What do people see in John McCain?

I swear it must be over my head or something, because what I see is a George Bush wannabe.

I seriously don't understand how anyone in their right mind could vote for John McCain.

The man wants no change whatsoever. Basically just another 4 years of where were heading.

It makes no sense to me how anyone can look a the USA as it is today and say that the country is better off than it's ever been.

What do you guys think?

he is the most experienced canidate out there. And Obama is the least experiencedferrari2001

he is the most experienced canidate out there. And Obama is the least experiencedferrari2001

it seems McCain has flipped a few of his political views to fit in with the modern "christian right" conservtives which he isn't really. McCain is an old school conservative from before the days of the "christian right". He's also known for standing up for what he believes in over his party having gone against the republican party on a few issues (most recently torture).

Those that know McCain before his recent run see him as a moderate conservative that's willing to work with both parties. It's hard saying exactly what he's currently doing. He could be making empty statements to gain conservative votes which is something Bush tends to do, except that Bush is basically a puppet, and hopefully McCain isn't.

I give John McCain all the respect in the world for his service to the US. I don't however support him in his run for President. I'm a Dem, and what we need is someone fresh, not the more of the same mindset the Republicans have. Change we can believe in, Obama 08.SuperMaWiiOH

it seems McCain has flipped a few of his political views to fit in with the modern "christian right" conservtives which he isn't really. McCain is an old school conservative from before the days of the "christian right". He's also known for standing up for what he believes in over his party having gone against the republican party on a few issues (most recently torture).

Those that know McCain before his recent run see him as a moderate conservative that's willing to work with both parties. It's hard saying exactly what he's currently doing. He could be making empty statements to gain conservative votes which is something Bush tends to do, except that Bush is basically a puppet, and hopefully McCain isn't.

jrhawk42

I don't think it's that he's so good, it's just that Hill Clinton's a **** and Obama's basically the black mans HitlerJohnBasedow

I don't think it's that he's so good, it's just that Hill Clinton's a **** and Obama's basically the black mans HitlerJohnBasedow

Black mans Hilter?

I don't think it's that he's so good, it's just that Hill Clinton's a **** and Obama's basically the black mans HitlerJohnBasedow

[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]he is the most experienced canidate out there. And Obama is the least experiencedLobster_Ear

it seems McCain has flipped a few of his political views to fit in with the modern "christian right" conservtives which he isn't really. McCain is an old school conservative from before the days of the "christian right". He's also known for standing up for what he believes in over his party having gone against the republican party on a few issues (most recently torture).

Those that know McCain before his recent run see him as a moderate conservative that's willing to work with both parties. It's hard saying exactly what he's currently doing. He could be making empty statements to gain conservative votes which is something Bush tends to do, except that Bush is basically a puppet, and hopefully McCain isn't.

jrhawk42

So what you're saying is that at most he's dishonest, and at worst he's Bush? I don't really think either of those sound too appealing.

I don't think it's that he's so good, it's just that Hill Clinton's a **** and Obama's basically the black mans HitlerJohnBasedow

Where the hell did you get the "Black man's hitler thing? Just because he's charismatic? God, hitler comparisons are getting thrown around a lot now.

[QUOTE="Lobster_Ear"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"]he is the most experienced canidate out there. And Obama is the least experiencedDivergeUnify

[QUOTE="JohnBasedow"]I don't think it's that he's so good, it's just that Hill Clinton's a **** and Obama's basically the black mans Hitlerdreamdude

Black mans Hilter?

I really don't know. My dad was lechuring me about how he will save America, and how the youth is retarded for supporting Obama. It was a painful hour indeed. That hour of my life has now made me discouraged about voting. CommanderShiro

Excellent. SInce you are already inclined not to vote, DON'T TOUCH THAT DIAL! Don't try to get over it. Voting only enslaves you; it will never bring you freedom. And it is an initiation of force against other people. It's immoral. Just Say NO!

[QUOTE="JohnBasedow"]I don't think it's that he's so good, it's just that Hill Clinton's a **** and Obama's basically the black mans HitlerLobster_Ear

[QUOTE="dreamdude"]

[QUOTE="JohnBasedow"]I don't think it's that he's so good, it's just that Hill Clinton's a **** and Obama's basically the black mans HitlerJohnBasedow

Black mans Hilter?

[QUOTE="Lobster_Ear"][QUOTE="JohnBasedow"]I don't think it's that he's so good, it's just that Hill Clinton's a **** and Obama's basically the black mans HitlerJohnBasedow

Yeah, I really dislike Bush, but that doesn't make him comparable to Hitler.

[QUOTE="dreamdude"]

[QUOTE="JohnBasedow"]I don't think it's that he's so good, it's just that Hill Clinton's a **** and Obama's basically the black mans HitlerJohnBasedow

Black mans Hilter?

[QUOTE="JohnBasedow"][QUOTE="Lobster_Ear"][QUOTE="JohnBasedow"]I don't think it's that he's so good, it's just that Hill Clinton's a **** and Obama's basically the black mans Hitlerdarkmoney52

Yeah, I really dislike Bush, but that doesn't make him comparable to Hitler.

