Which person would you hire if you owned a business?

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#1 topsemag55
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Here's the deal: you own a business, and you have one position open.

Two people have applied for the job. One is a 35-year-old guy with 15 years of experience.

The other is a 22-year-old with a degree but no practical on-the-job experience.

Which one would you hire?

Discuss.

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#2 Teenaged
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Depends on the looks.

[spoiler] :P [/spoiler]

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#3 Mystic-G
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Aha!! I see what this topic is doing. ;)


I know it's not part of the discussion, but it honestly depends what job it was and how much either person was asking for.

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#4 Lethalhazard
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Guy with 15 years of experience....he's pretty much a master at that point in whatever subject. Why would you hire a rookie over him?

Of course...this depends on the position. I know some studios that will hire young people just because they don't burn out as easy and won't complain when treat unfairly, whereas more experienced folk will complain.

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#5 topsemag55
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Depends on the looks.

Teenaged

Okay, the 35 guy looks like James Bond.:lol:joke

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#6 DeLurk
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I think I'd pick the younger guy. You can give him a good "first start" and he would be more willing to listen, rather than a guy who already is set in how he does stuff.
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#7 topsemag55
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Aha!! I see what this topic is doing. ;)


I know it's not part of the discussion, but it honestly depends what job it was and how much either person was asking for.

Mystic-G

I took a course a while back, and this came up as a discussion question.

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#9 Mystic-G
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[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

Aha!! I see what this topic is doing. ;)


I know it's not part of the discussion, but it honestly depends what job it was and how much either person was asking for.

topsemag55

I took a course a while back, and this came up as a discussion question.

I don't wanna completely spoil it on here, but I'm sure it was to show the state of the economy.

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#10 topsemag55
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[QUOTE="topsemag55"]

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

Aha!! I see what this topic is doing. ;)


I know it's not part of the discussion, but it honestly depends what job it was and how much either person was asking for.

Mystic-G

I took a course a while back, and this came up as a discussion question.

I don't wanna completely spoil it on here, but I'm sure it was to show the state of the economy.

Actually it was just a participation debate. The instructor would choose a question, and throw it out for general discussion.

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#11 Mercenary848
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Both seem like a safe be, but probably the young guy. The older guy might have trouble staying at one job.

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#12 kidsmelly
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Depends on how much they are asking for and what the job is. If it is some skilled labor I would be more inclined to go with the 35 year old. If its an easier job to grasp I would go with the younger guy and pay him less.

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#13 rlake
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The fact that the 35 year old is up for the same position as the 22 year old leads me to believe that the 35 year old is a screw-up. No one with 15 years of experience should be competing for the same job with kids right out of college. Thus, he is probably a loser, lazy, an alcoholic, antisocial, or some combination. Hence, I am definitely going with the 22 year old, every time.

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#14 Shadowhawk000
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Depends on the job..
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#15 mindstorm
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Depends upon the job. Being that any "business" I'd own would likely be a church, more than experience/education is required for the job. If both are knowledgeable of Scripture and are passionate for Christ, I'd probably go with the young student to help him out. As it is I am in the position of the young college graduate. Since I graduated from college last May, I have had difficulty finding a job in my field due to a lack of experience. Granted, what church in their right mind would want an arrogant 23 year old pastor?
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#16 dunl12496
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It's not really even an opinion to me. If you hire them for the same amount why would you hire someone who would slow down business? It doesn't make sense.

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#17 hesel
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The fact that the 35 year old is up for the same position as the 22 year old leads me to believe that the 35 year old is a screw-up. No one with 15 years of experience should be competing for the same job with kids right out of college. Thus, he is probably a loser, lazy, an alcoholic, antisocial, or some combination. Hence, I am definitely going with the 22 year old, every time.

rlake



He could of been made redudant, it happened to my mother she went from being a manager to being a receptionist because the company closed, and people who were 18 were applying for the same job.

