Seriously, I hate those people ! I noticed that most of them are either trying to sound smart -only to look stupid- or journalists who only care about view count. Is there a proper word for these people beside the usual moron, idiot ..etc
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You call them "Al Sharpton". Look up the Tawana Brawley case - had both imaginary sexism and racism in it.
You're blind if you can't see tonnes of people abusing it. Ofcourse it's a real problem, a very real problem, but some people still abuse the connotation sometimes.Could you give an example? Racism is a real problem many people face.Â
Vac87
Most obvious examples are probably in the yellow press, people being called racist for something like saying they don't have any black friends.Â
What you are saying is very non-specific. I could easily be calling you an idiot for not seeing racism/sexism in something.
... but I won't because I don't know what you are talking about exactly but I do know that everyone has different thresholds, calling those people insensitive *insert insult here*, just makes end up making you look very cold either way.
[QUOTE="Vac87"]Well, I've been told that mentioning slavery to a black GS member makes me a racist. Do you have the direct quote? I doubt that just mentioning slavery would warrant you being called a racist.Could you give an example? Racism is a real problem many people face.
thegerg
hmmm... liberal douchebag?.... annoying liberal?..... the ones who create sexism problems out of nothing are called "feminists." Strange I know.
What the duck? That's Broughton Street in your sig....I don't hate anyone but I dislike that they automatically feel that someone or something is against them. I do try to look at it from their viewpoint, and if it doesn't make sense, to me, I dismiss their view.
lowkey254
What, are you new to the world or something? Anyways I like to call them charlatans. What's worse is these people actually do a lot of harm to the issues they are supposedly fighting for.What you are saying is very non-specific. I could easily be calling you an idiot for not seeing racism/sexism in something.
... but I won't because I don't know what you are talking about exactly but I do know that everyone has different thresholds, calling those people insensitive *insert insult here*, just makes end up making you look very cold either way.
greenskittles
Simple, you can call them Human Beings. . . . just like us. Unjustified prejedice is nothing new and nothing scarce.Seriously, I hate those people ! I noticed that most of them are either trying to sound smart -only to look stupid- or journalists who only care about view count. Is there a proper word for these people beside the usual moron, idiot ..etc
SultaN-s
[QUOTE="Vac87"]Well, I've been told that mentioning slavery to a black GS member makes me a racist.Could you give an example? Racism is a real problem many people face.Â
thegerg
ah yes, the common belief that slavery was exclusive to black people. Â That will get you labeled a racist right away.
So will saying that Israel is a bad place/government
[QUOTE="greenskittles"]What, are you new to the world or something? Anyways I like to call them charlatans. What's worse is these people actually do a lot of harm to the issues they are supposedly fighting for.What you are saying is very non-specific. I could easily be calling you an idiot for not seeing racism/sexism in something.
... but I won't because I don't know what you are talking about exactly but I do know that everyone has different thresholds, calling those people insensitive *insert insult here*, just makes end up making you look very cold either way.
Renevent42
I ... honestly don't know how to reply to this hollow question :|
but ... I'm sure you'll find some snarky justification for your condescending question.
Last month, when Sony announced the PS4, the whole video game section of the internet was talking about the console and predicting it's future. But not Kotaku. No, they were b*tching about why there was no women in the event and accused Sony of being sexist !! I mean WTF people ?! The Playstation has just ascended and they totally ruined the fun for no real reason.
And last night, I was reading reviews for the movie Cloud Atlas and saw there, too, people bringing up anti-racism comments where no racism can be found.
Racism and sexism are serious problems but they do NOT occur everywhere. Some people can turn fun moments into embarrassing and awkward situations.
Last month, when Sony announced the PS4, the whole video game section of the internet was talking about the console and predicting it's future. But not Kotaku. No, they were b*tching about why there was no women in the event and accused Sony of being sexist !! I mean WTF people ?! The Playstation has just ascended and they totally ruined the fun for no real reason.
