Pierce Brosnan best role is Goldeneye and to be honest, Goldeneye is my favorite Bond movie. Probably because I adore Goldeneye N64 game to death lol.

This looks more like Connery than Craig.

Connery is too Scottish to be the best Bond. When is that picture dated?

The book was the first to be written after the release of Dr. No in cinemas and Sean Connery's depiction of Bond affected Fleming's interpretation of the character.[35] The novel reveals Bond is the son of a Scottish father, Andrew Bond, of Glencoe, and a Swiss mother, Monique Delacroix, of the Canton de Vaud.[36] The young James Bond spends much of his early life abroad, becoming multilingual in German and French because of his father's work as a Vickers armaments company representative. Bond is orphaned at the age of 11 when his parents are killed in a mountain climbing accident in the Aiguilles Rouges near Chamonix.

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@uninspiredcup said:
@ezekiel43 said:
@thehig1 said:
@davillain- said:

I went with Daniel Craig only because he's the closest to the images in the book series, but in my opinion, Timothy Dalton is closer to how Fleming imagined him. Nevertheless, Craig is canon to the book source and Sean Connery just made the Bond character iconic.

Pierce Brosnan best role is Goldeneye and to be honest, Goldeneye is my favorite Bond movie. Probably because I adore Goldeneye N64 game to death lol.

This looks more like Connery than Craig.

Connery is too Scottish to be the best Bond. When is that picture dated?

The book was the first to be written after the release of Dr. No in cinemas and Sean Connery's depiction of Bond affected Fleming's interpretation of the character.[35] The novel reveals Bond is the son of a Scottish father, Andrew Bond, of Glencoe, and a Swiss mother, Monique Delacroix, of the Canton de Vaud.[36] The young James Bond spends much of his early life abroad, becoming multilingual in German and French because of his father's work as a Vickers armaments company representative. Bond is orphaned at the age of 11 when his parents are killed in a mountain climbing accident in the Aiguilles Rouges near Chamonix.

Yeah, I know Fleming made Bond part Scottish after seeing Connery. Which means nothing. It would mean something if he had done it before. Bond is not Scottish.

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#13 Posted by uninspiredcup (30697 posts) -

@ezekiel43 said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@ezekiel43 said:
@thehig1 said:
@davillain- said:

I went with Daniel Craig only because he's the closest to the images in the book series, but in my opinion, Timothy Dalton is closer to how Fleming imagined him. Nevertheless, Craig is canon to the book source and Sean Connery just made the Bond character iconic.

Pierce Brosnan best role is Goldeneye and to be honest, Goldeneye is my favorite Bond movie. Probably because I adore Goldeneye N64 game to death lol.

This looks more like Connery than Craig.

Connery is too Scottish to be the best Bond. When is that picture dated?

The book was the first to be written after the release of Dr. No in cinemas and Sean Connery's depiction of Bond affected Fleming's interpretation of the character.[35] The novel reveals Bond is the son of a Scottish father, Andrew Bond, of Glencoe, and a Swiss mother, Monique Delacroix, of the Canton de Vaud.[36] The young James Bond spends much of his early life abroad, becoming multilingual in German and French because of his father's work as a Vickers armaments company representative. Bond is orphaned at the age of 11 when his parents are killed in a mountain climbing accident in the Aiguilles Rouges near Chamonix.

Yeah, I know Fleming made Bond part Scottish after seeing Connery. Which means nothing. It would mean something if he had done it before. Bond is not Scottish.

This... makes no sense. What so ever.

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#14 Edited by Ezekiel43 (1064 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:
@ezekiel43 said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@ezekiel43 said:

Connery is too Scottish to be the best Bond. When is that picture dated?

The book was the first to be written after the release of Dr. No in cinemas and Sean Connery's depiction of Bond affected Fleming's interpretation of the character.[35] The novel reveals Bond is the son of a Scottish father, Andrew Bond, of Glencoe, and a Swiss mother, Monique Delacroix, of the Canton de Vaud.[36] The young James Bond spends much of his early life abroad, becoming multilingual in German and French because of his father's work as a Vickers armaments company representative. Bond is orphaned at the age of 11 when his parents are killed in a mountain climbing accident in the Aiguilles Rouges near Chamonix.

Yeah, I know Fleming made Bond part Scottish after seeing Connery. Which means nothing. It would mean something if he had done it before. Bond is not Scottish.

This... makes no sense. What so ever.

It makes complete sense. You can't fairly define James Bond if you're going to go by alterations Fleming made to the character based on actors he saw while he was alive. Either use the character Connery and all the others had to model themselves after or don't even try defining him. Connery is too Scottish to be the defining Bond.

