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#1 Mercenary848
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This saga has some amazing bad guys, but the mouth of sauuron has always been the coolest to me. They could have made him better in the movies.

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#2 Serraph105
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Gollum is pretty loveable.

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They really should make a movie out of The Silmarillion. Morgoth ftw.
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#4 ferrari2001
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Saruman is probably the most complex and deep character. He's not cut-and-dry good or evil. That's probably why I like him as a character so much. The movies didn't do nearly as good as the books did in portraying his inner lust and desires that led to his ulterior motives. As a maia of Aule he had a desire to create and to possess. He really did desire good, but the lust of that good led him to do evil in the name of Sauron. Both him and Denethor are amazing characters because they represent those of us who fail to overcome our fallen natures.
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#5 BossPerson
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melkor straight up

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#6 Teenaged
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Sauron and the Witch King.

I really like Sauron's armour and the Witch-King's helmet.

Generally though the ringwraiths are pretty badass.

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#7 Teenaged
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melkor straight up

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I would choose him (mainly because I like his name) but he doesnt appear on LotR. He is only mentioned once in the movies and a couple times in the books.

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#8 WickoSicko
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Sauron is the true ruler. :cool:

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#9 worlock77
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They really should make a movie out of The Silmarillion. Morgoth ftw.aaronmullan

'The Silmarillion', I think, would be too complex to turn into a movie. It's too many, essentially, short stories woven together. And aside from 'The Children of Hurin' Tolkien never expanded upon the stories with enough material to create a movie out of.

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Melkor.
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#11 worlock77
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Melkor.shakmaster13

Not in 'the Lord of the Rings'.

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#12 Skarwolf
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Gandalf is my favorite bad guy.

Forces an innocent & ignorant guy to take the weapon of mass destruction for that time and cross the country to get rid of it because he was too scared to do it.

Organize various peaceful peoples into a unified war against the established order, being Saruman just because he didn't get a promotion.

Committ genocide against a race just because they looked different and liked to live underground in a place the dwarves moved out of.

Plays dumb 100% of the time instead of directly stating the facts while pushing everyone in the direction he wants to go, how annoying.

Fakes his own death to ditch his companions so he can go party somewhere and then pulls a jesus to show off.

Just one of the many evil things Gandalf did.

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Gandalf is my favorite bad guy.

Forces an innocent & ignorant guy to take the weapon of mass destruction for that time and cross the country to get rid of it because he was too scared to do it.

Organize various peaceful peoples into a unified war against the established order, being Saruman just because he didn't get a promotion.

Committ genocide against a race just because they looked different and liked to live underground in a place the dwarves moved out of.

Plays dumb 100% of the time instead of directly stating the facts while pushing everyone in the direction he wants to go, how annoying.

Fakes his own death to ditch his companions so he can go party somewhere and then pulls a jesus to show off.

Just one of the many evil things Gandalf did.

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i assume you are one of those who think Nato should have stayed out of Libya? the orcs were savaged murderers, Gandalf didnt force any peaceful people into war, he called Rohan to fight saruman because he wanted to liberate Rohan from evil. And he sent frodo to mount doom because he knew he would be too tempted by the rings power. And he didnt fake his own death? he got dragged down by a balrog. At this point.....not sure if your serious
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#14 Pirate700
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Frodo.

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Lurtz. I wish they had dragged out his death more.
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[QUOTE="Skarwolf"]

Gandalf is my favorite bad guy.

Forces an innocent & ignorant guy to take the weapon of mass destruction for that time and cross the country to get rid of it because he was too scared to do it.

Organize various peaceful peoples into a unified war against the established order, being Saruman just because he didn't get a promotion.

Committ genocide against a race just because they looked different and liked to live underground in a place the dwarves moved out of.

Plays dumb 100% of the time instead of directly stating the facts while pushing everyone in the direction he wants to go, how annoying.

Fakes his own death to ditch his companions so he can go party somewhere and then pulls a jesus to show off.

Just one of the many evil things Gandalf did.

BossPerson

i assume you are one of those who think Nato should have stayed out of Libya? the orcs were savaged murderers, Gandalf didnt force any peaceful people into war, he called Rohan to fight saruman because he wanted to liberate Rohan from evil. And he sent frodo to mount doom because he knew he would be too tempted by the rings power. And he didnt fake his own death? he got dragged down by a balrog. At this point.....not sure if your serious

No, he's right. Gandalf may have done good but his motives were pure evil. Next time you go through the novels, read between the lines.