And last night, I was reading reviews for the movie Cloud Atlas and saw there, too, people bringing up anti-racism comments where no racism can be found.
Racism and sexism are serious problems but they do NOT occur everywhere. Some people can turn fun moments into embarrassing and awkward situations.SultaN-s
Right ... but its 2013. If I were to spin your perspective here a little -- wouldn't you prefer that things were being called out for discrimination? It's certainly better than just a couple of years ago when they weren't and when discrimination was the norm.
I know what world I'd prefer to live in. It's not ideal, but I'd rather have white knights, fighting for a cause with little basis, than racist/sexist douchebags fighting for anything.
Right ... but its 2013. If I were to spin your perspective here a little -- wouldn't you prefer that things were being called out for discrimination? It's certainly better than just a couple of years ago when they weren't and when discrimination was the norm.I know what world I'd prefer to live in. It's not ideal, but I'd rather have white knights, fighting for a cause with little basis, than racist/sexist douchebags fighting for anything.greenskittles
And where, may I ask, are the knights of other races in your response?
For Pete's sake it's 2013! This kind of discrimination, this open exclusion of other races and use of antiquated and offensive figures of speech, is just not acceptable!
Do you have the direct quote? I doubt that just mentioning slavery would warrant you being called a racist. "you made a slavery comment towards the black etnicity, which is very much racist."[QUOTE="lowkey254"]
[QUOTE="thegerg"] Well, I've been told that mentioning slavery to a black GS member makes me a racist. thegerg
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Notice he didn't say "telling a black person that you support black slavery is very much racist", or "telling a black person that he should be a slave is racist is very much racist." This fool thinks simply making a "slavery comment towards the black etnicity" is "very much racist."
What was the comment you made anyway?[QUOTE="greenskittles"]Right ... but its 2013. If I were to spin your perspective here a little -- wouldn't you prefer that things were being called out for discrimination? It's certainly better than just a couple of years ago when they weren't and when discrimination was the norm.
I know what world I'd prefer to live in. It's not ideal, but I'd rather have white knights, fighting for a cause with little basis, than racist/sexist douchebags fighting for anything.m0zart
And where, may I ask, are the knights of other races in your response?
For Pete's sake it's 2013! This kind of discrimination, this open exclusion of other races and use of antiquated and offensive figures of speech, is just not acceptable!
Forgive my confusion ... but I don't understand what you are saying or asking, nor why you are with that post. It doesn't make much sense.
[QUOTE="m0zart"]
[QUOTE="greenskittles"]Right ... but its 2013. If I were to spin your perspective here a little -- wouldn't you prefer that things were being called out for discrimination? It's certainly better than just a couple of years ago when they weren't and when discrimination was the norm.
I know what world I'd prefer to live in. It's not ideal, but I'd rather have white knights, fighting for a cause with little basis, than racist/sexist douchebags fighting for anything.greenskittles
And where, may I ask, are the knights of other races in your response?
For Pete's sake it's 2013! This kind of discrimination, this open exclusion of other races and use of antiquated and offensive figures of speech, is just not acceptable!
Forgive my confusion ... but I don't understand what you are saying or asking, nor why you are with that post. It doesn't make much sense.
Your confusion is very telling! You are certainly willing to use terms that carry some racist connotation, and I felt like fighting the cause against that sort of outdated and potentially offensive rhetoric, regardless of how little basis there might be to it.
It's not ideal, but I'd rather have knights of many races and colors fighting these issues than revert to a few years ago when terms like "white knight" weren't treated as the entrenched cacaphonies of racist communication that they might have some very limited basis of being.
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[QUOTE="m0zart"]
And where, may I ask, are the knights of other races in your response?
For Pete's sake it's 2013! This kind of discrimination, this open exclusion of other races and use of antiquated and offensive figures of speech, is just not acceptable!
m0zart
Forgive my confusion ... but I don't understand what you are saying or asking, nor why you are with that post. It doesn't make much sense.