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#15 Posted by hrt_rulz01 (18244 posts) -

I grew up watching Pierce Brosnan, so I'll always have a soft spot for him.

But Daniel Craig is very good.

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#16 Edited by uninspiredcup (30697 posts) -

@ezekiel43 said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@ezekiel43 said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@ezekiel43 said:

Connery is too Scottish to be the best Bond. When is that picture dated?

The book was the first to be written after the release of Dr. No in cinemas and Sean Connery's depiction of Bond affected Fleming's interpretation of the character.[35] The novel reveals Bond is the son of a Scottish father, Andrew Bond, of Glencoe, and a Swiss mother, Monique Delacroix, of the Canton de Vaud.[36] The young James Bond spends much of his early life abroad, becoming multilingual in German and French because of his father's work as a Vickers armaments company representative. Bond is orphaned at the age of 11 when his parents are killed in a mountain climbing accident in the Aiguilles Rouges near Chamonix.

Yeah, I know Fleming made Bond part Scottish after seeing Connery. Which means nothing. It would mean something if he had done it before. Bond is not Scottish.

This... makes no sense. What so ever.

It makes complete sense. You can't fairly define James Bond if you're going to go by alterations Fleming made to the character based on actors he saw while he was alive. Either use the character Connery and all the others had to model themselves after or don't even try defining him. Connery is too Scottish to be the defining Bond.

So, to be clear here. Your opinion overwrites Ian Flemings? The Creator? Because... reason.

Too Scottish?

Sorry man, that's hogwash.

As a Scottish person as well i'm deeply, deeply offended. You're not getting a Christmas card.

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@uninspiredcup said:
@ezekiel43 said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@ezekiel43 said:

Yeah, I know Fleming made Bond part Scottish after seeing Connery. Which means nothing. It would mean something if he had done it before. Bond is not Scottish.

This... makes no sense. What so ever.

It makes complete sense. You can't fairly define James Bond if you're going to go by alterations Fleming made to the character based on actors he saw while he was alive. Either use the character Connery and all the others had to model themselves after or don't even try defining him. Connery is too Scottish to be the defining Bond.

So, to be clear here. Your opinion overwrites Ian Flemings? The Creator? Because... reason.

Too Scottish?

Sorry man, that's hogwash.

As a Scottish person as well i'm deeply, deeply offended. You're not getting a Christmas card.

I don't know why the hell you're offended. I'm too dark to be James Bond. So what?

No, not "because... reason." Yours is a ridiculous argument. He defined the character with ten books before Connery showed up. How much might the character have changed if the impressionable author had continued writing these books for another sixty years and been alive to see all the actors? Connery doesn't get to have any special advantage.

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@ezekiel43 said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@ezekiel43 said:
@uninspiredcup said:

This... makes no sense. What so ever.

It makes complete sense. You can't fairly define James Bond if you're going to go by alterations Fleming made to the character based on actors he saw while he was alive. Either use the character Connery and all the others had to model themselves after or don't even try defining him. Connery is too Scottish to be the defining Bond.

So, to be clear here. Your opinion overwrites Ian Flemings? The Creator? Because... reason.

Too Scottish?

Sorry man, that's hogwash.

As a Scottish person as well i'm deeply, deeply offended. You're not getting a Christmas card.

I don't know why the hell you're offended. I'm too dark to be James Bond. So what?

No, not "because... reason." Yours is a ridiculous argument. He defined the character with ten books before Connery showed up. How much might the character have changed if the impressionable author had continued writing these books for another fifty years and been alive to see all the actors? Connery doesn't get to have any special advantage.

I wasn't, the massive over-exaggeration of deeply should have been a cue.

The character did change both in the books and movies. His heritage is specifically brought up, and used to track down Blofeld in her Her Majesty's Secret Service, which was written while Dr.No was being filmed.

The fact is as well, prior to Sean Connery, people by and large didn't give a shit about James Bond. It was the movies that skyrocketed the series and made it a pop culture phenomenon, with part of that specifically down to Connery's performance, which, regardless of nationality does differ greatly from the book.

Bond in the books character wise is closer to Timothy Dalton where he's quite fickle and short-tempered. Connery's was the personification of coolness, an unfeeling sociopath who only cares about skirt and winning.

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This scene in particular is what defined Bond for people. Everything about the character both in looks, speech, mannerisms and actions.

I'm not really sure where you get this idea your own opinion is somehow higher than the creators or everyone else's or that the character should somehow remain static "because".