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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="Skarwolf"]

Gandalf is my favorite bad guy.

Forces an innocent & ignorant guy to take the weapon of mass destruction for that time and cross the country to get rid of it because he was too scared to do it.

Organize various peaceful peoples into a unified war against the established order, being Saruman just because he didn't get a promotion.

Committ genocide against a race just because they looked different and liked to live underground in a place the dwarves moved out of.

Plays dumb 100% of the time instead of directly stating the facts while pushing everyone in the direction he wants to go, how annoying.

Fakes his own death to ditch his companions so he can go party somewhere and then pulls a jesus to show off.

Just one of the many evil things Gandalf did.

Ross_the_Boss6

i assume you are one of those who think Nato should have stayed out of Libya? the orcs were savaged murderers, Gandalf didnt force any peaceful people into war, he called Rohan to fight saruman because he wanted to liberate Rohan from evil. And he sent frodo to mount doom because he knew he would be too tempted by the rings power. And he didnt fake his own death? he got dragged down by a balrog. At this point.....not sure if your serious

No, he's right. Gandalf may have done good but his intentions were pure evil. Next time you go through the novels, read between the lines.

oh c'moooooooooooooon. You're telling me Gandalf is evil? he was created to help middle-earth fight evil.
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The mouth of Sauron appears on the movie for about 5 minutes. Gollum is on 2 movies and he isn't on the poll? What a logic.

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#19 Teenaged
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The mouth of Sauron appears on the movie for about 5 minutes. Gollum is on 2 movies and he isn't on the poll? What a logic.

tjricardo089

Well Gollum I think deserves our sympathy because he turned evil because he was corrupted by the Ring, which is an "extension" of Sauron's malice.

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#20 KiIIyou
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That little pale orc, could have been a goblin. I can't remember.
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#21 DocDelicious
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There's more than one? Favorite "bad guy": Smaug Favorite "good guy": Beorn
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#22 worlock77
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Why do people keep bringing up characters that are not actually in the 'Lord of the Rings'?

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#23 Dark__Link
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Why do people keep bringing up characters that are not actually in the 'Lord of the Rings'?

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Meh, The Hobbit is basically part of LOTR lore. Nothing wrong with saying Smaug.
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#24 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Why do people keep bringing up characters that are not actually in the 'Lord of the Rings'?

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Meh, The Hobbit is basically part of LOTR lore. Nothing wrong with saying Smaug.

It's all part of the same lore, yes, but it's still not 'the Lord of the Rings'. It'd be about like asking who your favorite 'Star Wars: Episode II' character is and someone saying Lando Calrissian.

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#25 Dark__Link
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[QUOTE="Dark__Link"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Why do people keep bringing up characters that are not actually in the 'Lord of the Rings'?

worlock77

Meh, The Hobbit is basically part of LOTR lore. Nothing wrong with saying Smaug.

It's all part of the same lore, yes, but it's still not 'the Lord of the Rings'. It'd be about like asking who your favorite 'Star Wars: Episode II' character is and someone saying Lando Calrissian.

If he had asked us what our favorite bad guy from Two Towers was, then yeah. But I took "LOTR" to mean the overarching lore. Let's just blame TC for not being specific enough.
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#26 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Dark__Link"] Meh, The Hobbit is basically part of LOTR lore. Nothing wrong with saying Smaug.Dark__Link

It's all part of the same lore, yes, but it's still not 'the Lord of the Rings'. It'd be about like asking who your favorite 'Star Wars: Episode II' character is and someone saying Lando Calrissian.

If he had asked us what our favorite bad guy from Two Towers was, then yeah. But I took "LOTR" to mean the overarching lore. Let's just blame TC for not being specific enough.

*shrugs*

I take "Lord of the Rings" to mean 'Lord of the Rings'. Sounded fairly specific to me (especially since it's so often printed in single-volume editions now, and since the TC mentioned the movies).

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[QUOTE="Dark__Link"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Why do people keep bringing up characters that are not actually in the 'Lord of the Rings'?

worlock77

Meh, The Hobbit is basically part of LOTR lore. Nothing wrong with saying Smaug.