Your confusion is very telling! You are certainly willing to use terms that carry some racist connotation, and I felt like fighting the cause against that sort of outdated and potentially offensive rhetoric, regardless of how little basis there might be to it.
It's not ideal, but I'd rather have knights of many races and colors fighting these issues than revert to a few years ago when terms like "white knight" weren't treated as the entrenched cacaphonies of racist communication that they might have some very limited basis of being.
I really cant tell what you are trying to say here. Hopefully you can quit being condescending and admit that in a two sentence reply, it is difficult to ascertain the tone you are going for. Emoticon use would be ideal here. If your point is to demonstrate that the PC police has gone too far, by showing how easy it is to be deemed a racist or sexist ... Thats fine. I have no problems apologising for anything in life that offends anyone, but i, like many, have a line that i don't cross. People are going to be offended by many things i am not going to be. I just don't go around making fun of those people by calling those people names. It seems really sad if you, m0zart are with TC and want to label more sensitive people negatively, just because you don't think some things in life are that big a deal.[QUOTE="m0zart"][QUOTE="greenskittles"]
Forgive my confusion ... but I don't understand what you are saying or asking, nor why you are with that post. It doesn't make much sense.
greenskittles
Your confusion is very telling! You are certainly willing to use terms that carry some racist connotation, and I felt like fighting the cause against that sort of outdated and potentially offensive rhetoric, regardless of how little basis there might be to it.
It's not ideal, but I'd rather have knights of many races and colors fighting these issues than revert to a few years ago when terms like "white knight" weren't treated as the entrenched cacaphonies of racist communication that they might have some very limited basis of being.
I really cant tell what you are trying to say here. Hopefully you can quit being condescending and admit that in a two sentence reply, it is difficult to ascertain the tone you are going for. Emoticon use would be ideal here. If your point is to demonstrate that the PC police has gone too far, by showing how easy it is to be deemed a racist or sexist ... Thats fine. I have no problems apologising for anything in life that offends anyone, but i, like many, have a line that i don't cross. People are going to be offended by many things i am not going to be. I just don't go around making fun of those people by calling those people names. It seems really sad if you, m0zart are with TC and want to label more sensitive people negatively, just because you don't think some things in life are that big a deal.I am glad it's difficult for you to get, and I am glad you consider it condescending, because I am using the precise method you were touting as the superior route in your own original posts, the very posts to which I replied. An emoticon would make it clear I was joking, but why do that when you've already put your stamp of approval on the method?
If you don't like the way it went, then you should probably turn introspective and figure out WHY you don't, and why the approach you tout therefore might not be the best one.
I live in a city that borders Detroit. It happens all the time there, but its starting to get old. DarthmattTroy, Birmingham, and Royal Oak are all nice suburbs. Even Rochester aint bad./
[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]I live in a city that borders Detroit. It happens all the time there, but its starting to get old. sonicareTroy, Birmingham, and Royal Oak are all nice suburbs. Even Rochester aint bad./Yep, but its like south of 8-mile they hand out the race card to keep in the wallet. Just in case.
M0zart- I am glad it's difficult for you to get, and I am glad you consider it condescending, because I am using the precise method you were touting as the superior route in your own original posts, the very posts to which I replied. An emoticon would make it clear I was joking, but why do that when you've already put your stamp of approval on the method? If you don't like the way it went, then you should probably turn introspective and figure out WHY you don't, and why the approach you tout therefore might not be the best one.
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Why would u want your message difficult to understand? Why dont u just say what you mean and quit dancing around it?
It is better to be mindful than not be mindful in society. Ideally it would be about finding a balance better balance, but i cant say we have reached that point yet, we are still in the negative spectrum.
Here is a direct question for you m0zart, can you honestly say, in society .... We arent thoughtful enough? Since you have not offerred an example, im going to just be speaking generally about planet earth and its people in this questions instance.
