Where would you place The Force Awakens in the Star Wars pantheon? (SPOILERS of course)

Where do you think it stands with the other SW movies?

I'm old enough to have seen all the SW movies at the theatres upon release, the original Star Wars as a kid of 15 in 1977.

Here's my rankings:

1. The Empire Strikes Back

2. Return of the Jedi

3. THE FORCE AWAKENS

4. A New Hope

Meh to the rest.

By the way Han Solo's death truly bummed me out, unfortunately it was all too similar procession to Obi-Wan's death. They did play things a little close to A New Hope but the newer movie is better.

5>4>shit>7>6>3>2>1

Probably:

1. Empire Strikes Back
2. A New Hope
3. Return of the Jedi
4. Revenge of the Sith
5. Force Awakens
6. The Phantom Menace
7. Attack of the Clones

1. New Hope

2, Return of the Jedi

3. Empire Strikes Back

4. Force Awakens

5. Revenge of the Sith

6. Phantom Menace

7. Attack of the Clones

1. The Empire Strikes Back

2. A New Hope

3. The Force Awakens

4. Return of the Jedi

5, 6, and 7. The Plinkett Reviews of the prequels

8. Clinical depression, suicidal ideation and alcoholism turning your entire life into long term suffering and fantasies about your own death.

9. The worst atrocities committed during war

10. The realization that life truly is meaningless and that we're feeling beings in an unfeeling universe.

11. The Prequels

1. Revenge of the Sith

2. Attack of the Clones

3. Empire Strikes Back

4. New Hope

5. Force Awakens

6, Return of the Jedi

7. Phantom Menace

Now show me your deliciously angry tears =P

I dont think im into any of it too much. I guess im more of a Trekkie.

• Episode III
• Episode II
• Episode I
• Episode VII

Wasnt too big on Episode VII, was kinda boring and didnt really make all that much sense too me. I understood what was going on, but i didnt really care what was going on.

@mesome713:

It's not surprising you didn't care...you didn't even have episodes 4 - 6 listed, and this was basically a continuation.

@AFBrat77: Yeah, ive never seen the originals. I didnt care for the prequels, i thought they were average, but nothing special so i never watched the older ones.

@mesome713:

That's too bad, the prequels were a poor representation of Star Wars. Episodes 4 -6 were the real deal.

I can understand that you are not going to appreciate the new movie nearly as much if you don't know Han Solo, Princess er General Leia or Luke Skywalker.

@AFBrat77: Yeah, i still need to watch the originals. I remember when i was watching Episode I-III and not feeling it my friends would all say just watch the originals. The Episode VI looks good, but i had to ask my brother so much stuff after the movie. I thought that this was what the movie wanted me too do, talk about it, but my brother explained a bunch for me the best he could.

I still think they are good movies though, just not that good. But that could be my taste, i remember everyone liking Birdman like crazy, but all i could talk about was John Wick. Its not that i thought Birdman was a bad movie, but it was no John Wick for me.

@mesome713: If you're a Trekkie it's not surprising that you find SW storytelling to be a bit lacklustre...that won't change by watching the original trilogy (even though they are still good movies). That being said, between games, novels and other Extended Universe stuff, Star Wars has a lot of great, very enjoyable lore and a quite exciting universe...I always feel like the movies are a poor representation of SW's potential.

@korvus: I would agree with that, i had and continue to have a lot of fun discussing Star Wars stuff with my brother and friends.

1. Empire Strikes Back

2. A New Hope

3. The Force Awakens= Revenge of the Sith

4. Return of the Jedi

5. Attack of the Clones

6. The Phantom Menace

Nowhere. It isn't Star Wars.

4, 5, 6, 7, 3, 1, 2

7 > 3 > 6 > 4 > 2 > 5 >>>>>> 1

For some reason, Empire just never clicked with me. It's good, but it's not the masterpiece everyone says that it is, quite honestly.

@ShadowsDemon:

We will have to disagree with Empire, I think it's definitely the best.

I notice a lot of people give Sith high marks ....I suppose I'll have to watch it again

@AFBrat77: The first third of Sith is easily of the best in the Star Wars canon. The Ewoks aren't the best, but at least they add a bit to Star Wars' biodiversity. You don't see too many aliens in the 4th and 5th films.

Comfortably near the bottom.

I am shocked how Star Wars fans are ok with this movie. Heck more than ok, they are ecstatic. This was a rehash and the big climax was a rehash.

@coonana:

To me the movie was a lot of light fun.....just the way I like my Star Wars, and I've been there since the beginning. I'll probably see it 3 times overall.

I think it's better (albeit less original) than A New Hope. But I would be disappointed if the next movie tries to do similar with Empire Strikes Back. But I'm familiar with the next director and seriously doubt he would do that.