Indeed, much like Doctor Who part of the enduring appeal is watching the character evolve. Everyone getting their tittles in a bunch over Idris Elba was just laughable considering how we went from Connery to Moore to George Lazenby who wasn't even an actor.

Regardless, he's canon, Scottish. Where most true heroes come from, William Wallace, Robert The Bruce, Batman, Baxters, Tunnocks etc...

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That's particularly why Skyfall resonates as well come to think of it, James Bond has been around for 50+ years as a movie franchise. It takes that longevity and injects it into the plot where his character is old, haggard and dealing with modern world far removed from the original world he was conceived in. Judi Dench's character it in could be argued intentionally or not as representing Flemming.

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#19 Posted by Mink (1794 posts) -

Pierce, just because of the N64 memories, i'm into nostalgia.

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#20 Edited by Ezekiel43 (1064 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:
That's particularly why Skyfall resonates as well come to think of it, James Bond has been around for 50+ years as a movie franchise. It takes that longevity and injects it into the plot where his character is old, haggard and dealing with modern world far removed from the original world he was conceived in. Judi Dench's character it in could be argued intentionally or not as representing Flemming.

No, that just more than anything made it clear to me that they should set these movies in the '50s, where Bond belongs. It was so weird seeing him use straight razors, wear tuxedos, drive the DB5 and talk about being from an old time, like someone his age ever would have been normal in this time. He's like a hipster walking around with a classic trench coat and old hat. It was awkward seeing what the creators did in their attempt to make it feel real.

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#21 Posted by TalksFox (3 posts) -

I'm an Indian! I learned a lot of things in this forum thread.........

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#22 Posted by Hekarim (19 posts) -

@talksfox: This is very cool, so which Agent 007 do you choose?

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#23 Posted by Herrinha (16 posts) -
@davillain- said:

I went with Daniel Craig only because he's the closest to the images in the book series, but in my opinion, Timothy Dalton is closer to how Fleming imagined him. Nevertheless, Craig is canon to the book source and Sean Connery just made the Bond character iconic.

Pierce Brosnan best role is Goldeneye and to be honest, Goldeneye is my favorite Bond movie. Probably because I adore Goldeneye N64 game to death lol.

My two favorites are Sean Connery and Daniel Craig. And I totally agree with that!

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#24 Posted by Worlds_Apart (112 posts) -

I'm really surprised that Pierce Brosnan is in joint first place.

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#25 Posted by Horgen (119422 posts) -

@worlds_apart said:

I'm really surprised that Pierce Brosnan is in joint first place.

GoldenEye probably.

I have difficulty choosing. Craig does an OK job. The blame is perhaps more with the movies themselves than Craig though.

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#26 Posted by uninspiredcup (30697 posts) -

Pierce Brosnan is really good in Goldeneye. After that he kinda goes into auto-pilot mode. It's pretty clear by Die Another Day he doesn't give a shit.

Same with Connery the further in you go. You Only Live Twice is one of the best Bond movies but he's phoning it in.

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Moore is interesting, after Moonraker they tried to make a serious Bond with him in "For Your Eyes Only", where it's clearly aping On Her Majesties Secret Service, really oddball movie, very little camp, no gadgets. Also has the guy who done the Rocky music doing the soundtrack.

Fun scene at the start that references On Her Majesties Secret Service and ends the story of Blofeld, who isn't (but really is) Blofeld because they didn't own the rights to it.

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#27 Posted by Longsnout (162 posts) -

Connery of course.

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#28 Edited by uninspiredcup (30697 posts) -

@ezekiel43 said:
@uninspiredcup said:
That's particularly why Skyfall resonates as well come to think of it, James Bond has been around for 50+ years as a movie franchise. It takes that longevity and injects it into the plot where his character is old, haggard and dealing with modern world far removed from the original world he was conceived in. Judi Dench's character it in could be argued intentionally or not as representing Flemming.

No, that just more than anything made it clear to me that they should set these movies in the '50s, where Bond belongs. It was so weird seeing him use straight razors, wear tuxedos, drive the DB5 and talk about being from an old time, like someone his age ever would have been normal in this time. He's like a hipster walking around with a classic trench coat and old hat. It was awkward seeing what the creators did in their attempt to make it feel real.

Regarding the poem scene in Skyfall, that wasn't ripping off the Dark Knight, it was aping a scene from On Her Majesties Secret Service with Diana Riggs.

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Alot of them have a tendency to ape it in some form. Hell, the Spectre trailer was literally using it's theme tune. Christopher Nolan himself took cue from it, most obvious in Inception. The last section of Casino Royal is more aping it then the book it's based on.