M0zart- I am glad it's difficult for you to get, and I am glad you consider it condescending, because I am using the precise method you were touting as the superior route in your own original posts, the very posts to which I replied. An emoticon would make it clear I was joking, but why do that when you've already put your stamp of approval on the method? If you don't like the way it went, then you should probably turn introspective and figure out WHY you don't, and why the approach you tout therefore might not be the best one.
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Why would u want your message difficult to understand? Why dont u just say what you mean and quit dancing around it?
It is better to be mindful than not be mindful in society. Ideally it would be about finding a balance better balance, but i cant say we have reached that point yet, we are still in the negative spectrum.
Here is a direct question for you m0zart, can you honestly say, in society .... We arent thoughtful enough? Since you have not offerred an example, im going to just be speaking generally about planet earth and its people in this questions instance.
greenskittles
I don't think it's that difficult to understand to anyone but you. At least so far, I've seen no evidence of that. I am glad it is difficult for YOU to understand because it was a post built on YOUR premises, the ones you stated were legitimate and acceptable. It means you should probalby ask yourself some questions for a change.
Based on your own statements, you were NOT THOUGHTFUL ENOUGH to realize that the term "white knight" can be easily construed as a racist term. Heck, I don't even need to rely on the tenuous connection to using "white" as an adjective, implying that the color white is the clean pigment while other knightly shades are not as clean, even though your own qualifications would allow such as a connection to be enough to be disruptive in the name of "thoughtfulness". No, I can easily rely on the less tenuous fact that it was a term used by the KKK to describe themselves, and often accompanied their own "battle" cries.
Yeah I am being a turd for bringing it up, but that makes me pretty heroic by your own standards. Again, if you don't like the result, examine the standards. In other words, be more thoughtful. Your own admitted willingness to accept any activism in the name of a cause without examining the substance behind its specific claims is not a substitute for being thoughtful.
Politically Correct.What do you call people who create racism/sexism problems out of nothing ?
SultaN-s
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[QUOTE="greenskittles"]
M0zart- I am glad it's difficult for you to get, and I am glad you consider it condescending, because I am using the precise method you were touting as the superior route in your own original posts, the very posts to which I replied. An emoticon would make it clear I was joking, but why do that when you've already put your stamp of approval on the method? If you don't like the way it went, then you should probably turn introspective and figure out WHY you don't, and why the approach you tout therefore might not be the best one.
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Why would u want your message difficult to understand? Why dont u just say what you mean and quit dancing around it?
It is better to be mindful than not be mindful in society. Ideally it would be about finding a balance better balance, but i cant say we have reached that point yet, we are still in the negative spectrum.
Here is a direct question for you m0zart, can you honestly say, in society .... We arent thoughtful enough? Since you have not offerred an example, im going to just be speaking generally about planet earth and its people in this questions instance.
m0zart
I don't think it's that difficult to understand to anyone but you. At least so far, I've seen no evidence of that. I am glad it is difficult for YOU to understand because it was a post built on YOUR premises, the ones you stated were legitimate and acceptable. It means you should probalby ask yourself some questions for a change.
Based on your own statements, you were NOT THOUGHTFUL ENOUGH to realize that the term "white knight" can be easily construed as a racist term. Heck, I don't even need to rely on the tenuous connection to using "white" as an adjective, implying that the color white is the clean pigment while other knightly shades are not as clean, even though your own qualifications would allow such as a connection to be enough to be disruptive in the name of "thoughtfulness". No, I can easily rely on the less tenuous fact that it was a term used by the KKK to describe themselves, and often accompanied their own "battle" cries.
Yeah I am being a turd for bringing it up, but that makes me pretty heroic by your own standards. Again, if you don't like the result, examine the standards. In other words, be more thoughtful. Your own admitted willingness to accept any activism in the name of a cause without examining the substance behind its specific claims is not a substitute for being thoughtful.
Heroic? Hmm, never did I say, doing so was heroic ... that's a bit of an exageration.