In terms of my enjoyment of them:

1. Star Wars
2. Empire Strikes Back
3. Revenge of the Sith
4. The Force Awakens
5. Return of the Jedi
6. Attack of the Clones
7. The Phantom Menace

In terms of their overall quality as movies:

1. Empire Strikes Back
2. Star Wars
3. The Force Awakens
4. Return of the Jedi
5. Revenge of the Sith
6. Attack of the Clones
7. The Phantom Menace

The Force Awakens should improve once Episode VIII is released and more of those damn plot threads are tied up. It annoys me that despite creating a trilogy from the start, they cannot make a complete film anymore. Star Wars was a complete film. Empire was a complete film. Jedi was a complete film. Yet all were interconnected with an overarching storyline and no cliffhangers.

THAT ALL SAID... I'm looking forward to seeing where the franchise goes from here and really enjoyed the character-level perspective the movie had. I love Rey and Finn.

Here's the thing: this is in the hands of Disney now. Guaranteed that this is gonna get handled exactly like those Marvel movies. And one of the defining traits of those Marvel movies is that the directors and writers are largely just hired to do what they're told.

I'm not saying that there's no room for personal vision, but generally speaking these are NOT movies for artists and writers to show their personal vision. The writers and directors are mostly there to do what they're told. Why else do you think that arguably the best Marvel movie (Captain America 2) was directed by two guys who pretty much had done TV work up to that point? Why were they given the reigns to a 170 million dollar movie when they've never directed a feature length theatrical film before, and certainly have never directed a 100+ million dollar blockbuster?

Guaranteed that the Star Wars franchise from this point forward is going to fit right into that mold. Disney WANTS safe, that's why they hired JJ Abrams. They didn't spend over 4 BILLION dollars on this franchise just to piss it away by letting "artists" ruin it with their personal vision. That's in large part what led to Star Wars getting "ruined" in the first place. Make no mistake, they're gonna run this thing like a machine, EXACTLY how they do with the Marvel movies. There is zero room here for rocking the boat or letting an "artist" tarnish the franchise with their "personal vision". I'm sure Rian Johnson will do a fine job, but I'm also sure that he's gonna do exactly what Disney tells him to do. I'm confident that he deliver "competent" and "safe", but THAT'S why he's getting hired.

That's of course not to say that the movies won't be entertaining. I'm sure they will be, just like the Marvel movies are entertaining. But "Rian Johnson wouldn't do that?" He's gonna do what he's told. These are movies by-committee with executives calling the shots. These movies are not in the vein of something like Brick or Looper. And given the Marvel movies' tendency to be extremely formulaic, I'm not expecting anything else from Star Wars. If appealing to nostalgia is the corporate mandate in order to remove the stink of the prequels, that's EXACTLY what'll keep happening.

@MrGeezer: You can completely see the Marvel treatment here. Also the way they rebooted Jurassic World is smeared all over this film. Marvel movies work great under that formula. You can have characters in the Marvel Cinematic Universe that represent angry fanboys and have it still work for the overall narrative. Having Kylo Ren represent diehard purists of the OG trilogy just made this story all the more laughable in the worst of ways.

1. The Empire Strikes Back
2. Return of the Jedi
3. A New Hope
4. The Force Awakens
5. Revenge of the Sith
6. Attack of the Clones
7. The Phantom Menace

@coonana: Jurassic World wasn't even a reboot, which makes it even worse =P

@MrGeezer: They killed Han Solo. That's pretty un-safe.

it was pretty ok. a little fan-fictiony for my taste.

also. han died for our sins.

you can't possibly think a guy like that can be allowed to live in todays world.

if you look at him seducing leia in empire it is a straight up rape by 2015 standards.

Its a rehash but its a a great rehash. Its way better paced than a New Hope. I was born in 1990, so I'm not as attached to the OT as older fans are, but I think Force Awakens is up there with a New Hope. New Hope wasn't a very deep movie either.

1. EP 5
2. The Clone Wars (yea the tv show is that good)
3. EP 6
4. EP 3
5. EP 7
6. EP 4
7. EP 2
8. EP 1 aka garbage

1- The Empire Strikes Back

2- A New Hope

3- The Revenge of The Sith

4- The Force Awakens

5- Return of The Jedi

6- The Phantom Menace & The Attack of The Clones

TFA went recklessly from scene to scene not caring about atmosphere or place.

To be clear, it was of sorts a soft reboot.

@coonana:

....and yet it still turned out to be a fun movie and a welcome Star Wars edition. Hopefully Rian Johnsons next entry will have more originality, but overall this was a good start to this trilogy.

@coonana: I don't consider something a reboot when the movie mentions what happened in the previous ones...it's just a rehash...

@AFBrat77:Respectfully disagree with that notion. They denied previous good characters good send offs. They took out the depth of the franchise so make sure the cover reminds us all of the originals.

@korvus:I understand, but it is relaunching that dormant franchise and retreading the original movie. It is technically a sequel.

Best Star Wars movie, although maybe not by far.

1. Force Awakens

2. Return of the Jedi, Empire Strike Back (equally good)

4. A New Hope

5. Revenge of the Sith (lol)

6. Phantom Menace (lol)

7. Attack of the Clones (lol)