[QUOTE="JohnBasedow"][QUOTE="dreamdude"]

[QUOTE="JohnBasedow"]I don't think it's that he's so good, it's just that Hill Clinton's a **** and Obama's basically the black mans Hitlerbman784

Black mans Hilter?

source-

http://www.examiner.com/a-534540~Can_a_past_of_Islam_change_the_path_to_president_for_Obama_.html?cid=dc-article-obama

there's a little taste, you can find more if you're willing to look yourself.

[QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="JohnBasedow"][QUOTE="dreamdude"]

[QUOTE="JohnBasedow"]I don't think it's that he's so good, it's just that Hill Clinton's a **** and Obama's basically the black mans HitlerJohnBasedow

Black mans Hilter?

source-

http://www.examiner.com/a-534540~Can_a_past_of_Islam_change_the_path_to_president_for_Obama_.html?cid=dc-article-obama

there's a little taste, you can find more if you're willing to look yourself.

^^ Those are ridiculous.... Especially the last few... Stupid argument... Let me just disect one of the quotes:

"From The Audacity Of Hope, "We are no longer just a Christian nation," "We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers."

"Muslim nation" is italicized. But what the hell is that supposed to point out? That Islam is bad? He is saying that the United States isn't just a country of one people, but a country of people from several different backgrounds. We have to embrace these backgrounds and not discriminate.

[QUOTE="JohnBasedow"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="JohnBasedow"][QUOTE="dreamdude"]

[QUOTE="JohnBasedow"]I don't think it's that he's so good, it's just that Hill Clinton's a **** and Obama's basically the black mans Hitlerbman784

Black mans Hilter?

source-

http://www.examiner.com/a-534540~Can_a_past_of_Islam_change_the_path_to_president_for_Obama_.html?cid=dc-article-obama

there's a little taste, you can find more if you're willing to look yourself.

I can't be certain he's still a militant muslim, black nationalist ect. but it certainly apears that as a seed he was. Surely you can see if a white candidate had said things about "his people(refering to race)"ect. like Obama did we wouldn't be having this conversation.JohnBasedow

[QUOTE="JohnBasedow"][QUOTE="dreamdude"]

[QUOTE="JohnBasedow"]I don't think it's that he's so good, it's just that Hill Clinton's a **** and Obama's basically the black mans HitlerLobster_Ear

Black mans Hilter?

wow. that's quite possibly the most cliche and ignorant statement I've ever read.

[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]

it seems McCain has flipped a few of his political views to fit in with the modern "christian right" conservtives which he isn't really. McCain is an old school conservative from before the days of the "christian right". He's also known for standing up for what he believes in over his party having gone against the republican party on a few issues (most recently torture).

Those that know McCain before his recent run see him as a moderate conservative that's willing to work with both parties. It's hard saying exactly what he's currently doing. He could be making empty statements to gain conservative votes which is something Bush tends to do, except that Bush is basically a puppet, and hopefully McCain isn't.

Lobster_Ear

[QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="JohnBasedow"][QUOTE="dreamdude"]

[QUOTE="JohnBasedow"]I don't think it's that he's so good, it's just that Hill Clinton's a **** and Obama's basically the black mans HitlerJohnBasedow

Black mans Hilter?

there's a little taste, you can find more if you're willing to look yourself.

[QUOTE="JohnBasedow"]I can't be certain he's still a militant muslim, black nationalist ect. but it certainly apears that as a seed he was. Surely you can see if a white candidate had said things about "his people(refering to race)"ect. like Obama did we wouldn't be having this conversation.bman784

ok, here's his current church-

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"In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01," Wright wrote in a church-affiliated magazine. "White America and the western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just 'disappeared' as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns."

In one of his sermons, Wright said, "Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run!...We [in the U.S.] believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God."


"We are a congregation which is unashamedly black and unapologetically Christian," says the Trinity United Church of Christ's website in Chicago. "We are an African people and remain true to our native land, the mother continent, the cradle of civilization."

That's just the beginning. The church has a "non-negotiable commitment to Africa," according to its website, and its pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. subscribes to what is called the Black Value System.


http://blog.americancongressfortruth.com/2008/01/07/barack-obamas-racist-and-anti-semitic-church/JohnBasedow

[QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="JohnBasedow"]I can't be certain he's still a militant muslim, black nationalist ect. but it certainly apears that as a seed he was. Surely you can see if a white candidate had said things about "his people(refering to race)"ect. like Obama did we wouldn't be having this conversation.JohnBasedow

You talking about Fox News? It's more fascist than communist.

[QUOTE="Lobster_Ear"][QUOTE="jrhawk42"]

it seems McCain has flipped a few of his political views to fit in with the modern "christian right" conservtives which he isn't really. McCain is an old school conservative from before the days of the "christian right". He's also known for standing up for what he believes in over his party having gone against the republican party on a few issues (most recently torture).

Those that know McCain before his recent run see him as a moderate conservative that's willing to work with both parties. It's hard saying exactly what he's currently doing. He could be making empty statements to gain conservative votes which is something Bush tends to do, except that Bush is basically a puppet, and hopefully McCain isn't.

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