I'm not saying what I say all the time, does not offend, I've stated that already, and will apologize for any ignorance. But I'd rather be called out for these things, than let it continue as the norm, which you know what? A lot of things in life that are wrong are still considered normal which shouldn't.Â
Which simply brings me to the question I already asked but I'll rephrase it. Do you, honestly think equality exist?
If your answer is yes ... then I'm officially done here. If your answer is no, than maybe YOU need to rexamine your priorities, because fighting for the belief that we are too sensitive to these issues of discrimination is not exactly productive use of your time, and ... mainly it just makes you look bad.
Heroic? Hmm, never did I say, doing so was heroic ... that's a bit of an exageration.
I'm not saying what I say all the time, does not offend, I've stated that already, and will apologize for any ignorance. But I'd rather be called out for these things, than let it continue as the norm, which you know what? A lot of things in life that are wrong are still considered normal which shouldn't.
Which simply brings me to the question I already asked but I'll rephrase it. Do you, honestly think equality exist?
If your answer is yes ... then I'm officially done here. If your answer is no, than maybe YOU need to rexamine your priorities, because fighting for the belief that we are too sensitive to these issues of discrimination is not exactly productive use of your time, and ... mainly it just makes you look bad.
greenskittles
Exists in what sense? Should all people be treated equally in the sight of the law? Yes. Are all people actually equal? I guess that depends on what aspect of equality you are referring to. Certainly there is much to do to ensure that all people are treated equally under the law.
I disagree with you about your assertion there at the end in any case, very strongly in fact. I think seeing racism and discrimination in anything and everything and acting as an activist for such things whenever you can regardless of the merits of the case, only serves to weaken the various movements dealing with real problems. It wastes time, resources, energy, and credibility; in other words, it makes them look "bad". It makes it very easy for those who care nothing for the overall agenda to criticize that agenda, giving them real amunition to do so.
Part of my little staging there was intended to help you see that. I guess I failed. If you want to waste your time on such nonsense and give folks who perpetrate such crap a green light, fair enough, but it won't just be your loss.
[QUOTE="greenskittles"]
Heroic? Hmm, never did I say, doing so was heroic ... that's a bit of an exageration.
I'm not saying what I say all the time, does not offend, I've stated that already, and will apologize for any ignorance. But I'd rather be called out for these things, than let it continue as the norm, which you know what? A lot of things in life that are wrong are still considered normal which shouldn't.
Which simply brings me to the question I already asked but I'll rephrase it. Do you, honestly think equality exist?
If your answer is yes ... then I'm officially done here. If your answer is no, than maybe YOU need to rexamine your priorities, because fighting for the belief that we are too sensitive to these issues of discrimination is not exactly productive use of your time, and ... mainly it just makes you look bad.
m0zart
Exists in what sense? Should all people be treated equally in the sight of the law? Yes. Are all people actually equal? I guess that depends on what aspect of equality you are referring to. Certainly there is much to do to ensure that all people are treated equally under the law.
I disagree with you about your assertion there at the end in any case, very strongly in fact. I think seeing racism and discrimination in anything and everything and acting as an activist for such things whenever you can regardless of the merits of the case, only serves to weaken the various movements dealing with real problems. It wastes time, resources, energy, and credibility; in other words, it makes them look "bad". It makes it very easy for those who care nothing for the overall agenda to criticize that agenda, giving them real amunition to do so.
Part of my little staging there was intended to help you see that. I guess I failed. If you want to waste your time on such nonsense and give folks who perpetrate such crap a green light, fair enough, but it won't just be your loss.
I agree that, there are those that do it, might being counter-productive but you haven't offered a real example to highlight your point, I've been speaking generally, and it seems that those who are so staunch in their beliefs that 'something isn't a big deal' are usually populated by a combination of either or wholly being straight, white, men.
That is my problem. So for me, I tend not to look at those who are being sensitive, but those who are being insensitive. That is the larger issue at hand, creating labels for the sensitive, is not what we should be focusing on.
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