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#18 kidsmelly
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The fact that the 35 year old is up for the same position as the 22 year old leads me to believe that the 35 year old is a screw-up. No one with 15 years of experience should be competing for the same job with kids right out of college. Thus, he is probably a loser, lazy, an alcoholic, antisocial, or some combination. Hence, I am definitely going with the 22 year old, every time.

rlake

Iit's a rough job market out there people get laid off all the time due to no fault of theirs but the company failing. Also college graduates are really having tough times finding jobs and are applying for more experienced position because there is nothing out there. This isn't some far fetched scenario its happening everyday everywhere.

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#19 entropyecho
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This is a trick question because you never mentioned if you could afford the person with 15 years experience or if the position is entry-level or not.

By the way, I would hire Jesus.

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#20 daqua_99
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It depends on a lot of factors (pay, attitude, type of job, etc), but I would almost always go for the experienced guy.

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#21 Ceraby
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If the older guy has a family to take care of, and had no other job options, then I probably would hire the older person. Aside from more experience, he would probably do more to ensure that he keeps the job and not get on my bad side.

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#22 topsemag55
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The fact that the 35 year old is up for the same position as the 22 year old leads me to believe that the 35 year old is a screw-up. No one with 15 years of experience should be competing for the same job with kids right out of college. Thus, he is probably a loser, lazy, an alcoholic, antisocial, or some combination. Hence, I am definitely going with the 22 year old, every time.

rlake

Let's say both are applying for a supervisory position. The older guy feels he knows the job from working it for 15 years (started at the bottom, worked his way up). The graduate has the academic learning, just no experience in supervising.

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#23 topsemag55
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This is a trick question because you never mentioned if you could afford the person with 15 years experience or if the position is entry-level or not.

By the way, I would hire Jesus.

entropyecho

No trick, just a discussion. It could be a tough call to make. Who do you give the chance?

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#24 Snipes_2
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I would go with the College kid. The other guy is set in his ways and won't take orders as easily. This guy can turn out to be productive and hopefully bring some new ideas to the table to further the company.

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#25 MattUD1
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"]Depends upon the job. Being that any "business" I'd own would likely be a church, more than experience/education is required for the job. If both are knowledgeable of Scripture and are passionate for Christ, I'd probably go with the young student to help him out. As it is I am in the position of the young college graduate. Since I graduated from college last May, I have had difficulty finding a job in my field due to a lack of experience. Granted, what church in their right mind would want an arrogant 23 year old pastor?

Arrogant or confident? ;)
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#26 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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It honestly depends on the job. If it's a management position I'd probably want the 35 year old person.

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#27 LJS9502_basic
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Depends on the job actually....
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#28 markop2003
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It would depend on the position and their full resumes.
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#29 hiphops_savior
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Depends on the position of need and the person who's hiring. If the company has a bunch of experienced guys, I woud hire the greenhorn. If the company is just starting up, I would need as much experience as possible.
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#30 TehFuneral
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Depends on certain aspects of their personality.

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#31 Grodus5
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It depends on the job really. If its a really skill based job, like engineering or something, I'm gonna take a PE over a rookie. If its something... a little less dangerous to the population, I'd probably take the rookie.

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#32 btaylor2404
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The one with experience. A college degree, in most jobs, doesn't equal 15 years of on the job training.
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#33 S1MSTA
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35, because of the experience.

experiance > degree

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#34 bruinfan617
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I'm suprised no one has said that it depends on the job.

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#35 The_Gaming_Baby
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Sounds like this job doesn't require a degree. I choose the old guy.

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#36 Shadow2k6
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It depends on the job.

In the business world the 22 year old will probably always get hired over the 35 year old. I would pick him too. He's fresh out of college, he'll bring more ideas to the table. The 35 year old just has experience and just because you sat in a cubicle for 15 years doesn't mean you achieved anything.

If your talking engineering or anything physical (blue collar). Than the 35 year old with experience. He knows what he's doing and the 22 year old won't. Like I said though it depends on the job. Some jobs value experience over education and vice versa.

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#37 Shottayouth13-
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Experience is invaluable and its sure as hell greater than a piece of paper
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#38 scorch-62
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That depends. Am I just starting the business? Or has it already been established and a position happens to be open?
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I'd hire Jeff, so B
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#40 racing1750
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Eh, the guy with experience?