It's all part of the same lore, yes, but it's still not 'the Lord of the Rings'. It'd be about like asking who your favorite 'Star Wars: Episode II' character is and someone saying Lando Calrissian.

Maybe they wanted to choose a black guy only.
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Witch-King

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#29 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Dark__Link"] Meh, The Hobbit is basically part of LOTR lore. Nothing wrong with saying Smaug.SolidSnake35

It's all part of the same lore, yes, but it's still not 'the Lord of the Rings'. It'd be about like asking who your favorite 'Star Wars: Episode II' character is and someone saying Lando Calrissian.

Maybe they wanted to choose a black guy only.

Which does not negate the point. At all.

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#30 Ilovegames1992
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Technically the Lord of the Rings is just the story of the Lord of the Rings, Frodo's adventure. I probably wouldn't count Smaug as a LotR villain.

It is like saying your favourite Empire Strikes Back villain is Darth Malak

I'd probably say Sauron.

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#31 SolidSnake35
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

It's all part of the same lore, yes, but it's still not 'the Lord of the Rings'. It'd be about like asking who your favorite 'Star Wars: Episode II' character is and someone saying Lando Calrissian.

worlock77

Maybe they wanted to choose a black guy only.

Which does not negate the point. At all.

Just saying he's like.. the only black guy in the galaxy.
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#32 Ilovegames1992
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] Maybe they wanted to choose a black guy only.SolidSnake35

Which does not negate the point. At all.

Just saying he's like.. the only black guy in the galaxy.

Admiral Ackbar...

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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Which does not negate the point. At all.

Ilovegames1992

Just saying he's like.. the only black guy in the galaxy.

Admiral Ackbar...

He's a fishman though.
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#34 Ilovegames1992
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[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] Just saying he's like.. the only black guy in the galaxy.SolidSnake35

Admiral Ackbar...

He's a fishman though.

Exactly :P

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These guys:

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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Admiral Ackbar...

Ilovegames1992

He's a fishman though.

Exactly :P

I can only conclude that Ackbar is Lando's son.
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Witch-king of course!

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[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] He's a fishman though.SolidSnake35

Exactly :P

I can only conclude that Ackbar is Lando's son.

Wait actually was Mace Windu still around when Lando was born?

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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] Maybe they wanted to choose a black guy only.SolidSnake35

Which does not negate the point. At all.

Just saying he's like.. the only black guy in the galaxy.

Mace Windu.

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These guys:

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Witch-king>his servants

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#41 SolidSnake35
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Exactly :P

Ilovegames1992

I can only conclude that Ackbar is Lando's son.

Wait actually was Mace Windu still around when Lando was born?

No Idea. I know little more than what the films show.
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#42 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] Maybe they wanted to choose a black guy only.SolidSnake35

Which does not negate the point. At all.

Just saying he's like.. the only black guy in the galaxy.

Ah sh*t son....don't tell me you forgot about Samuel L motherf*cking Jackson.

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#43 Ilovegames1992
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[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] I can only conclude that Ackbar is Lando's son.SolidSnake35

Wait actually was Mace Windu still around when Lando was born?

No Idea. I know little more than what the films show.

I'm just going to say Luke is like 18-20 and Lando is in his 40's. Think that works.

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[QUOTE="Drakes_Fortune"]

These guys:

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Witch-king>his servants

Nah, i like them as a whole and their backstory.

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#45 sonofsmeagle
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What no love for Gollum ?

Sure the ring corrupted to him but he was still a bad guy for 4/5ths of the Lord of the Rings.

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#46 coolbeans90
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Saruman.

The Nazgul from the first film come close, though. Didn't care much for them in the subsequent films.

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The Witch-King of Angmar

he didnt deserve the death he got :(

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I thought strider (the ringwrath in the galloping pony early on) was pretty intimidating for the first villain
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I thought strider (the ringwrath in the galloping pony early on) was pretty intimidating for the first villainEJ902

Strider was Aragorn's other handle no?

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#50 harashawn
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I thought strider (the ringwrath in the galloping pony early on) was pretty intimidating for the first villainEJ902
Strider is Aragorn, not a ringwraith.