Spectres an odd movie as well. First time I watched it I quite enjoyed it. Second/third time is became pretty apparent how bad it is. Bad Bond girls. Worst Blofeld. More like Mission Impossible where it's "Bond and friends". a real lack of urgency or tension and a pretty bad climax sequence that tries really badly to intertwine the other movies as "some master plan". They are using the Bond is a tortured soul and mastermind messing with secret service to the point of lazyness.

Not quite Die Another Day levels of terrible, but it would really benefit from something like Licence To KIll where it's more an external plot than everything revolving around Bond, it's a problem Doctor Who has as well.

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#29 Posted by l34052 (3875 posts) -

For me Daniel Craig is the best bond. I like the darker side of bond that he portrays.

Pierce Brosnan was awful in almost every way.

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#30 Posted by LJS9502_basic (165927 posts) -
@l34052 said:

For me Daniel Craig is the best bond. I like the darker side of bond that he portrays.

Pierce Brosnan was awful in almost every way.

Eh at Craig's point he just became a Bourne clone. Not original in any way.

Brosnan was good but his movies other than Goldeneye sucked.

I don't really have a favorite. I watch them all for what they were.

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#31 Posted by shellcase86 (4252 posts) -

So tough. Almost all of them are brilliant, in my view. I guess my favorite then would be whoever is playing Bond at that particular moment as I'm watching it.

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#32 Posted by AFBrat77 (26650 posts) -

Roger Moore for sure, he had the best overall attributes as James Bond......just wish he was in the better quality Bond movies that Connery got. Perfect!

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#33 Posted by tocool340 (21315 posts) -

I'm.....gonna go with Craig. Casino Royale is my favorite of all the Bond movies but its a shame most of the proceeding movies could never measure up to its feel. What I love about Casino Royale its pacing (Despite it being the complaint of many others), Bonds overall character, and the fact that the movie never strays too off the path of realism. The following movies just turned too much into cliches of different movies. Not only that but the obvious plot armor Bond suddenly acquires to survive situations that he should've normally died in truly ruined the later movies for me....

I have to look at Quantum of Solace again to remember my thoughts on that one (If I can manage to get passed the first 15 minutes. I watched it once, but every time I attempt to rewatch it, I end up losing interest and go off to look at something else)

Skyfall's opening and closing Act pretty much killed my enjoyment of what was actually a good Bond movie. The beginning was going well up til Bond somehow survives getting snipe and falling what look like a hundred feet head first into water, which didn't bother me a great deal, but it was distracting. But that ridiculous ending act where Bond actually got caught by the bad guys on that lake was too much for me....

Spectre was....good to mediocre. It showed signs of potential but just tried too hard to be what felt like a Bourne clone. That, and Bonds plot armor was on full display throughout most of the movie....

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#34 Posted by uninspiredcup (30697 posts) -

@tocool340 said:

Not only that but the obvious plot armor Bond suddenly acquires to survive situations that he should've normally died in truly ruined the later movies for me....

Eh?

Defibrillator sequences = interrupted by Vesper

About his get his balls chopped off = Interrupted thanks to Vesper

Getting backpack = Shoot explosives everyone instantly knocked over but him

Hotel Fight = Vesper saves him

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#35 Posted by tocool340 (21315 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:
@tocool340 said:

Not only that but the obvious plot armor Bond suddenly acquires to survive situations that he should've normally died in truly ruined the later movies for me....

Eh?

Defibrillator sequences = interrupted by Vesper

About his get his balls chopped off = Interrupted thanks to Vesper

Getting backpack = Shoot explosives everyone instantly knocked over but him

Hotel Fight = Vesper saves him

I'll give you the defibrillator scene since that was one instance that it seem odd that Vesper would magically appear and somehow know just how to save James. But the others you mentioned I'm not so sure.

Vesper didn't save James from getting his balls chopped off, that was Mr. White (who left James alive since he is the only one that knows the code to the bank account with all the money he won from that poker game).

Looked like James was outside the explosion radius vs. the guys standing literally right next to those canisters in that scene (Thinking you're talking about the beginning of the movie).

Not too sure how Vesper helping him in that situation qualifies for...anything other than her simply being useful instead of allowing him to die....

When I say plot armor, I mean being in a more dire situation where there's no way in hell he shouldn't be walking away from like in Skyfall when he was shot at the beginning or when he falls into a freezing lake at the end of the movie while a guy has him in a headlock (somehow survives that encounter by taking out said guy, grabs a flare gun he conveniently has, then shoots a flare while underwater to find his way back to the surface.). Or with Spectre, in the torture scene where he gets drilled in the head (Then soon after, proceeds to get free and takes out that entire base). Things of that nature....

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#36 Edited by uninspiredcup (30697 posts) -

@tocool340 said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@tocool340 said:

Not only that but the obvious plot armor Bond suddenly acquires to survive situations that he should've normally died in truly ruined the later movies for me....

Eh?

Defibrillator sequences = interrupted by Vesper

About his get his balls chopped off = Interrupted thanks to Vesper

Getting backpack = Shoot explosives everyone instantly knocked over but him

Hotel Fight = Vesper saves him

I'll give you the defibrillator scene since that was one instance that it seem odd that Vesper would magically appear and somehow know just how to save James. But the others you mentioned I'm not so sure.

Vesper didn't save James from getting his balls chopped off, that was Mr. White (who left James alive since he is the only one that knows the code to the bank account with all the money he won from that poker game).

Looked like James was outside the explosion radius vs. the guys standing literally right next to those canisters in that scene (Thinking you're talking about the beginning of the movie).

Not too sure how Vesper helping him in that situation qualifies for...anything other than her simply being useful instead of allowing him to die....

When I say plot armor, I mean being in a more dire situation where there's no way in hell he shouldn't be walking away from like in Skyfall when he was shot at the beginning or when he falls into a freezing lake at the end of the movie while a guy has him in a headlock (somehow survives that encounter by taking out said guy, grabs a flare gun he conveniently has, then shoots a flare while underwater to find his way back to the surface.). Or with Spectre, in the torture scene where he gets drilled in the head (Then soon after, proceeds to get free and takes out that entire base). Things of that nature....

She made a deal with him.

Personally, i'm not fussed, as long the method of getting out of it is entertaining. Like this scene in Moonraker, an objectively shit movie, but this scene is great.

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The problem I have with the opening with Skyfall isn't that he survives, it's that the lead up to it just drags on for so long.

It's not really original either, all the way from From Russia With Love to You Only Live Twice, we'd had the fakeout of Bond being dead. With From Russia With Love's serving more of a purpose, quick/better-paced, misleading and more exciting. Sure, the mask looks like shit, but we are talking the 1960's. That just sets up a great tone, where as in Skyfall, his death kind of goes nowhere, other than I guess Miss Moneypenny at the very end? But that's very "who gives a shit".

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#37 Posted by AFBrat77 (26650 posts) -

@uninspiredcup:

The scene you have with Roger Moore is exactly why I think Roger Moore was the best Bond, I don't think the others could have pulled it off so perfectly. I agree Moonraker was crap, but it wasn't Moores fault. He had all the best attributes for being Bond imo. He is the one I would have wanted to be if I were James Bond. I believe he was the first choice to be Bond at the outset over Connery but he turned it down then. I still like Connery also though, but Moore is Bond to me. He just needed better movies, though Live and Let Die and The Spy who Loved Me were standouts.

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#38 Edited by uninspiredcup (30697 posts) -

@AFBrat77: Poor old Roger Moore got a rap for being a terrible actor his entire life and tried to put a smile on it.

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I liked him as well for sure, it's just a different tone of movie. Me and 5 other people in the world champion the The Man With The Golden Gun.

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#39 Posted by Jacanuk (17643 posts) -

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For me Daniel Craig is the best bond. I like the darker side of bond that he portrays.

Pierce Brosnan was awful in almost every way.

Craig was too American to be a true Bond, he would have been perfect as a CIA agent in a Bond film but as a true English gentleman spy, no way.

The best James bond with no equal is Sean Connery, he is and always will be in a class of his own.

The list goes Connery, Brosnan, Moore, Dalton, Lazenby and Craig at the bottom.

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#40 Edited by Mandzilla (3272 posts) -

Pierce Brosnan, nobody pulled off the cheesy one-liners better! He was also pretty easy on the eyes. 👀

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#41 Posted by Heirren (719 posts) -

Sean Connery, but Goldeneye is the best film.

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#42 Posted by fireman64 (49 posts) -

Connery , Bonds are the best, but thought Moore looks a better Bond.

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#43 Edited by Boddicker (4448 posts) -

I liked the Bonds I grew up with.

1) Roger Moore. A more light hearted cheesy 80's Bond.

2) Timothy Dalton. A more serious Bond.

3) Pierce Brosnan. A combination of Moore and Dalton.

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#44 Posted by uninspiredcup (30697 posts) -

@fireman64 said:

Connery , Bonds are the best, but thought Moore looks a better Bond.

It's amazing just how long, and what age Moore sat in that role. He certainty knows how to impress the woman.

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